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“Every val player is a failed cs player”

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#1
beaver_man

Only 23% of players in Shanghai were ex-counterstrike pros:

100T: 1/5
G2: 2/5
LEV: 2/5
FUT: 1/5
Fnatic: 2/5
TH: 1/5
PRX: 3/5
GENG: 1/5
T1: 1/5
EDG: 0/5
FPX: 0/5
DRG: 0/5

Stop this narrative. The only team with majority ex-cs pros is PRX with 3/5

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number1_cNed_fan
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This was valid back in 2021 though

but now its just csjoe frogs coping material cuz their shitty gaem is dying

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FrenchToast
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sacy the gigachad

didn’t even come from an fps title lmao

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number1_cNed_fan [#2]

This was valid back in 2021 though

but now its just csjoe frogs coping material cuz their shitty gaem is dying

It was definitely valid at a time, but it’s annoying hearing people still say this when the game is mainly full of young new talent now

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FrenchToast [#3]

sacy the gigachad

didn’t even come from an fps title lmao

Bro played League 0f Legends (I too cannot quit)

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Sikul
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FrenchToast [#3]

sacy the gigachad

didn’t even come from an fps title lmao

You should see Jessievash

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thenutoriousPRO
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this is just a lie though
asuna was a csgo pro
not gonna check everything but im sure theres some other mistakes

also including chinese teams seems kinda questionable cuz is there even pro cs in china?

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KyLZi
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thenutoriousPRO [#7]

this is just a lie though
asuna was a csgo pro
not gonna check everything but im sure theres some other mistakes

also including chinese teams seems kinda questionable cuz is there even pro cs in china?

CN does have CS pros.

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StyrofoamOne
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thenutoriousPRO [#7]

this is just a lie though
asuna was a csgo pro
not gonna check everything but im sure theres some other mistakes

also including chinese teams seems kinda questionable cuz is there even pro cs in china?

yes, tyloo was a huge team back in the day, big names like captainMO and DD come from tyloo (cs), xccurate also played for tyloo back in the day with bntet

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beaver_man
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thenutoriousPRO [#7]

this is just a lie though
asuna was a csgo pro
not gonna check everything but im sure theres some other mistakes

also including chinese teams seems kinda questionable cuz is there even pro cs in china?

Even with Chinese teams removed it is still like 29%

All the info is from liquidpedia. Double check if you want there might be a few mistakes on their site but still the number is way less than 50%

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StyrofoamOne
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nrg: fns, som, victor (formally 'food') , crashies, ethan and chet (formerly ImAPet). Full ex-cs pro team

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bladee666
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you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

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Psion
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

"f u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol" this is not true....

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bladee666
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Psion [#13]

"f u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol" this is not true....

hahaha do you really believe so
like really? why would a val pro prefer val? its movement??? its gunplay??????? its bloated util???? wake up bro this game is trash and you hate yourself if you watch val esports

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DeyahAlAjarma
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StyrofoamOne [#11]

nrg: fns, som, victor (formally 'food') , crashies, ethan and chet (formerly ImAPet). Full ex-cs pro team

no wonder theyre shit

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Hexa_22
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

Zula 💀

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Sir_Johnny123
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FrenchToast [#3]

sacy the gigachad

didn’t even come from an fps title lmao

Benjyfishy didn't come from a fps title

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DuD5K1S
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bladee666 [#14]

hahaha do you really believe so
like really? why would a val pro prefer val? its movement??? its gunplay??????? its bloated util???? wake up bro this game is trash and you hate yourself if you watch val esports

Bro is upset someone enjoys playing a video game

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anyth1ng
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

allat + your mom is still in trembolona's house 🫵🏻🤡

#20
Gutwi
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did you just create a whole ass post for my bait

#21
beaver_man
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Gutwi [#20]

did you just create a whole ass post for my bait

Yeah

#22
dort
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

no one gives a fuck

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Psion
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bladee666 [#14]

hahaha do you really believe so
like really? why would a val pro prefer val? its movement??? its gunplay??????? its bloated util???? wake up bro this game is trash and you hate yourself if you watch val esports

bro if you really think all this get off of VLR lmfao
1st off, movement, gunplay, util is all opinionated. i prefer valorant in every one of those.
but there's this thing that isn't opinionated called travel. the amount of travel that you have to do as a CS pro is crazy
not everyone wants to be constantly traveling between places.
nitr0 chose tier 2 val over tier 1 CS so he didn't have to travel and could be with his family

#24
anyth1ng
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Gutwi [#20]

did you just create a whole ass post for my bait

.

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Ryzen_
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StyrofoamOne [#11]

nrg: fns, som, victor (formally 'food') , crashies, ethan and chet (formerly ImAPet). Full ex-cs pro team

Fuck I didn't realise Victor was food from CS.

Pretty much all of original SEN, 100T and Envy were CS players

#26
BrotherMan
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

pedo defender

#27
bladee666
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Psion [#23]

bro if you really think all this get off of VLR lmfao
1st off, movement, gunplay, util is all opinionated. i prefer valorant in every one of those.
but there's this thing that isn't opinionated called travel. the amount of travel that you have to do as a CS pro is crazy
not everyone wants to be constantly traveling between places.
nitr0 chose tier 2 val over tier 1 CS so he didn't have to travel and could be with his family

you do you do
youre prob low rank so ur opinion doesnt count
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xyKtg3fygM 💀 not even tenz prefers val
also nitro is an exception and he was bad in cs by then

#28
Hyopic
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Sir_Johnny123 [#17]

Benjyfishy didn't come from a fps title

wait hes cooking

#29
Psion
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bladee666 [#27]

you do you do
youre prob low rank so ur opinion doesnt count
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xyKtg3fygM 💀 not even tenz prefers val
also nitro is an exception and he was bad in cs by then

i've been immortal since june 2021 lmfao,
you didn't even comment on the travel thing, you just said "nitr0 is an exception"

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bladee666
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Psion [#29]

i've been immortal since june 2021 lmfao,
you didn't even comment on the travel thing, you just said "nitr0 is an exception"

yeah because its an exception
no 18-25y pro talent would ever give a fuck about traveling

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Psion
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bladee666 [#30]

yeah because its an exception
no 18-25y pro talent would ever give a fuck about traveling

"no 18-25y pro talent would ever give a fuck about traveling" some pros in that age range 100% care.....

#32
InjuredWave
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T1 has more former OW pros than CS 😂

#33
Saiki_taha
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Thanks beaver man for putting a smile on my face

#34
Saiki_taha
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

Some people don't deserve a voice

#35
TooCaution_Heartless
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so 5/5 ex failed pros
should win major right?

#36
Zaba
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B-but all this players want to be cs pros 🤓☝️

Stfu csboomers and back to hltv

#37
koromast
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StyrofoamOne [#11]

nrg: fns, som, victor (formally 'food') , crashies, ethan and chet (formerly ImAPet). Full ex-cs pro team

they finished 8th/9th

#38
gg321
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Zaba [#36]

B-but all this players want to be cs pros 🤓☝️

Stfu csboomers and back to hltv

i mean they know their peak is way lower in cs,ofc they wanna be pro in the game they can reach higher in

#39
beaver_man
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gg321 [#38]

i mean they know their peak is way lower in cs,ofc they wanna be pro in the game they can reach higher in

Bro u can’t fathom that most younger people prefer valorant over cs. Especially in the United States, people are bored of cs and think it’s a boomer game 💀

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gg321
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beaver_man [#39]

Bro u can’t fathom that most younger people prefer valorant over cs. Especially in the United States, people are bored of cs and think it’s a boomer game 💀

i can absolutely,i know val is way more popular in the us,it doesnt change what i said tho

#41
TM06Nick
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bladee666 [#30]

yeah because its an exception
no 18-25y pro talent would ever give a fuck about traveling

many valorant pros at this age are already married lol

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Anoymouse
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

WHERE DID UR STARS GO???

#MVGA #MAKEVLRGREATAGAIN

#43
bucketpunk
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

most mentally stable cs player

#44
sm42
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Sir_Johnny123 [#17]

Benjyfishy didn't come from a fps title

is fortnite not an fps? there are some fps aspects to it i feel

#45
Ballsamolee
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sm42 [#44]

is fortnite not an fps? there are some fps aspects to it i feel

it's not a first person shooter. it's a third person shooter.

#46
myfatherr
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bladee666 [#12]

you know the point still makes sense right
most val pros played cs and they couldnt become cs pros so they jumped into val
if u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol

games are similar enough to say a pro in val is a failed cs pro.
the ceiling of a pro in a game is similar to his ceiling in another game. so when you see val pros being smoked by cs t2 pros you can imagine they wouldnt go too far in cs and thats precisely why they're in val

just an example from another genre i just thought about, rich, the best heroes of the storm player, became a pro in league of legends after hots died. he was literally a god in hots, however, in league, despite his stint on t1, he never lived up to the expectations
say what you want, however, these eu cs pros are quite literally the best at playing tac fps because of their genetics or whatever. if you believe otherwise, you're coping. s1mple, donk, zywoo, they'd all dominate valorant, just like they'd all dominate crossfire, just like they'd all dominate zula... sudden attack... any tacfps based on cs

however, i think i know why val frogs cope that much. it must be sad for your hobby to be a thing that people do because they were washed in cs. imagine wasting hours, days of your life, in a game most pros hate and they would rather play its parent but they cant.. so fucking sad

just like magnus carlsen would dominate on checkers. theres genetics in play

source: I made it the fuck up

And no, theres no guarantee they would dominate any other games even if given enough time. Thinking otherwise just pure copium.

#47
TheZestiestRusski
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Fnatic also has majority of ex-cs pros no? (Boaster, derke, leo/ziz)

#48
Wronghand
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I mean, Stewie2k (a tier 3 valorant player) is currently at top 6 of an S-tier CS2 major.

#49
Darkobas01
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Psion [#13]

"f u ask every val pro if they would be cs pros if they could most pros would say yes lol" this is not true....

I mean part of it IS true. Given how val has treated it's star players like Yay, Deamon1, Pancada, etc, CSGO star players are much more stable. That's because of no. franchise system and number of TOs. They have oil money and gambling money keeping the game alive. IDK how sustainable val pro scene really is. Sponsor restrictions, minimum salary, minimum contract lengths when the game publisher itself don't know how to plan the season.

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Wronghand [#48]

I mean, Stewie2k (a tier 3 valorant player) is currently at top 6 of an S-tier CS2 major.

He is a major winner, what you talking about?

#51
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It was true when the game came out first. Not so much now. It is backed by the fact that earliest winning teams in valorant were almost all filled with CS pros. Valorant is also thriving in NA meanwhile their CS scene is almost dead. Almost every wannabe CS pro has shifted and done better internationally in val.

#52
jaKe-y
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Cope

Valo literally a kindergarten for people not talented enough to make it in CS

#53
4rrowlol
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Sir_Johnny123 [#17]

Benjyfishy didn't come from a fps title

still a shooter

#54
JMZxp
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You can say that about OW pros as well

#55
pastone
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thenutoriousPRO [#7]

this is just a lie though
asuna was a csgo pro
not gonna check everything but im sure theres some other mistakes

also including chinese teams seems kinda questionable cuz is there even pro cs in china?

EDG smoogy is ex-cs pros.many CN val pros is ex-cs pros

#56
Yoorake
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If we extend it to val pros are just ex cs and ow pros how big is the percentage?

#57
tHERmal_
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goated

#58
bronzil_enjoyer
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rare beaver m0n W 🗿

#59
thenutoriousPRO
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pastone [#55]

EDG smoogy is ex-cs pros.many CN val pros is ex-cs pros

more proof this list is ass

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Sir_Johnny123
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4rrowlol [#53]

still a shooter

Learn what FPS means

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