2023 Navi
2023 NRG
2024 NRG
2021 envy
2022 Fnatic
2023 drx
2022 Acend
2022 gambit/m3c
2022 sen
2023 tl
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moatz [#3]21 envy was good. 2nd at Berlin to prime GMB and y0y was the best player at the event (while on jett)
Bombed out from champs didn’t qualify for first event though
bronzil_enjoyer [#2]2021 nv wasn't bad
apart from that rare assgamer W 🗿
Bombed out from champs didn’t qualify for first event otherwise they would not be here
TheAceGamer30 [#4]Bombed out from champs didn’t qualify for first event though
i would've put faze clan for the whole of vct history 🗿
Just because Envy bombed out of champs doesn't mean they were a "biggest failure". They very clearly stand out among this list, all the others were never close to winning something, while Envy got second. Also it's not like them not qualifying for the first event is a big deal, they have kaboose and mummay at that time, they weren't the same team as they were at Berlin.
TheAceGamer30 [#4]Bombed out from champs didn’t qualify for first event though
The first event was expected though. They dropped mummay for yay a few weeks before the quals
Nobody really knew how good of an igl fns was at the time. Marved had just joined recently as well and had looked mid on Faze
SEN was too dominant so it was obvious they would get a slot which only left 1 for the rest of the NA teams
As for champs, Acend 2-0d them but they had relatively close maps against the eventual winner.
SquareMars [#11]how the fuck is 2023 sen not on here?
You had Zekken, Tenz, Sacy, pANcada, and an ok igl
that was a literal superteam at the time
calling dephh ok is a crime against humanity
SquareMars [#11]how the fuck is 2023 sen not on here?
You had Zekken, Tenz, Sacy, pANcada, and an ok igl
that was a literal superteam at the time
many people already predicated that the roster gonna fail because of language issue and tenz being duelist being mid.
SquareMars [#11]how the fuck is 2023 sen not on here?
You had Zekken, Tenz, Sacy, pANcada, and an ok igl
that was a literal superteam at the time
it should be tbh. but once everyone saw the roles they knew it was chalked. we literally had sacy on smokes 💀💀💀
kirito5133 [#15]many people already predicated that the roster gonna fail because of language issue and tenz being duelist being mid.
No cus of the igl not cus of tenz
AstroGalaxy [#7]2023 sen as well or at least LCQ
No cus a lot of people knew this team was gonna fail cus of trash igl and language issues , tenz having personal issues
kirito5133 [#15]many people already predicated that the roster gonna fail because of language issue and tenz being duelist being mid.
You had 3 mvps on that team (At the time), and an entire offseason.
???
SquareMars [#20]You had 3 mvps on that team (At the time), and an entire offseason.
???
They didn’t have an off-season lmao they literally got sacy and pancada so late they hardly had practice for lockin
TheAceGamer30 [#22]They didn’t have an off-season lmao they literally got sacy and pancada so late they hardly had practice for lockin
not worth arguing with a g2 fan
TheAceGamer30 [#23]Then why are they tied with Americas with trophies
or why his flair hasn't won shit
Probably gonna mention 2023 NaVi and Team Liquid. NaVi was a huge letdown as they failed to incorporate cned who was still pretty good for someone that missed a year of tier 1 play. On the other hand, TL had a fairly balanced and cracked roster that ended up being executed poorly. I mean- Sayf duelist was already enough, but everyone else on their proper roles as well.
Side Note : I'm down to agree that the team was probably still somewhat weak on paper, but at least from what I saw, a lot of people had high expectations for this roster and it ended up being a huge flop. Especially after the fact that they beat FNATIC and then ended up just being a major letdown in Champs.
EDIT - Oh and we're not gonna forget that god awful performance at Lock-In. That actually might be one of, if not the most, utterly disgusting and disappointing performances put on by a top tier team.
Agx192 [#27]You could excuse sen 2022 imo they had a lot of problems
I would say sen 2023 is more of a failure
2023 sen is the one with them having problems not 2022 . 2022 sen literally just didn’t grind and adapt to the meta and when they did it was far too late
TheAceGamer30 [#29]2023 sen is the one with them having problems not 2022 . 2022 sen literally just didn’t grind and adapt to the meta and when they did it was far too late
I mean sick was having problems and tenz was ill for some part of it and they played with shroud who has no pro experience in val
Agx192 [#30]I mean sick was having problems and tenz was ill for some part of it and they played with shroud who has no pro experience in val
Yeah some of 2022 could be cus of that but I think 2023 are far less tame to 2022
TheAceGamer30 [#22]They didn’t have an off-season lmao they literally got sacy and pancada so late they hardly had practice for lockin
Still a superteam even if they had little prac, everyone knew of this trade months before it was announced
also they were still shit after lock in and in LCQ
TheAceGamer30 [#5]Bombed out from champs didn’t qualify for first event otherwise they would not be here
Bombed out only bc victor had horrible covid so they were pretty much 4v5
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