Tuesday, May 21st
5:00 AM EDT
Patch 8.08
SZ ban Breeze; NTH ban Sunset; SZ pick Lotus; NTH pick Split; SZ ban Bind; NTH ban Ascent; Icebox remains
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Maps/Stats
All Maps
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SCARZ
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Lotus PICK
36:00
NORTHEPTION
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
raze
1.61 1.71 1.55 284 335 256 21 9 12 / 11 3 8 / 2 1 1 +10 +6 +4 79% 100% 67% 197 188 202 29% 25% 31% 6 3 3 2 1 1 +4 +2 +2
omen
1.34 1.48 1.27 234 268 214 16 7 9 / 11 3 8 / 16 5 11 +5 +4 +1 79% 100% 67% 139 164 125 34% 24% 43% 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 +1 -1
sova
1.20 1.12 1.25 248 174 293 15 4 11 / 11 3 8 / 7 4 3 +4 +1 +3 79% 86% 75% 153 115 175 26% 30% 25% 1 0 1 0 0 0 +1 0 +1
killjoy
1.19 1.68 0.90 276 289 269 20 9 11 / 11 2 9 / 2 0 2 +9 +7 +2 68% 71% 67% 167 161 170 29% 38% 26% 3 1 2 2 0 2 +1 +1 0
breach
1.04 1.26 0.92 156 190 137 9 4 5 / 10 4 6 / 10 5 5 -1 0 -1 74% 100% 58% 101 118 91 20% 10% 32% 2 1 1 1 0 1 +1 +1 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
gekko
1.08 1.04 1.14 209 182 255 14 8 6 / 15 9 6 / 5 4 1 -1 -1 0 63% 67% 57% 147 135 166 21% 20% 24% 0 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0 -1
raze
1.01 1.18 0.72 296 321 253 17 12 5 / 17 10 7 / 5 3 2 0 +2 -2 63% 67% 57% 187 189 183 24% 24% 25% 6 5 1 6 3 3 0 +2 -2
breach
0.76 0.81 0.66 136 160 98 9 7 2 / 16 10 6 / 11 9 2 -7 -3 -4 68% 75% 57% 81 89 67 32% 58% 0% 0 0 0 1 1 0 -1 -1 0
cypher
0.75 1.08 0.19 138 191 49 10 9 1 / 15 8 7 / 2 1 1 -5 +1 -6 53% 67% 29% 83 111 36 26% 24% 50% 0 0 0 3 2 1 -3 -2 -1
omen
0.15 0.18 0.09 62 69 52 4 3 1 / 18 11 7 / 2 1 1 -14 -8 -6 32% 42% 14% 50 55 42 36% 43% 25% 0 0 0 2 1 1 -2 -1 -1
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Defend
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
raze
1.33 1.17 1.25 286 332 226 57 34 23 / 43 22 21 / 10 5 5 +14 +12 +2 73% 77% 69% 183 211 154 28% 31% 23% 21 12 9 13 9 4 +8 +3 +5
breach skye kayo
1.11 1.28 1.20 183 157 224 38 15 23 / 32 15 17 / 32 21 11 +6 0 +6 75% 83% 66% 118 90 147 23% 22% 23% 5 2 3 2 1 1 +3 +1 +2
omen viper
1.20 1.13 1.17 202 198 202 41 20 21 / 35 16 19 / 30 13 17 +6 +4 +2 75% 80% 69% 119 123 115 37% 34% 41% 3 1 2 3 0 3 0 +1 -1
killjoy cypher
1.07 1.04 1.05 214 184 241 45 21 24 / 37 16 21 / 10 3 7 +8 +5 +3 69% 70% 69% 146 123 169 28% 26% 31% 4 2 2 4 1 3 0 +1 -1
sova sage gekko
1.07 1.00 1.04 199 188 207 41 21 20 / 37 18 19 / 18 11 7 +4 +3 +1 71% 77% 66% 128 120 136 27% 28% 26% 1 0 1 3 2 1 -2 -2 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
gekko sova
1.32 1.33 1.33 255 237 287 56 26 30 / 39 18 21 / 12 8 4 +17 +8 +9 71% 76% 67% 172 157 186 34% 36% 33% 4 2 2 2 0 2 +2 +2 0
breach raze reyna
0.76 1.10 0.93 183 163 209 37 17 20 / 45 24 21 / 21 14 7 -8 -7 -1 73% 79% 67% 126 106 145 25% 33% 20% 3 1 2 1 1 0 +2 0 +2
raze jett
0.81 0.86 0.84 201 204 192 38 20 18 / 46 23 23 / 6 3 3 -8 -3 -5 58% 59% 57% 125 121 128 22% 26% 17% 14 7 7 15 10 5 -1 -3 +2
cypher viper
0.97 0.32 0.64 138 193 94 27 19 8 / 46 21 25 / 10 5 5 -19 -2 -17 64% 76% 53% 95 122 69 26% 23% 31% 3 2 1 10 4 6 -7 -2 -5
omen killjoy
0.56 0.57 0.57 117 146 95 26 15 11 / 46 25 21 / 11 8 3 -20 -10 -10 54% 59% 50% 83 109 58 40% 38% 43% 1 0 1 6 2 4 -5 -2 -3
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SCARZ
6 / 4
Split PICK
54:35
NORTHEPTION
6 / 7
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
skye
1.42 1.38 1.45 254 232 276 21 9 12 / 14 6 8 / 9 6 3 +7 +3 +4 74% 82% 67% 154 127 180 27% 39% 21% 3 1 2 0 0 0 +3 +1 +2
cypher
0.92 0.57 1.25 167 115 215 14 4 10 / 16 8 8 / 5 2 3 -2 -4 +2 70% 73% 67% 121 86 153 30% 17% 38% 0 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0 -1
raze
0.87 0.92 0.83 220 280 165 15 10 5 / 18 10 8 / 6 2 4 -3 0 -3 65% 64% 67% 145 190 103 21% 32% 0% 7 4 3 7 4 3 0 0 0
omen
0.81 0.96 0.67 166 166 168 13 6 7 / 16 7 9 / 6 4 2 -3 -1 -2 61% 64% 58% 94 95 93 27% 28% 26% 1 0 1 2 0 2 -1 0 -1
sage
0.78 0.87 0.69 163 188 141 14 8 6 / 18 9 9 / 7 4 3 -4 -1 -3 61% 64% 58% 114 120 107 22% 23% 21% 0 0 0 2 2 0 -2 -2 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
sova
1.64 1.87 1.38 335 341 331 28 16 12 / 13 5 8 / 4 2 2 +15 +11 +4 74% 83% 64% 206 213 198 40% 54% 27% 4 2 2 1 0 1 +3 +2 +1
raze
1.11 0.87 1.37 226 175 282 17 7 10 / 16 9 7 / 4 3 1 +1 -2 +3 83% 83% 82% 170 139 204 20% 19% 21% 2 1 1 0 0 0 +2 +1 +1
omen
0.87 0.67 1.08 159 164 154 14 7 7 / 16 10 6 / 7 5 2 -2 -3 +1 78% 75% 82% 108 124 90 39% 37% 42% 0 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0 -1
jett
0.77 0.49 1.07 138 85 197 11 4 7 / 15 8 7 / 0 0 0 -4 -4 0 57% 42% 73% 87 62 115 15% 27% 7% 4 1 3 5 5 0 -1 -4 +3
viper
0.75 1.14 0.33 176 230 120 12 8 4 / 17 8 9 / 6 4 2 -5 0 -5 74% 92% 55% 118 145 88 26% 22% 33% 2 2 0 4 1 3 -2 +1 -3
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SCARZ
9 / 4
Icebox
39:17
NORTHEPTION
3 / 1
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R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
viper
1.45 1.26 1.92 205 186 253 12 7 5 / 8 6 2 / 8 4 4 +4 +1 +3 88% 83% 100% 130 124 144 58% 53% 67% 1 0 1 0 0 0 +1 0 +1
raze
1.37 1.50 1.07 355 377 304 21 15 6 / 14 9 5 / 2 2 0 +7 +6 +1 76% 75% 80% 219 244 160 32% 33% 29% 8 5 3 4 4 0 +4 +1 +3
gekko
1.21 1.23 1.17 185 196 160 12 9 3 / 8 6 2 / 4 3 1 +4 +3 +1 76% 83% 60% 120 122 115 37% 33% 44% 0 0 0 1 0 1 -1 0 -1
killjoy
1.07 1.16 0.86 199 186 234 11 8 3 / 10 6 4 / 3 1 2 +1 +2 -1 71% 67% 80% 156 135 207 27% 26% 29% 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0
kayo
1.07 0.79 1.77 140 70 310 8 2 6 / 8 5 3 / 13 10 3 0 -3 +3 76% 75% 80% 87 39 202 18% 17% 19% 0 0 0 1 1 0 -1 -1 0
R2.0 ACS K D A +/– KAST ADR HS% FK FD +/–
gekko
1.19 0.67 1.41 222 121 264 14 2 12 / 11 4 7 / 3 2 1 +3 -2 +5 76% 80% 75% 153 74 187 41% 30% 46% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
reyna
0.89 0.35 1.12 188 146 206 11 3 8 / 13 5 8 / 6 2 4 -2 -2 0 65% 80% 58% 117 67 138 30% 43% 27% 1 0 1 0 0 0 +1 0 +1
jett
0.74 0.71 0.75 169 207 154 10 4 6 / 14 5 9 / 1 0 1 -4 -1 -3 53% 80% 42% 106 103 108 23% 33% 19% 4 1 3 4 2 2 0 -1 +1
killjoy
0.64 1.24 0.39 129 287 65 8 5 3 / 12 4 8 / 2 2 0 -4 +1 -5 47% 60% 42% 87 203 39 42% 37% 57% 1 0 1 3 1 2 -2 -1 -1
viper
0.36 0.30 0.38 99 109 96 5 2 3 / 14 5 9 / 2 0 2 -9 -3 -6 65% 60% 67% 77 92 71 24% 22% 25% 1 0 1 3 1 2 -2 -1 -1
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Past Matches
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#1
Al-Mawsil
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scarz 2-1

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klyphs
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northeption are my goats don't @ me

#3
_amBrian
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Al-Mawsil [#1]

scarz 2-1

blud has not watched their first match

#4
2NaCl
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I want NTH to win this

#5
arin2016
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1 Japanese and a half-Japanese, this what the future of Japan will look like if it doesn't close the gate. Just kidding. That was a joke. I don't mean anything by that.

Fucking disband SZ. Bad with 3 imports what's the point

#6
Al-Mawsil
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_amBrian [#3]

blud has not watched their first match

they could get 13-0d twice and im still going to predict them to win idc im delusional

#7
Meroich1
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arin2016 [#5]

1 Japanese and a half-Japanese, this what the future of Japan will look like if it doesn't close the gate. Just kidding. That was a joke. I don't mean anything by that.

Fucking disband SZ. Bad with 3 imports what's the point

WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? TEACH ME PLZ

#8
TMosura
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arin2016 [#5]

1 Japanese and a half-Japanese, this what the future of Japan will look like if it doesn't close the gate. Just kidding. That was a joke. I don't mean anything by that.

Fucking disband SZ. Bad with 3 imports what's the point

It's just SCARZ that takes this route; if you see the rest of Japan's T2, there are legitimately great and legit domestic and imported talents that are playing.

Also at the same time, I won't stand for tixx and Yoshi erasure; don't blame the players for taking the opportunity, blame the orgs for letting it happen.

#9
Chirby
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_amBrian [#3]

blud has not watched their first match

SHUT UP!!!
STRONG DELUSION

#10
arin2016
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TMosura [#8]

It's just SCARZ that takes this route; if you see the rest of Japan's T2, there are legitimately great and legit domestic and imported talents that are playing.

Also at the same time, I won't stand for tixx and Yoshi erasure; don't blame the players for taking the opportunity, blame the orgs for letting it happen.

The first part of my comment is a joke. I already said it.

And I am blaming the org but the players are at fault too. Them not being good is technically not the org's fault. The only valid excuse can be communication issues. It still doesn't justify the crazy amount of individual mistakes they make per game. I also don't know what you mean by Yoshi and tixx erasure

#11
IonlywatchvcjXD
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TMosura [#8]

It's just SCARZ that takes this route; if you see the rest of Japan's T2, there are legitimately great and legit domestic and imported talents that are playing.

Also at the same time, I won't stand for tixx and Yoshi erasure; don't blame the players for taking the opportunity, blame the orgs for letting it happen.

I agree that we should not blame the players for grabbing the bag , I just find it incredibly scummy from the management for abusing the import quota. I mean last year was quite weird enough with 3 imports and now they're going to import 4 ? I agree with arin here jp scene won't get far if they still relies on import.

#12
TMosura
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arin2016 [#10]

The first part of my comment is a joke. I already said it.

And I am blaming the org but the players are at fault too. Them not being good is technically not the org's fault. The only valid excuse can be communication issues. It still doesn't justify the crazy amount of individual mistakes they make per game. I also don't know what you mean by Yoshi and tixx erasure

Words and their tones can be hard to discern when written, my bad.

Also I was taking those two as cherry picking, but considering the players are just signed right before Advance Stage, with all their performances, there are possibilities that they're still straightening some things out.

#13
TMosura
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#11]

I agree that we should not blame the players for grabbing the bag , I just find it incredibly scummy from the management for abusing the import quota. I mean last year was quite weird enough with 3 imports and now they're going to import 4 ? I agree with arin here jp scene won't get far if they still relies on import.

Absolutely, and like I said, thankfully it looks like SCARZ are using the import/residence quota to the limit. And like I also said, there are a lot of untapped talent hidden in the mid-T2 scene of Japan, both domestic and import. Once the regeneration comes and more players are being swapped out, I think it'll stabilize themselves.

Although I don't know if there'll be a day that Japan will rely 100% on domestic talent considering their proximity to the KR scene.

#14
IonlywatchvcjXD
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TMosura [#13]

Absolutely, and like I said, thankfully it looks like SCARZ are using the import/residence quota to the limit. And like I also said, there are a lot of untapped talent hidden in the mid-T2 scene of Japan, both domestic and import. Once the regeneration comes and more players are being swapped out, I think it'll stabilize themselves.

Although I don't know if there'll be a day that Japan will rely 100% on domestic talent considering their proximity to the KR scene.

Realistically there will always be kr imports and I can somehow tolerate them because ( cmiiw) they sometimes play in jp server too. I just don't want to see jp vct turns into spanish vct XD

#15
Al-Mawsil
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Chirby [#9]

SHUT UP!!!
STRONG DELUSION

yes sir

#16
Invic_Deep
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Man vlr rating system is useless hopefully they make a change. This system overvalued KAST metric bcz no way tixx was more impactful than Yotaa in Icebox

#17
Chirby
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Invic_Deep [#16]

Man vlr rating system is useless hopefully they make a change. This system overvalued KAST metric bcz no way tixx was more impactful than Yotaa in Icebox

let OCE fans get a win for once please... :((((((((((

#18
gfnchaoz
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Al-Mawsil [#15]

yes sir

W prediction

#19
fdzs
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#11]

I agree that we should not blame the players for grabbing the bag , I just find it incredibly scummy from the management for abusing the import quota. I mean last year was quite weird enough with 3 imports and now they're going to import 4 ? I agree with arin here jp scene won't get far if they still relies on import.

We have 1 jp ,2 half JP( both have documents of being JP citizens) , 2 imports. Just cuz on vlr gg our half JPs have their second half flags rn means we do 4 imports?
There is other team in the league with 1 half br, 1 half ph, 1 jp, 2 imports, no hate from people towards them tho. The only difference between us is language of comms and flags on vlr.

We got informed by admins very late at the end of september of 2023 that we cant play with 2 russians, so old roster decided to part their ways and i had to build roster in rush for RBHG.

SZ wanted me to stay the HC , i wanted to have eng speaking roster to be able to coach them. Its not impossible task. I have a list of ENG speaking japanese players , there are 27 eng speaking JP players. Unfortunately 90% of JP players and good imports in who i had interest ALREADY were signed by other orgs from mid-end summer of 2023 / other orgs didnt want to sell their players to us for any reason / my org denied and said we couldnt get the player cuz of his reputation risks/ buyout of some player is too high/ some were too young and cant play yet, or not radiants yet (we get some of them in our academy) /player want to play in other team and didnt join for this reason.

I had to scout hard and look in non obvious places to make competitive eng speaking roster with no comms issues in a very last moment.

#20
Aielt
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fdzs [#19]

We have 1 jp ,2 half JP( both have documents of being JP citizens) , 2 imports. Just cuz on vlr gg our half JPs have their second half flags rn means we do 4 imports?
There is other team in the league with 1 half br, 1 half ph, 1 jp, 2 imports, no hate from people towards them tho. The only difference between us is language of comms and flags on vlr.

We got informed by admins very late at the end of september of 2023 that we cant play with 2 russians, so old roster decided to part their ways and i had to build roster in rush for RBHG.

SZ wanted me to stay the HC , i wanted to have eng speaking roster to be able to coach them. Its not impossible task. I have a list of ENG speaking japanese players , there are 27 eng speaking JP players. Unfortunately 90% of JP players and good imports in who i had interest ALREADY were signed by other orgs from mid-end summer of 2023 / other orgs didnt want to sell their players to us for any reason / my org denied and said we couldnt get the player cuz of his reputation risks/ buyout of some player is too high/ some were too young and cant play yet, or not radiants yet (we get some of them in our academy) /player want to play in other team and didnt join for this reason.

I had to scout hard and look in non obvious places to make competitive eng speaking roster with no comms issues in a very last moment.

Ignore the haters and stay strong my goat. I've been watching you since the BB days I know what you are capable of

#21
Anguibok
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#14]

Realistically there will always be kr imports and I can somehow tolerate them because ( cmiiw) they sometimes play in jp server too. I just don't want to see jp vct turns into spanish vct XD

I find it kinda normal that Zainichi plays on JP and not being considered as an import, but that kinda the sole exception

#22
Mortadelo
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fdzs [#19]

We have 1 jp ,2 half JP( both have documents of being JP citizens) , 2 imports. Just cuz on vlr gg our half JPs have their second half flags rn means we do 4 imports?
There is other team in the league with 1 half br, 1 half ph, 1 jp, 2 imports, no hate from people towards them tho. The only difference between us is language of comms and flags on vlr.

We got informed by admins very late at the end of september of 2023 that we cant play with 2 russians, so old roster decided to part their ways and i had to build roster in rush for RBHG.

SZ wanted me to stay the HC , i wanted to have eng speaking roster to be able to coach them. Its not impossible task. I have a list of ENG speaking japanese players , there are 27 eng speaking JP players. Unfortunately 90% of JP players and good imports in who i had interest ALREADY were signed by other orgs from mid-end summer of 2023 / other orgs didnt want to sell their players to us for any reason / my org denied and said we couldnt get the player cuz of his reputation risks/ buyout of some player is too high/ some were too young and cant play yet, or not radiants yet (we get some of them in our academy) /player want to play in other team and didnt join for this reason.

I had to scout hard and look in non obvious places to make competitive eng speaking roster with no comms issues in a very last moment.

Many leagues have a rule saying players who’ve been in a league for 2 splits become regional to that league. Does that rule exist on the Japanese league?

#23
fdzs
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Mortadelo [#22]

Many leagues have a rule saying players who’ve been in a league for 2 splits become regional to that league. Does that rule exist on the Japanese league?

Only in EMEA LTR rule exist. APAC leagues only count you resident of league if you legal citizen of a country.

#24
Mortadelo
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fdzs [#23]

Only in EMEA LTR rule exist. APAC leagues only count you resident of league if you legal citizen of a country.

Oh, good to know. That explains it, thanks

#25
Denggysaurus
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fdzs [#19]

We have 1 jp ,2 half JP( both have documents of being JP citizens) , 2 imports. Just cuz on vlr gg our half JPs have their second half flags rn means we do 4 imports?
There is other team in the league with 1 half br, 1 half ph, 1 jp, 2 imports, no hate from people towards them tho. The only difference between us is language of comms and flags on vlr.

We got informed by admins very late at the end of september of 2023 that we cant play with 2 russians, so old roster decided to part their ways and i had to build roster in rush for RBHG.

SZ wanted me to stay the HC , i wanted to have eng speaking roster to be able to coach them. Its not impossible task. I have a list of ENG speaking japanese players , there are 27 eng speaking JP players. Unfortunately 90% of JP players and good imports in who i had interest ALREADY were signed by other orgs from mid-end summer of 2023 / other orgs didnt want to sell their players to us for any reason / my org denied and said we couldnt get the player cuz of his reputation risks/ buyout of some player is too high/ some were too young and cant play yet, or not radiants yet (we get some of them in our academy) /player want to play in other team and didnt join for this reason.

I had to scout hard and look in non obvious places to make competitive eng speaking roster with no comms issues in a very last moment.

Why doesn't admin let you play with 2 Russians?

#26
IonlywatchvcjXD
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Anguibok [#21]

I find it kinda normal that Zainichi plays on JP and not being considered as an import, but that kinda the sole exception

I'm not sure they're really zainichis ( cmiiw ) , either way , zainichi or not if they played in a server for a long time then to me that no longer counts as an import. I know thats probably not the right standard but that's kind of why I don't think yoshii is an import now , the same goes for lumo.

#27
fdzs
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Denggysaurus [#25]

Why doesn't admin let you play with 2 Russians?

I think riot were not happy with a chance of team qualifying to tier 1 with "2 emea imports". Even though Far east russians cant really play on EU. From 2024 rule of having only 1 import from the other major region (EMEA/CN/Americas) works for both tier 1 and tier 2.

I understand the decision and i can see why it was made, so no complains on it, but on timing only. It was said too late in offseason and not even eng speaking jp, just almost no jp players with any tournament experience left, so we were forced to make roster with massive comms issues

#28
IonlywatchvcjXD
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Mortadelo [#22]

Many leagues have a rule saying players who’ve been in a league for 2 splits become regional to that league. Does that rule exist on the Japanese league?

Hi mortadelo, how familiar are you with the Spanish scene, has it always been lots of non-spanish players or is this just a recent thing?

#29
Al-Mawsil
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Invic_Deep [#16]

Man vlr rating system is useless hopefully they make a change. This system overvalued KAST metric bcz no way tixx was more impactful than Yotaa in Icebox

calm down

#30
Mortadelo
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#28]

Hi mortadelo, how familiar are you with the Spanish scene, has it always been lots of non-spanish players or is this just a recent thing?

Very familiar. And yes, it’s pretty much always been like this, from the days when we had Giants TH and KOI in the Spanish league is was already like this. Teams prioritized trying to win and the best way to do that was always through imports.

They implemented the 3 regional player rule eventually which made the league have more national talent for 2 splits until those players became regional and now the league is full of imports again.

It’s funny tho cause the league has lost a lot of it’s viewership which has costed orgs a lot of money. Many orgs left and the remaining ones have started to use more national players now just because it’s cheaper so idk what to tell you. That being said I literally root for KPI the most in the league, they’ve been around a long long time and ascended through our tier 3 circuit. Bisk and Insider have earned their right more than most Spanish players, so I don’t see why I wouldn’t support them

#31
Anguibok
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#26]

I'm not sure they're really zainichis ( cmiiw ) , either way , zainichi or not if they played in a server for a long time then to me that no longer counts as an import. I know thats probably not the right standard but that's kind of why I don't think yoshii is an import now , the same goes for lumo.

Yeah I have no idea if they are too, my point was just, "it's ok if zainichi play in JP"

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