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Stage 1's All-Valorant teams

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Psion

This includes results, stats, and overall performance of both playoffs and group stage, and puts players into all-valorant or all-region teams similar to the NBA
explanation of how we used the flex spot:

Flex is not just for traditional "flash init/viper" players, but also for anyone who plays multiple roles a lot in general, like asuna, who while most his matches are on raze, plays gekko/kayo on breeze, icebox, and ascent, which is 3/6 maps 100T plays (they perma ban lotus). it gave us some more general breathing room to come up with fixes for role conflicts depending on map between teams, especially 100T and paper rex. for all intents and purposes,
TLDR: its a free space where anyone who plays multiple roles on multiple maps technically could fit

International:
IGL: 1 Boostio, 2 Valyn, 3 Mr. Falin | Honorable mentions: Munchkin, Boo
Duelist: 1 Aspas, 2 Jinggg, 3 Cned | HMs: Oxy, T3xture
Initiator: 1 Leo, 2 F0rsaken, 3 Eeiu | HMs: Heat
Sentinel: 1 Benjy, 2 Elite, 3 Leaf | HMs: Less, Laz, Vo0kashu
Controller: 1 Bang, 2 Mako, 3 Valyn | HMs: Shao, mindfreak
Flex: 1 Cryo, 2 Something, 3 Chronicle | HMs: Tenz, Autumn
Now here are the regional lists, if anyone is interested:

Americas:

IGL: 1 Boostio, 2 Valyn, 3 Saadhak | HMs: Kinggg
Duelist: 1 Aspas, 2 Oxy, 3 Keznit | HMs: Zekken
Init: 1 Eeiu, 2 Heat, 3 Trent
Senti: 1 Leaf, 2 Less, 3 Johnqt | HMs: Shyy
Cont: 1 Bang, 2 Valyn, 3 Kingg
Flex: 1 Cryo, 2 Tenz, 3 Asuna | HMs: Mazino, Runi

EMEA:

IGLs: 1 MrFalin, 2 Boo, 3 Boaster
Duelist: 1 Cned, 2 Miniboo, 3 QutionerX | HMs: Marteen, Keiko
Init: 1 Leo, 2 MrFalin, 3 N4rrate | HMs: Riens
Senti: 1 Benjy, 2 Elite, 3 Tomazsy | HMs: Nats, Alfajer"
Cont: 1 Shao, 2 Brave, 3 Sh1n
Flex: 1 Chronicle, 2 Ardiis, 3 Wo0t| HMs: Qraxs, natank

Pacific:

IGLs: 1 Munchkin, 2 Stax, 3 Jessievash
Duelist: 1 Jinggg, 2 T3xture, 3 Jemkim | HMs: Meiy, jremy
init: 1 F0rsaken, 2 D4v41, 3 Munchkin | HMs: Stax, Lmemore
Senti: 1 Laz, 2 Foxy9, 3 Xffero | HMs: Meteor
Cont: 1 Mako, 2 Mindfreak, 3 sScary | HMs: karon, jitboys
flex: 1 Something, 2 Invy, 3 Beyn | HMs: Rossy

China:

IGL: 1 BerLin, 2 Haodong, 3 Nicc | HMs: Heybay
Duelist: 1 Zmjjkk, 2 Life, 3 FengF | HMs: Swerl, TvirusLuke
Init: 1 Nobody, 2 Viva, 3 Hmfi0dzjc9z7 | HMs: CB
Senti: 1 Vo0kashu, 2 CHICHOO, 3 deLb
Cont: 1 nizhaoTZH, 2 aluba, 3 jkuro
Flex: 1 autumn, 2 Smoggy, 3 Lysoar | HMs: rb

Contributors:

Psion, TheCleg, and Geospliced

#2
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why is forsaken not on flex 😡😡😡

nice shit tho

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KochamSmakKoziejSpermy
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damn thats crazy

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Mozzarellas [#2]

why is forsaken not on flex 😡😡😡

nice shit tho

F0rsaken has played 15 games on initiator and 4 games off it in the past 30 days(which technically doesn't include like week 1 or smthn but anyway)
initiator was very weak role in pacific outside d4v41 and Muchkin, and f0rsaken's stats on harbor have been very bad compared to his initiator.
it made much more sense to put him as the #1 initiator in pacific, than the #3 flex, because he was definitely worse than Something and Invy

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KochamSmakKoziejSpermy [#3]

damn thats crazy

wdym

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sscary over karon 💀

#7
pandr420
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Alfajer under Tomazsy and Elite is wild ngl

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pandr420 [#7]

Alfajer under Tomazsy and Elite is wild ngl

both performed better than alfajer imo
stats back this up, elite was debatably the best statistical player of the stage and tomazy is better than alfa in a lot of stats that matter for the anchor/ lurker.
I'd be ok with Alfa above tomazsy via results(1st vs 4th), they are kinda close, but saying Alfa performed better than Elite this stage is wrong

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Derpp [#6]

sscary over karon 💀

yes? the only thing karon has over sscary is results, and even then GenG went 5-5 this split in matches
Sscary was igling and was also statistically better in
K/D, ACS, KAST, ADR, KPR, FK, FK-FD ratio, FD. the only thing karon performed better in sscary in was APR

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average na fan

#11
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Average_NA_fan [#10]

average na fan

i worked on this with 2 europeans.....

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Psion [#11]

i worked on this with 2 europeans.....

*with 2 average emea fans

#13
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Average_NA_fan [#12]

*with 2 average emea fans

would u even call geospliced an EMEA fan? he seems more like a China enjoyer than anything

#14
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Psion [#13]

would u even call geospliced an EMEA fan? he seems more like a China enjoyer than anything

rare smart emea fan china clears

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Psion
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Average_NA_fan [#14]

rare smart emea fan china clears

💀

#16
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Goat purp0 in hm pls

#17
The_Cleg
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Huge W

#18
The_Cleg
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Kirya [#16]

Goat purp0 in hm pls

i love you kyria

#19
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Kirya [#16]

Goat purp0 in hm pls

the ONLY spot where we had more than 2 HM's was Senti on international so that we had 2 international HM's per slot on average (12), so sadly purp0 did not make the cut

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The_Cleg [#18]

i love you kyria

Wtf??

#21
Psion
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Kirya [#20]

Wtf??

The_Cleg yearns for your affection Kirya, accept its gifts and you will prosper

#22
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Psion [#19]

the ONLY spot where we had more than 2 HM's was Senti on international so that we had 2 international HM's per slot on average (12), so sadly purp0 did not make the cut

But he diffed quti in emea stage... And quti is 3rd and purp0 didnt even make hm

#23
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Psion [#9]

yes? the only thing karon has over sscary is results, and even then GenG went 5-5 this split in matches
Sscary was igling and was also statistically better in
K/D, ACS, KAST, ADR, KPR, FK, FK-FD ratio, FD. the only thing karon performed better in sscary in was APR

because sscary's stats mostly comes from baiting?
if sscary was better why did his team go 1-4??? and not to mention karon played twice of rounds and went against tougher opponents more

#24
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Psion [#21]

The_Cleg yearns for your affection Kirya, accept its gifts and you will prosper

No thx

#25
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Kirya [#22]

But he diffed quti in emea stage... And quti is 3rd and purp0 didnt even make hm

we didn't do this for anything except this, but
Bc they were all so close, for the 3rd EMEA slot, we ranked qutioner, purp0, marteen, keiko, and derke in FK, FK-FD, ACS, K/D, Kast, ADR, and KPR
on average the placements were:
Qutioner: 2
Keiko: 2.4
Marteen: 2.6
Derke: 3.6
Purp0: 4.4
so qutioner got the 3rd slot and keiko and marteen got the 2 honorable mentions

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Kirya [#22]

But he diffed quti in emea stage... And quti is 3rd and purp0 didnt even make hm

for # 25, purp0 was last in everything except FK (4th) and Fk-FD (2nd) and qutioner was better than purp0 at both of those

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Derpp [#23]

because sscary's stats mostly comes from baiting?
if sscary was better why did his team go 1-4??? and not to mention karon played twice of rounds and went against tougher opponents more

he took the 3rd most 1st duels of anyone on bleed, and you are kinda supposed to stay alive on controller, smokes are the most important individual pieces of utility in this game besides ults, so besides clove, controllers shouldn't really be taking a lot of first duels. duelists, initiators, and in some cases, sentinels, should be taking fights before controllers

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Derpp [#23]

because sscary's stats mostly comes from baiting?
if sscary was better why did his team go 1-4??? and not to mention karon played twice of rounds and went against tougher opponents more

additionally,
if you take out playoffs where GenG played "tougher opponents," Karon's stats go DOWN
and valorant is a team game you can't expect Sscary to carry his team to victory all on his own

#29
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The_Cleg [#17]

Huge W

indeed

#30
finnwithtwons
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pandr420 [#7]

Alfajer under Tomazsy and Elite is wild ngl

no way we are still underrating tomaszy the kid is insane

#31
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finnwithtwons [#30]

no way we are still underrating tomaszy the kid is insane

are u saying he should be above elite? just checkng

#32
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Psion I love you

#33
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onDez [#32]

Psion I love you

hello ondez, glad you liked this.
While I'd like to say i did most of the heavy lifting, Geo did china by himself and Cleg helped give me a 2nd opinion a lot of the time.
although i do think i could claim most of the credit bc i am the one who talked to geo for him to do china, i'm not going to

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good shit

#35
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Psion [#33]

hello ondez, glad you liked this.
While I'd like to say i did most of the heavy lifting, Geo did china by himself and Cleg helped give me a 2nd opinion a lot of the time.
although i do think i could claim most of the credit bc i am the one who talked to geo for him to do china, i'm not going to

You should claim most of the credit boss

#36
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geospliced [#35]

You should claim most of the credit boss

thanks geo 🫡

#37
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bladaaa [#34]

good shit

thank you bladaaa

#38
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geospliced [#35]

You should claim most of the credit boss

No I did the most don't listen to him

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The_Cleg [#38]

No I did the most don't listen to him

I'm sure you also did work haha

#40
Psion
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The_Cleg [#38]

No I did the most don't listen to him

the only thing u did was try to make me a fnatic fan
i said "nuh uh not happening :3"
ps: for legal reasons this is a joke

#41
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Psion [#40]

the only thing u did was try to make me a fnatic fan
i said "nuh uh not happening :3"
ps: for legal reasons this is a joke

Actual clown behavior

#42
Psion
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The_Cleg [#41]

Actual clown behavior

boaster has dressed up as a clown before i wouldn't be talking

#43
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Psion [#4]

F0rsaken has played 15 games on initiator and 4 games off it in the past 30 days(which technically doesn't include like week 1 or smthn but anyway)
initiator was very weak role in pacific outside d4v41 and Muchkin, and f0rsaken's stats on harbor have been very bad compared to his initiator.
it made much more sense to put him as the #1 initiator in pacific, than the #3 flex, because he was definitely worse than Something and Invy

hmmmm thx for the list but can u also make the same tier list with all time stats so that we know the GOAT IGLs, Flexs, Duelists ?
it would be highly appreciated.
obviously only if you have the free time and patience to do it other wise its cool

#44
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alpine007 [#43]

hmmmm thx for the list but can u also make the same tier list with all time stats so that we know the GOAT IGLs, Flexs, Duelists ?
it would be highly appreciated.
obviously only if you have the free time and patience to do it other wise its cool

I'll see what i can do. If i do make it, i'll only be using international events

#45
finnwithtwons
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Psion [#31]

are u saying he should be above elite? just checkng

not necessarily, but he's without question better than alfa this split for me

#46
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Psion [#44]

I'll see what i can do. If i do make it, i'll only be using international events

yeah international is the true test whereas regionals is basically how your feeling on that day
comparatively**

#47
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alpine007 [#46]

yeah international is the true test whereas regionals is basically how your feeling on that day
comparatively**

nah in regional league playoffs is in the echelon too

#48
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Psion [#42]

boaster has dressed up as a clown before i wouldn't be talking

😶

#49
pandr420
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Psion [#8]

both performed better than alfajer imo
stats back this up, elite was debatably the best statistical player of the stage and tomazy is better than alfa in a lot of stats that matter for the anchor/ lurker.
I'd be ok with Alfa above tomazsy via results(1st vs 4th), they are kinda close, but saying Alfa performed better than Elite this stage is wrong

alfa clears https://www.vlr.gg/341818/karmine-corp-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-ubsf/?game=all&tab=overview

#51
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u should call them all-vct, fits better like all-nba teams

#52
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FireII [#51]

u should call them all-vct, fits better like all-nba teams

yeah probably should

#53
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alpine007 [#46]

yeah international is the true test whereas regionals is basically how your feeling on that day
comparatively**

i'm done with 2024, 2023, and half of 2022.
will do the rest later

#54
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Psion [#53]

i'm done with 2024, 2023, and half of 2022.
will do the rest later

yoooo Bro tysm for actually working on this.

#55
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alpine007 [#54]

yoooo Bro tysm for actually working on this.

no problem, the issue is equating the yearly basis into a total, like do i go by individual year such as
duelist

  1. aspas(2023)
    or do i go by overall player
#56
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meiy below jemkin is braindead. meiy lowk 1st/2nd in apac

#57
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Vegaaa [#56]

meiy below jemkin is braindead. meiy lowk 1st/2nd in apac

its a combination of results(least important though), stats, and overall performance/eye test
sure, by the eye test meiy might've been better(i think jemkin looked better)
but jemkim's stats were much better than RRQ did way better than DFM given they face they had 2ge sub a game (auto loss)

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Psion [#55]

no problem, the issue is equating the yearly basis into a total, like do i go by individual year such as
duelist

  1. aspas(2023)
    or do i go by overall player

go for the 3 main roles of duelist, flex and sentinel. Ik there are others but that is wayyy to much info to sort through

and go by year and then finally just average out for the overall

again thx

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