Every team deserves credit

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idkmanwth

Sen deserves their masters, fnatic deserves their master and lock in, prx and loud deserve credit to be consistent on the international scene (even though loud didnt make it this time, they're still one of the most consistent teams), 100t and g2 and lev deserve credit on representing NA, TH has been one of the strongest teams atm, no hate to any team, all are equally good and deserving. No tournaments are mickey mouse tournaments.

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i_am_mako

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THIS WORLD IS CRUEL

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idkmanwth

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i fucking know right??? one bad game or one bad season and suddenly they get death threats

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i_am_mako

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YESSSSS ;(

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idkmanwth

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:((( world is ruined now

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bladaaa

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CRY IS FREE

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Kirya

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Optic doesnt deserve their credit for re*kjavik 2022 because they got lucky and didnt deserve it

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idkmanwth

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luck plays a part for every team in winning, cant blame the team for that

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FEMBOY DETECTED OPINION REJECTED

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idkmanwth

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i heard drake loves femboys

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Kirya

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Problem?

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DSGFan

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yes

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Dogshit opinion but not surprising from you. Optic definitely deserved that one.

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Kirya

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Best team itw(fpx) couldnt even attend

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OneTapDesign

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Not Optic's fault. Does't make the trophy "undeserved".

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Kirya

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Doesn't matter if its their fault or not, their trophy is fraudulent and they didn't prove theirselves in any other valid tourney

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Nilonesia

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But fpx placed 4th in champs.
How can you guarantee they would win in Reyj?
The team can change a lot in one split brah.

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Klaw69

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🙂👍

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Completely fair take but you can argue FNC don’t deserve Lock/In.

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idkmanwth

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how so? they were consistent throughout the event and if you say 11-3 was lucky, blame it on loud that they didnt play well and close out the game

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valkin

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the single elim format definitely gives some arguement to be made

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idkmanwth

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equal chances for both teams to qualify, if youre the worse team that day, nothing can be done about that, every team has equal chances to qualify

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valkin

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yea but single elim is still shitty

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gfnchaoz

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W

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idkmanwth

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forsaken🤝 boaster
prx 🤝 fnatic
hope to have a rematch against yall

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gfnchaoz

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yep we need a rematch for sure
last time we met, yall almost 13-0 prx on lotus lol

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idkmanwth

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tokyo?? wasnt it 13-5 lotus for fnatic? also maybe cuz yall were playing on a sub

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gfnchaoz

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yes it ended 13-5 but yall went 12-0 on the first half
and also I just realized we're playing on a sub

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idkmanwth

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yeah lol, 2023 fnc lotus was unbreakable, except loud....

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that Lotus game at champs was an antistratting masterclass from LOUD

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idkmanwth

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one of the few...

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johnqtgoat

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real af 💯

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tHERmal_

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goated

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badutsirkus

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a beacon of sanity in vlr, now sugarcoat me on dfm

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idkmanwth

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ahh the glorious japaneese dfm, the unexpected win they had against shanghai participants t1, so many people were willing to oil up if they won, and they proved them wrong and helped us getting streamers all around the world oil up/go bald (sadly they scammed us and never did oil up)

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w take

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Froggy0_0

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W (no mention of gambit is crazy ngl)

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johnqtgoat

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gambit choked icebox vs acend in champs feels bad man

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😭😭😭😭😭😭

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idkmanwth

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i started following valo after gambit and ascend and optic (i started following valo 2023 start), i started following fnatic cuz i was familiar with the org so yeah (im not their fan cuz of the trophies)

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johnqtgoat

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its fine liking a good team with good players i didnt watch last year because i stopped playing val but i have been following pro val since 2020

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idkmanwth

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i love gambit core (cuz i love nats and chron) and mostly turkish teams, prx and geng are real fun to watch cuz shit is fast paced

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EMEAstan

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this is factually incorrect.
3/4 of NA's trophies are flukes (plumber era trophy, FPX couldn't make Iceland, 8 team tourney)

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idkmanwth

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hey, plumber era is an excuse, cuz if shit was so easy other teams couldve won that too, FPX one idk but optic wouldve still put up a fight and were one of the title contenders (so they kinda deserved it too), 8 team tourney is justified cuz it was 8 of the best teams of kickoff, if it would be any other team, i dont think the results would be any different

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plumber era still counts buddy.

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W opinion

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south_america_best_region

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and mwzera is a tier 3 player ❤️

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yes

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Vookanshu > Something. Said it here first

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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Vookanshu over something ICANT

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7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao

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APAC WILL WIN IN SHANGHAI THIS TIME

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ascend didnt deserve champs but other than that yeah