Both NaVi and Heretics 10000% deserve to qual to shanghai. This shit is just fucked.
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StutterSt3p [#4]TH lost to the two teams in the other group who didn't make playoffs, like just win lol.
nerd
StutterSt3p [#4]TH lost to the two teams in the other group who didn't make playoffs, like just win lol.
are you dumb, they had a sub. they are currently a top 3 team and there should be a lower bracket for this matchup
StutterSt3p [#4]TH lost to the two teams in the other group who didn't make playoffs, like just win lol.
this act doesnt fit paper rex fans, we do not claim you
kanyefan4238173 [#7]are you dumb, they had a sub. they are currently a top 3 team and there should be a lower bracket for this matchup
And they made Madrid with that sub. TH was still good with patitek, you can't really use that argument imo
StutterSt3p [#4]TH lost to the two teams in the other group who didn't make playoffs, like just win lol.
they were in the middle of switching players, had visa issues and MiniBoo had class bro give them a break
KITTT [#8]this act doesnt fit paper rex fans, we do not claim you
It's not even an act, the Demon1 thing was out of line, but this is a legit point.
StutterSt3p [#9]And they made Madrid with that sub. TH was still good with patitek, you can't really use that argument imo
You can for the last game cause they literally didn't know if woot was gonna make it, how do you prep for that
Mortadelo [#10]they were in the middle of switching players, had visa issues and MiniBoo had class bro give them a break
Ok and? Is riot supposed to see the future and know this stuff?
StutterSt3p [#9]And they made Madrid with that sub. TH was still good with patitek, you can't really use that argument imo
okay thank you for answering my first question. they are better with their main player and would have done better in groups with their main player 😭
they were good enough to make playoffs and are currently a top 3 team, if a top 3 team makes the playoffs they should be able to qualify so long they beat the teams 4th and below.
rn lets say navi is second best and beats heretics (3rd), heretics wouldnt make it despite being a top 3 team because the groups are unbalanced and the playoffs only have half a lower bracket
StutterSt3p [#13]Ok and? Is riot supposed to see the future and know this stuff?
You think this is about Riot power ranking being wrong dude? That's the exact problem you need to make a format that doesn't require you to predict who's better lol
Mortadelo [#15]You think this is about Riot power ranking being wrong dude? That's the exact problem you need to make a format that doesn't require you to predict who's better lol
No, I just meant that if your argument it that TH got unlucky with roster stuff, how is riot supposed to be able to predict that stuff is going to happen. Also, how much it's going to affect the results of that team.
kanyefan4238173 [#14]okay thank you for answering my first question. they are better with their main player and would have done better in groups with their main player 😭
they were good enough to make playoffs and are currently a top 3 team, if a top 3 team makes the playoffs they should be able to qualify so long they beat the teams 4th and below.
rn lets say navi is second best and beats heretics (3rd), heretics wouldnt make it despite being a top 3 team because the groups are unbalanced and the playoffs only have half a lower bracket
I'm not a fan of this format to be clear, but at the same time, the game is the game. Everyone is playing the format too, and imo, Talon is the only real loser of this format.
StutterSt3p [#17]I'm not a fan of this format to be clear, but at the same time, the game is the game. Everyone is playing the format too, and imo, Talon is the only real loser of this format.
yes everyone is playing the format and some teams are winners and some are losers. fnatic is a winner, loud since madrid has been a winner.
last year they werent this many teams whos international participation was left up to chance, the teams they draw and the groups they have been given
format would be more or less fine if there was a lower bracket, and fans have a right to complain
StutterSt3p [#16]No, I just meant that if your argument it that TH got unlucky with roster stuff, how is riot supposed to be able to predict that stuff is going to happen. Also, how much it's going to affect the results of that team.
It's okay you're not getting the point
Mortadelo [#19]It's okay you're not getting the point
Nah you just suck at making it. Idk when tf I said anything about riot trying to predict who's better.
kanyefan4238173 [#18]yes everyone is playing the format and some teams are winners and some are losers. fnatic is a winner, loud since madrid has been a winner.
last year they werent this many teams whos international participation was left up to chance, the teams they draw and the groups they have been given
format would be more or less fine if there was a lower bracket, and fans have a right to complain
It's not up to chance though, it's more or less about how well you do. Lower bracket is better, but also, just win the game.
StutterSt3p [#20]Nah you just suck at making it. Idk when tf I said anything about riot trying to predict who's better.
Ok and? Is riot supposed to see the future and know this stuff?
No they're not. That's why you don't make a format that requires you to. As simple as that
Mortadelo [#22]Ok and? Is riot supposed to see the future and know this stuff?
No they're not. That's why you don't make a format that requires you to. As simple as that
But every format is going to have problems though. No matter what riot chooses to do, there's always something that could make it more difficult for a team. It sucks for heretics, having roster issues, but at the same time, Loud had problems and still made playoffs. TH is good enough to win against NAVI. Excuses don't cut it for the best teams.
StutterSt3p [#20]Nah you just suck at making it. Idk when tf I said anything about riot trying to predict who's better.
The format sucks because if the 3 best teams in region end up in the same group then 1 of them cant qualify to shanghai no matter what
and th navi and fut were the ones to get affected by it
StutterSt3p [#23]But every format is going to have problems though. No matter what riot chooses to do, there's always something that could make it more difficult for a team. It sucks for heretics, having roster issues, but at the same time, Loud had problems and still made playoffs. TH is good enough to win against NAVI. Excuses don't cut it for the best teams.
It's not about TH making it bro. It's about NAVi TH and FUT being the 3 best teams in EMEA and we can't send all 3 regardless of what happened
StutterSt3p [#21]It's not up to chance though, it's more or less about how well you do. Lower bracket is better, but also, just win the game.
imagine if heretics and liquid swapped groups. heretics would walk into shanghai (prob) and navi would also have a much easier time
groups were chance
Mortadelo [#25]It's not about TH making it bro. It's about NAVi TH and FUT being the 3 best teams in EMEA and we can't send all 3 regardless of what happened
I agree about the not being able to send the top 3 teams if they come through the same group, but at the same time I disagree that both clearly deserve to go.
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