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laeDLaer [#3]of course the sen fan is against it
How would getting rid of lower bracket be better for playoffs?
froggy_lol [#4]How would getting rid of lower bracket be better for playoffs?
Make teams play better, more hype. Do or die
laeDLaer [#6]Make teams play better, more hype. Do or die
Nah, we need APAC to keep choking with map advantage
laeDLaer [#6]Make teams play better, more hype. Do or die
What is stopping the teams from playing to their maximum capability with lower bracket?
froggy_lol [#10]What is stopping the teams from playing to their maximum capability with lower bracket?
Because they have that safety net
laeDLaer [#7]Lockin was great
mf regardless of it being single elim you can't call it great. there were so many meaningless games
KC vs FPX for example, literally meant nothing
laeDLaer [#11]Because they have that safety net
Do you really think that teams right now are willing to risk dropping down to lower bracket?
Psion [#12]mf regardless of it being single elim you can't call it great. there were so many meaningless games
KC vs FPX for example, literally meant nothing
The group stage was mid it should’ve been like the other tournaments true. But playoffs was great
froggy_lol [#13]Do you really think that teams right now are willing to risk dropping down to lower bracket?
Yes
cobalt21312 [#19]no there would be too few games otherwise. i dont want a masters tournament to be like 10 games thats just boring
why is riot only holding 3 international events every year then? cs had 14 tier 1 tournaments last year and there was only 1 major instead of the usual 2
laeDLaer [#3]of course the sen fan is against it
wouldn't sen fans be for it since sen won in a playoffs without a lower bracket????
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#21]wouldn't sen fans be for it since sen won in a playoffs without a lower bracket????
madrid
laeDLaer [#22]madrid
if you're talking about madrid the Bo3 would've been a Bo5 meaning the series isnt decided???
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#23]if you're talking about madrid the Bo3 would've been a Bo5 meaning the series isnt decided???
what?? no they wouldve lost
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#25]you brain? very think?
He's talking about the fact that SEN lost to GEN.G the first time they played
froggy_lol [#27]He's talking about the fact that SEN lost to GEN.G the first time they played
in a bo3 not a bo5 maybe read the thread first...
laeDLaer [#30]how am i pissed off?
u went to crying and making a personal attack. classic angry child response
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#29]in a bo3 not a bo5 maybe read the thread first...
look at the scores of the games lmao sen won 8 rounds in the 2 maps they lost. 1 more wouldve been easy for geng
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#29]in a bo3 not a bo5 maybe read the thread first...
He never says he's talking only about a Bo5 though
Edit: nevermind he's just stupid as fuck
sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#31]u went to crying and making a personal attack. classic angry child response
what personal attack? saying i can see you didnt watch? LMAOO
froggy_lol [#34]He never says he's talking only about a Bo5 though
Edit: nevermind he's just stupid as fuck
It would've been GF? unless hes also saying to make GF a bo3 then it would've been a bo5....
laeDLaer [#32]look at the scores of the games lmao sen won 8 rounds in the 2 maps they lost. 1 more wouldve been easy for geng
oh so you're just looking at the post match results not the gameplay. noted :)
laeDLaer [#35]what personal attack? saying i can see you didnt watch? LMAOO
oh it get it you're sooooooo not mad totally 🤭
laeDLaer [#6]Make teams play better, more hype. Do or die
best team beats second best team, second best team places last.
laeDLaer [#20]why is riot only holding 3 international events every year then? cs had 14 tier 1 tournaments last year and there was only 1 major instead of the usual 2
i want to see more events and keep losers bracket. and doesnt cs have multiple tournament organizers vs val with just riot?
laeDLaer [#20]why is riot only holding 3 international events every year then? cs had 14 tier 1 tournaments last year and there was only 1 major instead of the usual 2
Riot no like long schedule 😂😂😂
Riot like long off season (6 months+)
laeDLaer [#14]The group stage was mid it should’ve been like the other tournaments true. But playoffs was great
but we also don't know if it'd of been better or not if it was single or double elim because each tournament is different(and with how it was formatted us speculating is a bit too ambitious)
like with Masters 3 berlin, I am of the opinion that it would've been better if it was in double elim
We would've of gotten
LR1A SEN vs acend(great match)
LR2A G2 vs SEN/acend (great match, it'd be the 3rd match between SEN and G2 at the event and an inter region match between G2 and acend)
and could've gotten
LR2B 100T vs VS great game, although knowing VS they might've just choked to KRU and i don't think KRU vs 100T would've been close
LR3 100T vs LR2A winner (another great match, yes i am confident 100T beats VS, no i am not debating this)
a 100T vs Envy rematch being the most likely lower bracket final (because the other side of their LR3 match is divided between SEN/acend/G2), and because of how rematches work(loser wins the rematch 2/3 of the time) we'd get a rematch of 100T vs GMB in the finals which is another huge banger
we can't exactly say the same for Lock\in because of the format, it'd be too hard to create a lower bracket, but I'd imagine it wouldn't be to the same extent as berlin because
GenG played LOUD the closest of any team(tied with DRX), they could've been a top 6 team at the event and instead they got relegated to 1 match
This works in reverse too.
the 2 most prevalent examples in my mind, Masters copenhagen and masters 1 Reykjavik, lose a lot of their legacy if you take away the lower bracket (both winners don't win, you miss out on both ZETA and FPX's lower bracket runs
edit: added a bit more context in some places, like "LR3"
cobalt21312 [#44]i want to see more events and keep losers bracket. and doesnt cs have multiple tournament organizers vs val with just riot?
Yes cs has esl blast and pgl as the main TOs
koromast [#48]t1 vs weibo grand finals from worlds werent hype at all this doesnt make sense imo
I have no clue what you’re talking about
ALoKi007 [#51]The only place where APAC wins and you want it to get removed 😤😤😤
Every time an apac team was in a grand final it was from upper bracket bro
laeDLaer [#52]Every time an apac team was in a grand final it was from upper bracket bro
Yeah that's true. though won't the lower brackets give some confidence to low tier teams? Like atleast teams like Global Esports feel more confident when playing lower brackets...
laeDLaer [#50]I have no clue what you’re talking about
league of legends, not exactly the same as valorant in terms of gameplay but playoffs were single elim and semifinals were 1000x better than finals basically
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