Conceit [#2]Champs 2023 better than 21 imo
recency bias
trust me
Champs 2021 >>
while Champs 2023
not much else to list that is interesting
sentinelmain377 [#3]recency bias
trust me
Champs 2021 >>
- KRU run (still the best underdog run in valorant history)
- ACEND vs Vivo Keyd cypher cam exploit
- GAMBIT including (5-12 comeback on Vikings (LOUD of 2021 with Saadhak and Sacy on this team) on map 3)
- APAC first time making playoffs (with 2 teams)
- X10 vs ENVY (upset)
- all the NA vs EU (FNC vs C9, TL vs C9, SEN vs TL, ACEND vs ENVY)
- popularization of omen one-ways
while Champs 2023
- NAVI vs LOUD and NAVI vs DRX (close OT intense games and Ange0)
- billy billy
- GIA vs EDG games
not much else to list that is interesting
anyone who says champs 2023 is better than 21 has either not watched champs 21 or is dumb
sentinelmain377 [#3]recency bias
trust me
Champs 2021 >>
- KRU run (still the best underdog run in valorant history)
- ACEND vs Vivo Keyd cypher cam exploit
- GAMBIT including (5-12 comeback on Vikings (LOUD of 2021 with Saadhak and Sacy on this team) on map 3)
- APAC first time making playoffs (with 2 teams)
- X10 vs ENVY (upset)
- all the NA vs EU (FNC vs C9, TL vs C9, SEN vs TL, ACEND vs ENVY)
- popularization of omen one-ways
while Champs 2023
- NAVI vs LOUD and NAVI vs DRX (close OT intense games and Ange0)
- billy billy
- GIA vs EDG games
not much else to list that is interesting
nostalgia bias
trust me
Champs 2023 >>
AstroGalaxy [#5]Champions 2022 best val event ever, 2023 clears champs 2021
u dint watch 21 bro
dont talk
kyro1 [#9]2021 was not a good year for valorant every single event should be last
did u even watch in 2021
clueless
Hynix [#6]i was gonna hate for putting copenhagen 22 first but then i realized that all the masters events were kind of mid in general
champs 23 should be higher than 21 though.
copenhagen was so good tho (best event id say)
how tf did u feel that it shouldnt have been first until you looked at the other masters
sentinelmain377 [#10]did u even watch in 2021
clueless
didnt watch berlin but i watched champs and reykjavik shit was mid tactically the game was at its worst and so many fraud players and the worst meta the only good thing about 2021 was chronicle ace on bind against kru legendary ace right there
kyro1 [#13]didnt watch berlin but i watched champs and reykjavik shit was mid tactically the game was at its worst and so many fraud players and the worst meta the only good thing about 2021 was chronicle ace on bind against kru legendary ace right there
bro
you missed out
Berlin was the best event of the year (literally the NA vs EU tournament. G2(EU) vs SEN drama + clout matchup, the 100t comebacks on ACEND and GAMBIT, Gambit nAts lurks, Gambit 13-0 G2, Vision Strikers, etc)
no shit you think 2021 was bad
also this list is not about fraud players and metas. it is about entertainment
Siigma777 [#15]EG went from being laughed at for not making champs, to go on a run that culminated in a champs win, yet you act like 23 was boring. On top of that your argument is "recency bias" when you clearly have EU bias
You didnt watch in 2021 bro
you dont know
all the co-streamers
the plat chat couch streams
the legendary KRU run and SENTINELS being upset
way better than eg run bro
TheAceGamer30 [#12]Madrid is a masters event it literally says a MASTERS
its labeled as masters but in reality its just another kickoff tourney like lock in
TheAceGamer30 [#12]Madrid is a masters event it literally says a MASTERS
it wasnt formatted like an actual masters
they just called it that so that is wasnt called a fluke tourney by people (even tho it is)
sentinelmain377 [#16]You didnt watch in 2021 bro
you dont knowall the co-streamers
the plat chat couch streamsthe legendary KRU run and SENTINELS being upset
way better than eg run bro
tf you mean I didn't watch?? Age of my VLR account has nothing to do with when I started watching. Literally all of those thing happened in 2023 if you just change the team names around. Even more co streamers, plat chat, legendary EG run (where they won it though), FNC being upset. Way better than 2021
Siigma777 [#19]tf you mean I didn't watch?? Age of my VLR account has nothing to do with when I started watching. Literally all of those thing happened in 2023 if you just change the team names around. Even more co streamers, plat chat, legendary EG run (where they won it though), FNC being upset. Way better than 2021
EG run was not legendary
that was tokyo
not champs 2023
EG was one of the favorites after FNATIC to win champs 2023 (not an underdog)
sentinelmain377 [#14]bro
you missed out
Berlin was the best event of the year (literally the NA vs EU tournament. G2(EU) vs SEN drama + clout matchup, the 100t comebacks on ACEND and GAMBIT, Gambit nAts lurks, Gambit 13-0 G2, Vision Strikers, etc)no shit you think 2021 was bad
also this list is not about fraud players and metas. it is about entertainment
understand your point but personally astra viper on every map is boring to watch and watching frauds mid round or have shit gameplans is not entertaining to me. you seem like a bit of a nostalgia merchant i cant lie
sentinelmain377 [#20]EG run was not legendary
that was tokyo
not champs 2023EG was one of the favorites after FNATIC to win champs 2023 (not an underdog)
lmao proving you didn't watch is wild. Go back and watch ANY prediction video. Everyone was saying they weren't going to make it far
sentinelmain377 [#20]EG run was not legendary
that was tokyo
not champs 2023EG was one of the favorites after FNATIC to win champs 2023 (not an underdog)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mQKcal_2o&ab_channel=ThinkingMan%27sValorant
Siigma777 [#23]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4mQKcal_2o&ab_channel=ThinkingMan%27sValorant
why the fuck do u watch TMV
he doesnt even do any proper analysis
Sliggy and Sideshow >>>>>>>>>
bro tf u doing to your viewing of valorant bro
sentinelmain377 [#18]it wasnt formatted like an actual masters
they just called it that so that is wasnt called a fluke tourney by people (even tho it is)
double elim group and double elim playoffs it’s practically the same format as every other masters. The Swiss format just adds a randomise factor to the teams you are facing it’s good change . Kickoffs format can be argued for double elim playoffs but you have to be the best to win and that’s what happened.
TheAceGamer30 [#25]double elim group and double elim playoffs it’s practically the same format as every other masters. The Swiss format just adds a randomise factor to the teams you are facing it’s good change . Kickoffs format can be argued for double elim playoffs but you have to be the best to win and that’s what happened.
bro
there was no real stage or split play before the event
it was just some kickoff groups and single-elim playoffs to qualify to madrid
sentinelmain377 [#26]bro
there was no real stage or split play before the event
it was just some kickoff groups and single-elim playoffs to qualify to madrid
like I said before so what? Teams have to adapt to any format that comes in the way. And your acting it wasn’t double elim groups which it was. League split format takes more weeks and they want to add more lan events so would you rather see more regional matches or see more international matches I think everyone would want international.
TheAceGamer30 [#27]like I said before so what? Teams have to adapt to any format that comes in the way. And your acting it wasn’t double elim groups which it was. League split format takes more weeks and they want to add more lan events so would you rather see more regional matches or see more international matches I think everyone would want international.
bro trying so hard to validate a tier 2 tournament looooooool
sentinelmain377 [#11]copenhagen was so good tho (best event id say)
how tf did u feel that it shouldnt have been first until you looked at the other masters
cuz champs 22 was just that much better in comparison
sentinelmain377 [#3]recency bias
trust me
Champs 2021 >>
- KRU run (still the best underdog run in valorant history)
- ACEND vs Vivo Keyd cypher cam exploit
- GAMBIT including (5-12 comeback on Vikings (LOUD of 2021 with Saadhak and Sacy on this team) on map 3)
- APAC first time making playoffs (with 2 teams)
- X10 vs ENVY (upset)
- all the NA vs EU (FNC vs C9, TL vs C9, SEN vs TL, ACEND vs ENVY)
- popularization of omen one-ways
while Champs 2023
- NAVI vs LOUD and NAVI vs DRX (close OT intense games and Ange0)
- billy billy
- GIA vs EDG games
not much else to list that is interesting
Is it crazy to say that whoever won the TL vs Acend game was winning champs 100%?
I know Gambit was crazy good, but they didn't impress me a whole lot at the time during champs despite making it to the final
I would love copenhagen if kru had won vs Guild :(
that 4v2 throw is still a trauma D:
but anyways Lev made the best performance in their history, these games vs XSET and FNC are goated :)
also PRX and FPX were just build different
so yeah is the best masters
btw, Champs 2021 groups >>>>>>>>>>> Champs 2022 Groups
champs 2021 playoffs were dogshit (except for KRU games and Grand final) but champs 2022 playoffs are goated ofc but in 2021 we didn't had lower bracket so is unfair, I believe that champs 2022 is better a bit better but 2021 is nostalgic fr
south_america_best_region [#35]I would love copenhagen if kru had won vs Guild :(
that 4v2 throw is still a trauma D:
but anyways Lev made the best performance in their history, these games vs XSET and FNC are goated :)
also PRX and FPX were just build different
so yeah is the best mastersbtw, Champs 2021 groups >>>>>>>>>>> Champs 2022 Groups
champs 2021 playoffs were dogshit (except for KRU games and Grand final) but champs 2022 playoffs are goated ofc but in 2021 we didn't had lower bracket so is unfair, I believe that champs 2022 is better a bit better but 2021 is nostalgic fr
that GUILD vs KRU game was so good bro
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