You saying it’s Mickey Mouse because it’s the first event May I remind optic has done the same thing 🤣 and ofc your not calling your own win a Mickey Mouse so why should we
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Its not necessarily Madrid but moreso kick off
The format to qualify for Masters Reykjavik was a split and it really gave time for new teams to gel together and build chemistry/synergy
For example, OpTic wouldn't have qualified for Masters Reykjavik if the qualifier had the same format as kick off
If we didn't have kick off and instead had a full split for who qualifies to madrid, then it wouldn't be mickey mouse
Asuna_Yuuki [#2]Its not necessarily Madrid but moreso kick off
The format to qualify for Masters Reykjavik was a split and it really gave time for new teams to gel together and build chemistry/synergy
For example, OpTic wouldn't have qualified for Masters Reykjavik if the qualifier had the same format as kick off
If we didn't have kick off and instead had a full split for who qualifies to madrid, then it wouldn't be mickey mouse
and some would say optic wouldve lost iceland if FPX went there... so many what ifs
Asuna_Yuuki [#2]Its not necessarily Madrid but moreso kick off
The format to qualify for Masters Reykjavik was a split and it really gave time for new teams to gel together and build chemistry/synergy
For example, OpTic wouldn't have qualified for Masters Reykjavik if the qualifier had the same format as kick off
If we didn't have kick off and instead had a full split for who qualifies to madrid, then it wouldn't be mickey mouse
sure qualifying for it can be a little bit lucky but in the end of the day you have to beat the opponent in the game to qualify . And also the whole Madrid format was great the Swiss stage is good and so is double elim playoffs
TheAceGamer30 [#5]sure qualifying for it can be a little bit lucky but in the end of the day you have to beat the opponent in the game to qualify . And also the whole Madrid format was great the Swiss stage is good and so is double elim playoffs
Madrid format was fine but kick off was not.
SEN weer the best team at Madrid but I don't even think the best teams int he world were at madrid
Asuna_Yuuki [#6]Madrid format was fine but kick off was not.
SEN weer the best team at Madrid but I don't even think the best teams int he world were at madrid
there was a lower bracket, then a play-ins, then the knockouts
why do you fail to understand this, maybe NRG shoulda played saved strats and went for play-ins
Kick off wasn't just some 4 team tournament lol
match vs sen was in march, Ethan and Demon1 were already decided by NRG once n4rrate went to KC on december 13,
IN TOTAL: 3 full months to practice or play off-season events, instead of grinding like sen you waited a few weeks to start scrims and played no events, no tears for the lazy
Asuna_Yuuki [#6]Madrid format was fine but kick off was not.
SEN weer the best team at Madrid but I don't even think the best teams int he world were at madrid
Look at the teams that qualified they did way better than the expected team to qualify because they were more hard working than the other teams. Like look at th nobody thought they would make it to an event and nobody thought they would beat fut but they did and managed to destroy Navi a team everyone expected to qualify. The best teams were playing from each region in madrid . Sen beat NRG and loud , lev to win kickoffs . To say not the best teams were in that event was wrong all the teams in Madrid deserved to go over the “ best teams”
AK3 [#7]Excuse me why I see an NRG flair defending other org trophy/accomplishments?
while they have done nothing in the valorant scene yet so please speak once you got something in your shelf, even if we still got 2 into ours so,,,,,
They claim demon1s champs win their win 🤣
TheAceGamer30 [#10]They claim demon1s champs win their win 🤣
They actually claim Optic's win
Get your copes straight
cboomer [#8]there was a lower bracket, then a play-ins, then the knockouts
why do you fail to understand this, maybe NRG shoulda played saved strats and went for play-ins
Kick off wasn't just some 4 team tournament lol
match vs sen was in march, Ethan and Demon1 were already decided by NRG once n4rrate went to KC on december 13,
IN TOTAL: 3 full months to practice or play off-season events, instead of grinding like sen you waited a few weeks to start scrims and played no events, no tears for the lazy
Its because Demon1 and Ethan were in contract jail
We couldn’t practice
Don’t talk about things you don’t know
TheAceGamer30 [#9]Look at the teams that qualified they did way better than the expected team to qualify because they were more hard working than the other teams. Like look at th nobody thought they would make it to an event and nobody thought they would beat fut but they did and managed to destroy Navi a team everyone expected to qualify. The best teams were playing from each region in madrid . Sen beat NRG and loud , lev to win kickoffs . To say not the best teams were in that event was wrong all the teams in Madrid deserved to go over the “ best teams”
NRG shoulda grinded play-ins
mfs were just lazy lol i heard mfs saying they only had 1 month to scrim, despite ethan and demon1 joining in DECEMBER
cboomer [#8]there was a lower bracket, then a play-ins, then the knockouts
why do you fail to understand this, maybe NRG shoulda played saved strats and went for play-ins
Kick off wasn't just some 4 team tournament lol
match vs sen was in march, Ethan and Demon1 were already decided by NRG once n4rrate went to KC on december 13,
IN TOTAL: 3 full months to practice or play off-season events, instead of grinding like sen you waited a few weeks to start scrims and played no events, no tears for the lazy
Yeah this NRG having no time excuse is cope they should’ve been better on the day instead of trolling their map picks to make sen win 🤣
cboomer [#14]NRG shoulda grinded play-ins
mfs were just lazy lol i heard mfs saying they only had 1 month to scrim, despite ethan and demon1 joining in DECEMBER
Exactly
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]Its because Demon1 and Ethan were in contract jail
We couldn’t practice
Don’t talk about things you don’t know
https://www.vlr.gg/293082/marved-returns-to-nrg-core-ethan-and-demon1-join
read the date, this is when it was officially announced, they were probably able to scrim full time for weeks before this
DECEMBER 23 OFFICIAL MATCH AGAINST SEN MARCH 2
WE ARE DONE WITH THE "NRG HAD NO PRAC TIME" NARRATIVE
dort [#16]because optic didnt qualify through a single elim bracket dumbass 😂
it means sens win is more impressive than optics 😂. Since it was way harder format
TheAceGamer30 [#17]Yeah this NRG having no time excuse is cope they should’ve been better on the day instead of trolling their map picks to make sen win 🤣
nrg had 3 months to prac and still got thrashed
if we replay sunset, all it takes is for sen to get 1 pistol and they win 13-9 lol
cboomer [#19]https://www.vlr.gg/293082/marved-returns-to-nrg-core-ethan-and-demon1-join
read the date, this is when it was officially announced, they were probably able to scrim full time for weeks before this
DECEMBER 23 OFFICIAL MATCH AGAINST SEN MARCH 2
WE ARE DONE WITH THE "NRG HAD NO PRAC TIME" NARRATIVE
They had two months that’s enough time for team to be good
cboomer [#21]nrg had 3 months to prac and still got thrashed
if we replay sunset, all it takes is for sen to get 1 pistol and they win 13-9 lol
Sen should have won that first pistol round on sunset . NRG got lucky fr
TheAceGamer30 [#20]it means sens win is more impressive than optics 😂. Since it was way harder format
sen was just favored since they had many more months of practice thats all. if current nrg faced sen it would be a cake walk
dort [#24]sen was just favored since they had many more months of practice thats all. if current nrg faced sen it would be a cake walk
3 months not enough?
cboomer [#25]3 months not enough?
Yeah he’s just coping so hard 😂. 13-3 loss must have hurt him that bad
dort [#24]sen was just favored since they had many more months of practice thats all. if current nrg faced sen it would be a cake walk
this will be decided after the LEV match, if NRG could dismantle LEV and make them look bad, tbh NRG got the easiest match ups until now no cap.
AK3 [#27]this will be decided after the LEV match, if NRG could dismantle LEV and make them look bad, tbh NRG got the easiest match ups until now no cap.
NRG should get first seed if they somehow don’t I’ll be shocked
TheAceGamer30 [#26]Yeah he’s just coping so hard 😂. 13-3 loss must have hurt him that bad
Damn I remember watching it live bro, that was hell of a (set down, lower your ego) kinda map lol
babysasuke [#28]I think you're forgetting that Zellsis (a literally nobody and lower tier Valorant streamer) was given a trophy
This is the biggest hit to competitive integrity since Kiles
SEN looks like a good team for the first time since 2021, but NRG is gonna smoke them for the rest of the year simple as
What’s it with you hating on Zellsis? we will see who wins in the rematch against sen vs NRG I hope we see it again soon
babysasuke [#28]I think you're forgetting that Zellsis (a literally nobody and lower tier Valorant streamer) was given a trophy
This is the biggest hit to competitive integrity since Kiles
SEN looks like a good team for the first time since 2021, but NRG is gonna smoke them for the rest of the year simple as
So are we getting XSET vs OPTIC treat this year maybe ?
babysasuke [#28]I think you're forgetting that Zellsis (a literally nobody and lower tier Valorant streamer) was given a trophy
This is the biggest hit to competitive integrity since Kiles
SEN looks like a good team for the first time since 2021, but NRG is gonna smoke them for the rest of the year simple as
faze used to be top 2 NA btw talk about a hit to competitive integrity
EnterKey [#30]Honestly nrg might've qualified if they picked lotus over split, but that's a team problem not a bracket problem
Have you forgotten how good sens lotus is? They 13-4ed loud on it the day after that game . I doubt NRG would have won on lotus
TheAceGamer30 [#32]What’s it with you hating on Zellsis? we will see who wins in the rematch against sen vs NRG I hope we see it again soon
maybe if playoffs, but I hope the rematch happens on shanghai upper finals maybe, we would see a great valorant from both teams ngl and the match will actually matter
FNC_Ajay [#34]NRG won one event , that too in war outbreak era
Even masters 2021 is better than masters Iceland 2022
NRG hasn’t won anything 😭. The optic core from NRG won it
cboomer [#25]3 months not enough?
mans just making up random numbers 💀 whatever it takes to validate a fluke win ig
AK3 [#37]maybe if playoffs, but I hope the rematch happens on shanghai upper finals maybe, we would see a great valorant from both teams ngl and the match will actually matter
I mean that would be great to watch
AstroGalaxy [#4]and some would say optic wouldve lost iceland if FPX went there... so many what ifs
Yeah exactly. Ifs and Buts don't really matter after the end result. You can speculate all you want but achievements are everlasting.
dort [#39]mans just making up random numbers 💀 whatever it takes to validate a fluke win ig
bro doesn’t know when his own team is formed 🤣😂
FNC_Ajay [#34]NRG won one event , that too in war outbreak era
Even masters 2021 is better than masters Iceland 2022
no optic won that event, NRG didn't we are talking about orgs not the players, and if this the case, SACY won 1 of the most competitive events champs 2022 we could claim it too no ?
TheAceGamer30 [#32]What’s it with you hating on Zellsis? we will see who wins in the rematch against sen vs NRG I hope we see it again soon
leeches clout from bigger names
0 accomplishments (unless you count get carried by TenZ, Zekken, and Sacy) and has been handed Tier 1 opportunities for as long as the game as existed and done nothing with them
Misogynist and/or racist causing him to get suspended while on V1
Crybaby on Twitter
Ruined yay's 2023 career opportunities by not taking LOCK//IN seriously and getting him dropped right before the roster lock
Generally annoying and no personality other than screaming and twerking
and his haircut, fighting with redgar for the "barber fucked up my shit" award
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NRG will win and it won't be close
The_Cleg [#41]Yeah exactly. Ifs and Buts don't really matter after the end result. You can speculate all you want but achievements are everlasting.
Exactly that’s why I don’t like people calling any event Mickey Mouse it undermines the teams win
cboomer [#35]faze used to be top 2 NA btw talk about a hit to competitive integrity
FaZe peaked top 4, no global quals, unlucky
and that team was great until meta moved and they couldn't keep up
dort [#47]all the sen fans are claiming sacy trophy bro 😂
we are not only sacys claiming that sen fans are claiming the two masters win like stfu bro your team has won nothing
TheAceGamer30 [#45]Exactly that’s why I don’t like people calling any event Mickey Mouse it undermines the teams win
madrid, all 2021 tournaments, and lock in are all mickey mouse. rest are valid
AK3 [#43]no optic won that event, NRG didn't we are talking about orgs not the players, and if this the case, SACY won 1 of the most competitive events champs 2022 we could claim it too no ?
Dude , before fns exit it was NRG - yay only ig
Now it's NRG - yay - fns
So let's give it to the optic core fans not the NRG org fans
babysasuke [#44]leeches clout from bigger names
0 accomplishments (unless you count get carried by TenZ, Zekken, and Sacy) and has been handed Tier 1 opportunities for as long as the game as existed and done nothing with them
Misogynist and/or racist causing him to get suspended while on V1
Crybaby on Twitter
Ruined yay's 2023 career opportunities by not taking LOCK//IN seriously and getting him dropped right before the roster lock
Generally annoying and no personality other than screaming and twerking
and his haircut, fighting with redgar for the "barber fucked up my shit" award
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NRG will win and it won't be close
I mean bro you are been delusional saying Zellsis done nothing and ruined yay's carrier, idk about his past on cs, but even FNS gave credits to zellsis on how vocal he is on SEN and back on C9 bro, you can hate but you cant say he got carried or he didn't contribute in the wining.
babysasuke [#46]FaZe peaked top 4, no global quals, unlucky
and that team was great until meta moved and they couldn't keep up
https://www.vlr.gg/12557/sentinels-vs-faze-clan-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-masters-gf
FNC_Ajay [#50]Dude , before fns exit it was NRG - yay only ig
Now it's NRG - yay - fns
So let's give it to the optic core fans not the NRG org fans
Yes
dort [#49]madrid, all 2021 tournaments, and lock in are all mickey mouse. rest are valid
I don't get the mickey mouse arguement
XXX team doesn't deserve the win, the format was bad...
They still beat all the other teams, in the end all that matters is being better than everyone else
dort [#47]all the sen fans are claiming sacy trophy bro 😂
I cant recall any SEN fan or any SEN affiliated personnel claiming that, we don't claim others accomplishments buddy, we make accomplishments by ourselves.
AK3 [#51]I mean bro you are been delusional saying Zellsis done nothing and ruined yay's carrier, idk about his past on cs, but even FNS gave credits to zellsis on how vocal he is on SEN and back on C9 bro, you can hate but you cant say he got carried or he didn't contribute in the wining.
FNS just saying shit, his career goal is networking now that he's streaming and not building rosters
If FNS loves him so much, why did he never pick him up on one of his teams?
Put me in the roster and I'll be super vocal and contribute to the win, doesn't make me a world class player. Sacy, TenZ, and Zekken will get me the win anyway (now that they have a real IGL and they're literally lost all game).
cboomer [#21]nrg had 3 months to prac and still got thrashed
if we replay sunset, all it takes is for sen to get 1 pistol and they win 13-9 lol
if sen and nrg replayed sunset it would just be sen getting dominated.
tenz and zekken had the game of their lives and dropped 30 bombs while ethan went 9-22. all while still bringing the match to OT.
replay sunset and it's a 13-6 at least
AK3 [#55]I cant recall any SEN fan or any SEN affiliated personnel claiming that, we don't claim others accomplishments buddy, we make accomplishments by ourselves.
this guy is like saying 100t has a champs trophy since they have two champions in their team 🤣 no 100t fan would say that
Chirby [#54]I don't get the mickey mouse arguement
XXX team doesn't deserve the win, the format was bad...
They still beat all the other teams, in the end all that matters is being better than everyone else
I don't think Madrid was mickey mouse. But Lock/IN was absolutely a mickey mouse tournament. There was no seeding, it was single elimination from start to end. It was a joke tournament and has no clout. Everything else is fine.
Chirby [#54]I don't get the mickey mouse arguement
XXX team doesn't deserve the win, the format was bad...
They still beat all the other teams, in the end all that matters is being better than everyone else
all it takes is one bad game and you are gone from an event. just look at SEN vs LEV, they were the best team at madrid and now they lose 2-0 to t0x and cum.
imagine if they performed like that during the single elim playoffs
cboomer [#52]https://www.vlr.gg/12557/sentinels-vs-faze-clan-champions-tour-north-america-stage-1-masters-gf
Love FaZe but Im not really putting any stock in this
dort [#57]if sen and nrg replayed sunset it would just be sen getting dominated.
tenz and zekken had the game of their lives and dropped 30 bombs while ethan went 9-22. all while still bringing the match to OT.
replay sunset and it's a 13-6 at least
The copium 🤣
FNC_Ajay [#50]Dude , before fns exit it was NRG - yay only ig
Now it's NRG - yay - fns
So let's give it to the optic core fans not the NRG org fans
I say it before on multiple occasions and I will repeat it again, I think NRG players is the best on their current roles and they are set to achieve a lot this year any1 deny it will be joking, yes the core won an event before under other org name good for them and they are great set of players, the Idea here from this thread is that NRG fans crying about SENs trophies been micky mouse, while NRG didn't accomplish any thing on the scene yet and claiming other ORGs accomplishment(while that accomplishment was a first year event as sen ), we don't hate in the players as I say I think they are goated on their respective roles, we hate on the delusional NRG fans that's it
dort [#57]if sen and nrg replayed sunset it would just be sen getting dominated.
tenz and zekken had the game of their lives and dropped 30 bombs while ethan went 9-22. all while still bringing the match to OT.
replay sunset and it's a 13-6 at least
i think its time to move on.. you lost
it wasn't single elim, the group stage was double elim, and there was a play-ins, then a playoffs
maybe just don't lose elimination games?
cboomer [#21]nrg had 3 months to prac and still got thrashed
if we replay sunset, all it takes is for sen to get 1 pistol and they win 13-9 lol
thrashed is an interesting word. One of their map losses required 2 different individual opponents dropping 30+ kills each.
fatdaddy [#59]I don't think Madrid was mickey mouse. But Lock/IN was absolutely a mickey mouse tournament. There was no seeding, it was single elimination from start to end. It was a joke tournament and has no clout. Everything else is fine.
the seeding and single elim is awful but realistically who was the most impacted by the single elim? like who genuinely had a chance of winning
fatdaddy [#65]thrashed is an interesting word. One of their map losses required 2 different individual opponents dropping 30+ kills each.
it also required a few ninja defueses a double pistol and a few ecos/bonuses from nrg that don't happen most times
NRG also won two clutches but had 20 less kills on the map, even if zekken and don't drop 30 kills (the map was 14-16 it's not that impressive to have 30 kills) they would win in regulation usually
fatdaddy [#65]thrashed is an interesting word. One of their map losses required 2 different individual opponents dropping 30+ kills each.
I don’t know why he thinks NRG would win on sunset against sen sen is the best sunset team itw as of rn
AK3 [#63]I say it before on multiple occasions and I will repeat it again, I think NRG players is the best on their current roles and they are set to achieve a lot this year any1 deny it will be joking, yes the core won an event before under other org name good for them and they are great set of players, the Idea here from this thread is that NRG fans crying about SENs trophies been micky mouse, while NRG didn't accomplish any thing on the scene yet and claiming other ORGs accomplishment(while that accomplishment was a first year event as sen ), we don't hate in the players as I say I think they are goated on their respective roles, we hate on the delusional NRG fans that's it
Fr we aren’t hating on the team we hating on the fans
babysasuke [#56]FNS just saying shit, his career goal is networking now that he's streaming and not building rosters
If FNS loves him so much, why did he never pick him up on one of his teams?
Put me in the roster and I'll be super vocal and contribute to the win, doesn't make me a world class player. Sacy, TenZ, and Zekken will get me the win anyway (now that they have a real IGL and they're literally lost all game).
I know you're baiting but it's actually true that FNS just talks to talk and wouldn't wanna be on a team with zellsis for sure kkkkkkk
cboomer [#67]it also required a few ninja defueses a double pistol and a few ecos/bonuses from nrg that don't happen most times
NRG also won two clutches but had 20 less kills on the map, even if zekken and don't drop 30 kills (the map was 14-16 it's not that impressive to have 30 kills) they would win in regulation usually
do you even know what a ninja defuse is? please stop embarrassing yourself 😹
cboomer [#64]i think its time to move on.. you lost
it wasn't single elim, the group stage was double elim, and there was a play-ins, then a playoffs
maybe just don't lose elimination games?
wdym time to move on, you are the one that brought it up dumbass 😭
uwukitten [#71]do you even know what a ninja defuse is? please stop embarrassing yourself 😹
watch the game, stop tears
dort [#72]wdym time to move on, you are the one that brought it up dumbass 😭
you replied to me incel
cboomer [#73]watch the game, stop tears
how I feel when cboomer tells me to stop tears (he's bronze and doesn't even know what a ninja defuse is) 😢
uwukitten [#71]do you even know what a ninja defuse is? please stop embarrassing yourself 😹
That was literally ninja defuse???? Sen thought they were faking
TheAceGamer30 [#76]That was literally ninja defuse???? Sen thought they were faking
ninja defuse is when the other team doesn't even realize you BEGAN defusing, it usually happens when someone is hiding on site and begins defusing right after spike is planted
sen not killing the guy defusing and thinking he's not on it is a misplay not a ninja defuse lmfao
Whys this bro talking about the past lmfao no one complained or cared back then.
Get better at the game first kid.
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https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/a252f177-bb7f-461a-a353-65e2ba0aba74
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uwukitten [#77]ninja defuse is when the other team doesn't even realize you BEGAN defusing, it usually happens when someone is hiding on site and begins defusing right after spike is planted
sen not killing the guy defusing and thinking he's not on it is a misplay not a ninja defuse lmfao
bro they didn’t know he fully defusing until they won the round idk how else that can’t be a ninja defuse
Asuna_Yuuki [#2]Its not necessarily Madrid but moreso kick off
The format to qualify for Masters Reykjavik was a split and it really gave time for new teams to gel together and build chemistry/synergy
For example, OpTic wouldn't have qualified for Masters Reykjavik if the qualifier had the same format as kick off
If we didn't have kick off and instead had a full split for who qualifies to madrid, then it wouldn't be mickey mouse
Doesn’t matter sen clears floptic
valkin [#66]the seeding and single elim is awful but realistically who was the most impacted by the single elim? like who genuinely had a chance of winning
you could argue NRG could've done just as well as LOUD in the top 4, but outside of that none of the other teams were even touching the top 4
peetherium [#81]you could argue NRG could've done just as well as LOUD in the top 4, but outside of that none of the other teams were even touching the top 4
True
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]Its because Demon1 and Ethan were in contract jail
We couldn’t practice
Don’t talk about things you don’t know
Bud still thinks he’s on the team
cboomer [#19]https://www.vlr.gg/293082/marved-returns-to-nrg-core-ethan-and-demon1-join
read the date, this is when it was officially announced, they were probably able to scrim full time for weeks before this
DECEMBER 23 OFFICIAL MATCH AGAINST SEN MARCH 2
WE ARE DONE WITH THE "NRG HAD NO PRAC TIME" NARRATIVE
SEN was scrimming while EG was winning champs lol
and then Riot decided to change the entire meta 2 weeks before kickoff which would ruin a new team who doesnt have much practice compared to everyone else
XiXiWiiPee [#84]SEN was scrimming while EG was winning champs lol
and then Riot decided to change the entire meta 2 weeks before kickoff which would ruin a new team who doesnt have much practice compared to everyone else
Doesn’t change the fact that NRG didn’t had time to practice . This excuse NRG lost because of time is a shit excuse
So we just gonna ignore the double elim groups, the hectic single day double games play-ins? Saying "oh if NRG won sunset...." is just a cope. NRG had longer prep time and so many sen vods, almost everything was in their favour yet they lost an important elimination match that day, end of discussion.
squirtle136 [#86]So we just gonna ignore the double elim groups, the hectic single day double games play-ins? Saying "oh if NRG won sunset...." is just a cope. NRG had longer prep time and so many sen vods, almost everything was in their favour yet they lost an important elimination match that day, end of discussion.
Exactly
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