The hate on GE

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Denjisideals

I have been watching Valorant eSports for quite sometime now and when I saw all the hate that GE gets, I was lowkey confused because yes they are a bad team but I didn't know why people were genuinely hating on these guys. Like I have seen people troll teams but the hate on GE is like full fledged hate.

Me being an Indian, I get GE content recommended pretty often and looking at the context behind it all, it lowkey makes sense and their org owner being a complete and utter dumbass is one of the biggest reasons this shit is happening.

Rushindra was apparantly asked why he doesn't pick 5 Indian players for the team. Now in this situation, a smart owner would either ignore the question or say something on the lines of "We are looking for new players, if someone gets on our radar, we will try to sign them" or just random diplomatic answer. This mf just straight up said "5 Indian players are not good enough". It sounds cool that "oh he is saying the truth" but when you have an audience full of that particular demographic, you don't say something like that as it just makes sure that when your decision fails, you are getting trolled bad. And exactly that has happened.

He also keeps making this whole point of GE being India's last hope typa shit which makes people even more riled up.

Also they are a shit team, so there's that.

Does this excuse the messages Polvi and others are getting (which I won't repeat here but are pretty bad)? No. But could this be avoided by some extent? Absolutely.

Mention if I missed something down in the comments 🙏🏻

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TeraBaapLawre

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Ge kuch ukhad nahi payega. Pushindra Sinha RR he karega sach sune ka gaand mein dum nahi hai uska aur uske chela ka

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CoCloudy

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no clue what you said but still W

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Ge isn't uprooting anything.Ge owner just keeps yapping, His ass ain't capable of listening to truth.

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Get 5 Indians and all the hate is instantly gone most of it
The only reason ge made franchising was cuz of India and now they have 1 indian
Fk ge

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Denjisideals

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Even if they don't get 5 Indians, he can just shut the fuck up. Everytime he speaks or tweets, I just get more and more annoyed oml.

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Al-Mawsil

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while getting 5 indians is fine compartively to now its still not going to get them what they want. THose 5 indians will be abosultely crushed and indians will just end up not watching them after some time, I think they should do a lightningfast, put him with coaches and good players and allow him to grow and now he's their best player. Maybe get one or two indians and off season grind with them keep russ he aint that bad, get a better coach and find another cracked player and just let these indians players get good, the moments one indian is in vct int and performs well is when popularity is guarantted to succeed.

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Idk man from what I heard most don’t care if they don’t do well as long as Indian talent gets more exposure

I think the same thing is going on with BBL, sticking to Turkish players even when they aren’t the best

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they are capping out of their minds ong bro trust me, sure the temp dopamine hit of yay we got 5 indians, but when they do absoultely skank for a long ass time the community will turn on them, they will be clowned on internationally, regionally and locally, internationally and regionally for obvious reasons people dont like indians and this gives more fuel to the flame. Locally because they are jsut gonna keep asking for roster changes whoeer does ass, their heads will be asked to cut off and put this player instead or this other player instead, they will not give the 5 man time to improve, thats why I think they should put indian players slowly like what they did with lf and allow them to grow and get support from the team and the world. Anyways that my opinion I dont follow the indian scene or am I indian myself, so take my shit with a grain of salt.

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There's a massive talent pool in turkey, that's why one of the masters events was hosted in Istanbul. Turkey also has a better connection to Europe at least. Indian players will mostly just be founded on mumbai/Delhi servers I think. Far too isolated for the Indian talent pool to increase in quality & quantity.

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a better coach is definintely needed sp0n is mega fraud

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badutsirkus

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based fruit/vegetable

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/berry

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trvnq

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keep russ, benkai and lf and work around them, it'd be nice to bring in two indian talents from t2 and find a good coach

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SK POSY MA GOAT

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Getsyuga

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If you see the stats in tier 2 this season, he is still the GOAT. Only Indian in top 5. He is my GOAT.

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PandaPrince

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tier 2?

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Getsyuga

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VCL SA (and other regions) is Tier 2, VCT (Regions + Masters + Champions) are Tier 1

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StromLight

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He is playing so bad in sa

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Getsyuga

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Are you dead ass? Dude is second ranked overall in the stats sheet for VCL SA

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No way India doesn’t have players that are better than peoplr like russ polvi and benkai

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bruddah

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russ is good. we can rebulid around russ and LF.

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Aquemini

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Keep rus and lf, pick up kohli, anq and some random from apac.

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afflict3d

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dos9>anq if u want a duelist in the indian scene imo
dos9 (duelist)
russ (init/igl)
LF (roleswap to sentinel)
kohlii (smokes)
bazzi (flex)

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Aquemini

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dos9 cant play yoru and his raze is not that good tho, thats why i said anq. But yeah thats probably the best roster with what they have. Other option is picking up JohnOlsen, that mf is cracked

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afflict3d

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johnolsen and ptc are mini jingg and forsaken id fw a full sense x global crossover

im not a yoru enjoyer as much as other ppl are, and i think dos9's raze can be coached

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russ is good no?, he is good player and also good igl and he count as indian since p0lvi is import so our 2 indian doing better than sp0n and his buffoon

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Froggy0_0

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they should pick up deathmaker

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lilbhosduu

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They should pick Egoist for sentinel since bl00d kicked him and fire Benkai, the fraud

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Froggy0_0

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kick polvi get deathmaker huge upgrade i watched him play in like 2021 or 2022 and he was killing it

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lilbhosduu

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Venka clears any Indian duelist

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Froggy0_0

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idk its been like a year or two since i watched him so he might have fallen off

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lilbhosduu

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Lf
Rossi
Paradox
Venka
Kohli
no need for Russ

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who will igl?

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lilbhosduu

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Rossi or Paradox

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Krytox

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lmao you are definitely trolling

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MagicSpecies

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kekw

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dashhhh

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LF
Skrossi
Hoax
Venka
Techno
Kibo or Dcrulz-6th

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Aquemini

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A lot of the hate the team receives is from Skrossi and his fanbase from previous years.

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Denjisideals

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I understand that. SK Rossi got so pressurised last season due to him too partly. These mfs advertised him as the BIGGEST INDIAN PROSPECT which he could be if they gave him time. But they didn't and look where he is now, in tier 3, doing great without the pressure, trying to build up from scratches.

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Getsyuga

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tier 2*
And yes those 14 yo rossi fans didn't know shi about tier 1 scene and just overhyped him for no reason. And the descision for him to play sage without practice on his interantional debut was just something else. Currently he is the best Indian player in the tier 2 scene.

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Aquemini

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i would take kohlii over him if im being honest.

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Getsyuga

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He is inititator/chamber main rn and is performing better than kohlii/any other indian player. What's you reason behind chosing Kohlii?

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Aquemini

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He is 6 years younger and has showed a much bigger flexibility capacity. Besides that, rossi new roles clash with russ

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Po0o

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Worst team to in the franchising

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amedy

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did you forget gentle m8 exists

also flair, its always the sen/nrg fans with the worst takes

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BruteAXE

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nah furia or bleed is worse than gentle m8

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amedy

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you really tried to sneak bleed in there

ill give you this, we're not in the best form but champs qualification after stage 2 is 75% likely if we drop y0y and z0st and bring back egoist and put crazyguy back in, hoping the management wakes up soon

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Aquemini

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dude stop coping bruv. In no world bleed can sign a roster that is better than rrq, t1, geng, prx or drx

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Strobe

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but a roster better than GE 🤓👆

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BruteAXE

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zest is carrying your team in last match+ whole team is not same page and dont have idea what they are about to do, also in kickoff if y0y cant do nothing what other 4 was doing and they find better players but still cant do nothing, no way in the world they gonna go champs

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amedy

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i see a dfm flair and i stop reading

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BruteAXE

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why did you even replay than also we got more win than bleed in vct

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amedy

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because ur a bot

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Po0o

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You fucking moron. Gentle m8 came through ascension. GE should never get the franchising spot. Jumping in like a fucking twat anywhere you get a chance

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amedy

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wtf is ur problem? insulting people for no reason?

go to a therapist for anger management, and maybe take a deep breath and realize we're all human beings who have things going on in our lives

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Po0o

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Not my fucking problem. I don't give a shit!

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amedy

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i hope your soul finds peace my friend, you need to learn the ways of tranquility and harmony

happiness is still achievable, i promise you

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Po0o

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Finding happiness is an extravagance beyond reach amidst the afflictions of this world.

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cringe

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Chintu

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As an owner of a business, he's allowed to say that indian players do not instill confidence in him yet to play at that level (though LF clears atm), because it's his company and he's allowed to put money into where he thinks, is the right investment. I honestly have no sort of problem with the "only 1 Indian" in the team.
BUT, The problem for me is the fact that his project is failing in front of his own eyes ; despite so much expenditure, time and effort put into these guys, this team ends up going winless. Not only is it frustrating for the fans, but also embarrassing from the organisation's standpoint. Like, why should anyone "trust a process" that is 6 months in the making (excluding 2023 season) with a 1 win 5 loss record (with the win being against the next worst performing team at the moment)?
Anyways, it's still the middle of this stage, hopefully they shut me up and surprise the fuck out of me.

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iriXium

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You're absolutely right. Everything about their marketing is also terrible. The owner making 15 tweets a day and getting no real attention on any of them really hurts them. The only hype they get is from their Indian fans and Rushindra not respecting them hurts the team a lot. The org only has negative reputation in the market and they don't seem to be doing anything to help that.

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when will vlr realise that wtv ppl say here, it ain't that deep. it isn't much of a hate but a troll you probably don't see it this way since you are a supporter and from the same country.
full-fledging hate? no one cares enough to go that far here. from a 3rd person who isn't even from apac, its not that deep and hateful

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Denjisideals

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I am not a supporter of GE. I don't think it's a good org.
Secondly, I am not talking about vlr. Look at the messages Polvi and everyone else is getting brother. Also on every streams. You join the stream at the start of ang GE match, you will see it since later on they either go away or the mods remove them.

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DeluluGavin

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well putting it here in vlr isn't going to change much. How are we supposed to know the messages they are getting? Most users in these time are from Americas and EMEA. Gotta make it more clear because if you post it in vlr without much context, obviously ppl will think its vlr stuff

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Denjisideals

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There is no context here. I am not even defending them here. But do I think fans asking the players to unalive themselves is bad? Yes. Oh but they don't mean it. Still a dick move to say that to someone regardless if it's Polvi or Tenz or Demon1 or anyone else.
Do I think the fans saying all the shit they are is bad? Yes.
That was my entire point, trying to understand why they get the hate that they do. That's all I wrote.
Also it was in general discussion, I just wanted to know the whole picture here.

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DeluluGavin

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you don't get what i was trying to say. When I say its not that deep, I meant it for the stuff being posted in vlr. When I said you need more context, it means you need to clarify that they are getting unnecessary hate in the streams and messages.

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what's the regional tournaments looking like now?

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I dislike them for ruining t3xture career

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ABhi

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Fuck u mean ruin they made his career

Chances are nobody else picks texture in 2023

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kamisavitar

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T3xture was in contract jail by DW in 2022, GE got him out + he did pretty well in 2023 too

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you should actually thank them, t3x was in contract jail in tier 2. He would have never made it into tier 1 if Ge didn't get him out

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I thought is was more the culture of the fans. Everyone supporting them was convinced their team would clear and was just blatantly disrespectful to every single other team. So I've just always felt the team and culture had a bad rep

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shit owner shit org not much the players can do

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They genuinley had a shot at being near the top of apac last year, Ayrin was actually a really good igl, monyet and texture were and are crazy good, LF is also looking really good rn. Imagine the roster with
Texture-duelist
Monyet-flex
Ayrin-initator igl
LF-smokes
Bazzi-Senti

They actually could have been really good, not as good as drx/prx but maybe around t1 level

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and they were getting shitted even having some op like texture and monyet which shows how bad team managment was or maybe coach
how is it possible a guy changes his team and suddenly becomes best duelist of Apac (atleast in kickoff)

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fraud coaches make even top player no.1 loser.that's it . ge likes playing family-opera in esports. these team do not succeed.

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I think it's that very statement that enraged a lot of people.
Because anyways you're importing 4 players and the results still aren't reflecting so the whole narrative that India lacks the talent turns to dust as to counter that you bring in imports and it isn't working either.
Me personally I don't hate the players but I honestly understand the hate for them and for the org.

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Curry, LightningFast, FNS, Marved, and TenZ would be best all indian team

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GE is also damaging their reputation, where very few pacific t1 players would want to join their roster in future.

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Denjisideals

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Ye. Plus it's a poverty franchise. So even if they get players, chances are high they gonna get poached by a bigger team the next season if GE doesn't perform

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allat

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Shadow_Monarch

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I still have no idea wtf Global Esports is and how big it is in India, but neither care to look it up and research it.
Thanks for some insight.
Imo, not that it matters, they should just invest and hire Demon1 for one full month and have him aim train all the Val pros in India. It'll make some difference.

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Very few in India watch Valorant and amongst them too only a percentage follows GE. They have also lost fans in India due to all the "We are the org of India" bait he does. Mfs in India hate GE way more than y'all do lmao 😹

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Pushindra is master mind he's just taking all the franchise money for himself