Hi, so I've been working on this little thread covering an hypothetical VAL World Cup, covering most countries represented in VCT
https://twitter.com/babygulino/status/1779282014929051816
Hope you enjoy it and please tell me what you think :)
Update:
Forgot to add Singapore
thenutoriousPRO [#2]really good work, havent seen all the teams but looks really clean
Thanks! I spent most of my time in the graphics lol
babybob [#5]I was thinking about it, but I think that Dep is overall better + has more experience winning
double duelist goes crazy is all im gonna say
Warlordwibz [#8]16 Europe, 12 Asia, 6 Americas
Why 34? I know one of the rule is don't take it too seriously, but 32 is the perfect amount.
Trying to make as most countries as possible, It was originally 32 but I didn't want to let Team Balkans and Baltics out
babybob [#9]Trying to make as most countries as possible, It was originally 32 but I didn't want to let Team Balkans and Baltics out
Also I had this unwritten rule of including every country that had one representative in VCT historically if possible (Unfortunately, countries like Ukraine, Morocco, Norway, Kazakhstan, Malaysia, and others, didn't have a large enough number of pro players to make a reliable roster, so that's partly why I deciced to make region-based teams like the Baltics or Balkans)
kanyefan4238173 [#11]Also I think the coaches should be from any nationality. For the roster building I think including a national coach is cool but for the actual tournament I think any country should be able to have any coach
Yeah, it was really tricky, especially for Czechia, Poland and Hong Kong. I thought the same but I wanted to keep it as national as possible
really cool idea but some of the player choices are off a bit. Marved would be smokes for Canada with Tenz flex. ardiis would probably be the UKs flex cause he grew up here (unless you think he would choose to represent Latvia then fair enough) and mistic would probably be there instead of soulcas. Also boostio would probably be USAs sentinel and igl instead of victor. But still really cool idea and would be hype to see
nooomy [#17]really cool idea but some of the player choices are off a bit. Marved would be smokes for Canada with Tenz flex. ardiis would probably be the UKs flex cause he grew up here (unless you think he would choose to represent Latvia then fair enough) and mistic would probably be there instead of soulcas. Also boostio would probably be USAs sentinel and igl instead of victor. But still really cool idea and would be hype to see
no fns igl
LeviaT [#21]Team Singapore is missing but doesn't matter cuz everyone else sucks except jinggg
Team Singapore
Jingg
Jinggg clone 1
Jinggg clone 2
Jinggg clone 3
Jinggg clone 4
coach:
Jinggg clone 5
nooomy [#17]really cool idea but some of the player choices are off a bit. Marved would be smokes for Canada with Tenz flex. ardiis would probably be the UKs flex cause he grew up here (unless you think he would choose to represent Latvia then fair enough) and mistic would probably be there instead of soulcas. Also boostio would probably be USAs sentinel and igl instead of victor. But still really cool idea and would be hype to see
The easier answer for Canada would have been Marved in smokes, TenZ in flex and FNS in sentinel as the IGL, but I honestly think TenZ is not that good as flex. You have 3 players with similar roles and I'm not really sure if they could mix that well. I think going for a more firepower based team is the best approach. Marved doesn't perform well when not playing with controller, the same goes for TenZ, and FNS generally doesn't perform individually either. Since FNS has only played with Chet and Crashies as the second caller, I don't really know how he would develop on this team, he has always said that he doesn't like playing on teams that he has no control over. FNS>Zander in IGLing, but Zander fits better on this team. Mistic was in the original draft, but mostly overlapped with Boaster in that controller role. Boostio is a really great IGL, but Ethan is showing off the work NRG is doing, Boostio could have easily been on the team.
0fcuZ [#25]-zander
+Marved
-zekken
+Demon1
Marved can't IGL and overlaps with TenZ in the controller role. And Demon1>Zekken could happen, they are close players in skill, but Zekken is more flexible
smthlikeyou11 [#16]alecks coach france
PRX HC coaching in an EMEA team? Seems like Happy is a much better fit for a team with M8, KC and TL players to me
Liem [#29]Click
I mean... I guess? Click is probably the best German playing in EMEA, but Guard Tex in that duelist was really something else. If Tex sticks to that Sentinel role, then yeah, Click would definitely take over in that duelist role
MagicSpecies [#31]amazing list...but ig it would be better to have LF as controller instead of Kohli
Currently, sure. This list was made when GE was getting absolutely shit on. LF is an ok player, but he lacks a lot of consistency, sometimes he plays like the best player in the team, and other times he plays worse than Polvi
LeviaT [#21]Team Singapore is missing but doesn't matter cuz everyone else sucks except jinggg
https://twitter.com/baby_png/status/1779884963464138820
Fixed!
Psion [#35]Murica
-zellsis + boostio
-zekken + demon1
I get the Demon1 change, but I think that Zellsis is a non-negotiable asset. SEN wouldn't have won Kick-Off and Madrid without him (and johnqt)
babybob [#38]I get the Demon1 change, but I think that Zellsis is a non-negotiable asset. SEN wouldn't have won Kick-Off and Madrid without him (and johnqt)
EG wouldn't of won champs without boostio, boostio is a way better or at the very least more proven IGL than ethan or zellsis (whichever one u pick to IGL)
both give the team good vibes
Psion [#41]EG wouldn't of won champs without boostio, boostio is a way better or at the very least more proven IGL than ethan or zellsis (whichever one u pick to IGL)
both give the team good vibes
Fair enough I guess. USA has an amount of pros so big that you could do at least 3 rosters that could win a Valorant World Cup. I think that most of EG's success comes from Potter and (mainly) Demon1's monster performance. Remember that EG was a mid-table team before Demon1, but I'm not putting Boostio's IGLing in doubt. I think that any roster that has Sentinels, NRG or imported players can make it big in this kind of event
babybob [#42]Fair enough I guess. USA has an amount of pros so big that you could do at least 3 rosters that could win a Valorant World Cup. I think that most of EG's success comes from Potter and (mainly) Demon1's monster performance. Remember that EG was a mid-table team before Demon1, but I'm not putting Boostio's IGLing in doubt. I think that any roster that has Sentinels, NRG or imported players can make it big in this kind of event
demon1 was the solution because he could play jett more than anything(they literally didn't have a jett player before that)
Costofequity [#44]you turd really put autumn as korea coach and left out buzz lmfao
t3xture>buzz how is that turded
Costofequity [#46]buzz>meteor>t3xture
buzz > t3xture on all roles
buzz > t3xture currently on all roles
buzz > t3xture all time on duelist
t3xture > buzz currently on duelist
Costofequity [#46]buzz>meteor>t3xture
Also Korea was one of those in which I'm familiarized with the coaches, so I just put Autumn since I know him more as a coach
babybob [#48]Also Korea was one of those in which I'm familiarized with the coaches, so I just put Autumn since I know him more as a coach
ya autumn fkn plat player sure u know him u turd
Psion [#47]buzz > t3xture on all roles
buzz > t3xture currently on all roles
buzz > t3xture all time on duelist
t3xture > buzz currently on duelist
if buzz was on geng instead of t3xture they wouldve beat sen 3-2
if buzz was on geng instead of lakia they wouldve smacked sen 3-0
Costofequity [#49]ya autumn fkn plat player sure u know him u turd
Chill man, one of the rules of my WC is to not take it too seriously😭
babybob [#51]Chill man, one of the rules of my WC is to not take it too seriously😭
you not putting in buzz is a crime against korean valorant
dude is prolly the best player in KR
Costofequity [#53]you not putting in buzz is a crime against korean valorant
dude is prolly the best player in KR
Wait till GenG goes against DRX, Buzz extreme diffs t3xture, then you comeback to this thread and I'll say that you're right
babybob [#54]Wait till GenG goes against DRX, Buzz extreme diffs t3xture, then you comeback to this thread and I'll say that you're right
did u even watch DRX vs GenG last split
buzz was COOKING them, t3xture popped off that series too tho
J7z [#52]From the roster examples you lack of knowledge about some of the countries and that’s okay, the idea is very good tho still good job
Ye, covering 34 rosters is hard. I think it's the most obvious in APAC, where I went with the safest picks (for example Thailand, India, or Vietnam)
Costofequity [#55]did u even watch DRX vs GenG last split
buzz was COOKING them, t3xture popped off that series too tho
I think that having either of them is valid. Idk I just don't think that it's that crazy having t3xture over buzz, ideally you'd have both of them playing, but I don't think that Buzz is that reliable in other roles
babybob [#57]I think that having either of them is valid. Idk I just don't think that it's that crazy having t3xture over buzz, ideally you'd have both of them playing, but I don't think that Buzz is that reliable in other roles
brotha buzz is the best flex in KR alongside meteor
Costofequity [#58]brotha buzz is the best flex in KR alongside meteor
Let's agree to disagree, I'm not saying that he isn't, I just don't think that he fits on a team like that
babybob [#59]Let's agree to disagree, I'm not saying that he isn't, I just don't think that he fits on a team like that
btw id just remove stax, munchkin already igl
babybob [#33]I mean... I guess? Click is probably the best German playing in EMEA, but Guard Tex in that duelist was really something else. If Tex sticks to that Sentinel role, then yeah, Click would definitely take over in that duelist role
also musashi > benny imo
Costofequity [#60]btw id just remove stax, munchkin already igl
-stax
+buzz
Seems reasonable, I don't know how much better this would be though
babybob [#63]-stax
+buzz
Seems reasonable, I don't know how much better this would be though
bro look at that roster
munchkin
buzz
t3xture
meteor (or karon)
mako
that team would win world cup
Costofequity [#64]bro look at that roster
munchkin
buzz
t3xture
meteor (or karon)
makothat team would win world cup
I'll give you a W for this one, could work (I had Korea Top 1 either way :p)
geospliced [#62]This could just be me trippin but your jkuro pic might be one of Viva.
I honestly thought the same, since the only pic a have of him is a 300x300 pixelated mugshot, I couldn't really tell who he was since everyone in JDG uses glasses and have the same haircut, so I gambled💀
babybob [#66]I honestly thought the same, since the only pic a have of him is a 300x300 pixelated mugshot, I couldn't really tell who he was since everyone in JDG uses glasses and have the same haircut, so I gambled💀
You could search him up on google though there's a few pics of him.
sinkyourhead [#67]ini siapa yg kasih saran fidelwow wkkwwkwkwkwkw
I mean, who else would take the coach position? asteriskk? I barely even know him because he won the Indo league
babybob [#70]I mean, who else would take the coach position? asteriskk? I barely even know him because he won the Indo league
Severine. he was a coach, analyst, player, and IGL before ewok coming to ONIC G
Top4 World Cup Teams
Team Canada:
Tenz (Jett/Yoru)
Marved (Smokes)
Eeiu (Initiator)
Nismo (Raze/flex)
FNS (Senti/IGL)
Team USA:
Demon1 (Jett)
Jawgemo (Raze/flex)
Boostio (Senti/IGL)
Crashies (Initiator)
S0m (Smokes)
Team Brazil:
Aspas
Less
Sacy
Pancada
Cauanzin
(dont need IGL, they professional)
Team Korea:
Mako
Buzz/T3xture
Karon
Meteor
Munchkin (IGL)
(firepower and aim so good, roles wont matter)
Thoughts?
lucifer0922 [#74]You haven't researched enough, you mixed up some players nationality.
For example, Russ is from UK, not India. You should replace Lightningfast there.
Other than that, it looks good.
He's registered as Indian in the VCT visa no?
babybob [#75]He's registered as Indian in the VCT visa no?
Also, I established that I only count players that claim their nationality
xNolva [#77]yea you need to have fns and marved on team canada
Idk, NRG are saying that M80 are farming them in scrims. FNS hasn't played in a bit, so I think that going for a more firepower based team is the best approach for these kind of players.
luckypleb [#79]Philippines best player isn't there
Couldn't really fit Invy in the team since there wouldn't be any IGL
Shadow_Monarch [#73]Top4 World Cup Teams
Team Canada:
Tenz (Jett/Yoru)
Marved (Smokes)
Eeiu (Initiator)
Nismo (Raze/flex)
FNS (Senti/IGL)Team USA:
Demon1 (Jett)
Jawgemo (Raze/flex)
Boostio (Senti/IGL)
Crashies (Initiator)
S0m (Smokes)Team Brazil:
Aspas
Less
Sacy
Pancada
Cauanzin
(dont need IGL, they professional)Team Korea:
Mako
Buzz/T3xture
Karon
Meteor
Munchkin (IGL)
(firepower and aim so good, roles wont matter)Thoughts?
Mm idk man, team usa just isn't it for me
babybob [#76]Also, I established that I only count players that claim their nationality
Can you share your source, because as far as I see on his VLR page and other websites there is UK flag.
lucifer0922 [#82]Can you share your source, because as far as I see on his VLR page and other websites there is UK flag.
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Russ description and also watch the announcement, GE present him as Indian. And also, you can't have 2 imports in the same team, so it would be impossible for him or polvi to be in GE if Russ wasnt Indian. https://twitter.com/GlobalEsportsIn/status/1704480961830989928 so errmm yeah I think I did enough research🤓
babybob [#40]Who IGLs?
Since Invy cannot be added (as 3 TS members are there), - JessieVash + Emman (NAOS) both IGLs but Emman is much flexible with other initiator agents. But JessieVash is much experienced.
babybob [#83]https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Russ description and also watch the announcement, GE present him as Indian. And also, you can't have 2 imports in the same team, so it would be impossible for him or polvi to be in GE if Russ wasnt Indian. https://twitter.com/GlobalEsportsIn/status/1704480961830989928 so errmm yeah I think I did enough research🤓
your 1st source still doesn't mention Russ as Indian; it says British of Indian descent. But then I saw the twitter post and your reasoning for the 2 imports which made sense. Thanks for letting me know!
lucifer0922 [#86]your 1st source still doesn't mention Russ as Indian; it says British of Indian descent. But then I saw the twitter post and your reasoning for the 2 imports which made sense. Thanks for letting me know!
If he doesn't count as an import for Vct Pacific then it should count as Indian for this bro
smthlikeyou11 [#16]alecks coach france
That's like saying fns is Indian or s0m is Korean, true but in this context it's 100% refutable
Shadow_Monarch [#73]Top4 World Cup Teams
Team Canada:
Tenz (Jett/Yoru)
Marved (Smokes)
Eeiu (Initiator)
Nismo (Raze/flex)
FNS (Senti/IGL)Team USA:
Demon1 (Jett)
Jawgemo (Raze/flex)
Boostio (Senti/IGL)
Crashies (Initiator)
S0m (Smokes)Team Brazil:
Aspas
Less
Sacy
Pancada
Cauanzin
(dont need IGL, they professional)Team Korea:
Mako
Buzz/T3xture
Karon
Meteor
Munchkin (IGL)
(firepower and aim so good, roles wont matter)Thoughts?
I don't trust Brazil because Saadhak is missing.
lucifer0922 [#86]your 1st source still doesn't mention Russ as Indian; it says British of Indian descent. But then I saw the twitter post and your reasoning for the 2 imports which made sense. Thanks for letting me know!
no problemo
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