https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43c1EV1lj04
i hate how braveaf was let go from fnatic
just becus of that controversy which braveaf did nothing wrong
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Meowmeowkitty [#3]What controversy?
he supported russia well at least people thought i dont know the full details but he wasnt saying anything extreme and it was in his dms im 90% sure someone leaked
Al-Mawsil [#5]he supported russia well at least people thought i dont know the full details but he wasnt saying anything extreme and it was in his dms im 90% sure someone leaked
silence people for being right thats what the west does right ? freedom right ?
frappzlul [#4]-braveaf +Enzo was such a upgrade sry bro
when a budda lying but you listening anyway
Froggy0_0 [#6]silence people for being right thats what the west does right ? freedom right ?
murica distributes 'freedom' and 'free speech' and 'happiness'
frappzlul [#4]-braveaf +Enzo was such a upgrade sry bro
nope. Alfajer from MAGNUM was the real upgrade.
StyrofoamOne [#8]murica distributes 'freedom' and 'free speech' and 'happiness'
downvoted for being right . damn these people are brainwashed
Froggy0_0 [#6]silence people for being right thats what the west does right ? freedom right ?
Nah I'm pretty sure what he said was factually wrong iirc but no one should be benched for private conversation and even less if it's not valorant related or even anything illegal
Mortadelo [#12]Nah I'm pretty sure what he said was factually wrong iirc but no one should be benched for private conversation and even less if it's not valorant related or even anything illegal
exactly, I bet some pros dont support lgbtq however they are silent about it out of respect for the western culture of valorant. But if someone leaks their dms about their non support theyd get cancelled immediately like braveaf. He wasnt pushing idelogies into the public and had his own private opinion it was dogs that leaked it and made him get canclled.
Al-Mawsil [#16]exactly, I bet some pros dont support lgbtq however they are silent about it out of respect for the western culture of valorant. But if someone leaks their dms about their non support theyd get cancelled immediately like braveaf. He wasnt pushing idelogies into the public and had his own private opinion it was dogs that leaked it and made him get canclled.
true
Al-Mawsil [#16]exactly, I bet some pros dont support lgbtq however they are silent about it out of respect for the western culture of valorant. But if someone leaks their dms about their non support theyd get cancelled immediately like braveaf. He wasnt pushing idelogies into the public and had his own private opinion it was dogs that leaked it and made him get canclled.
Yes, and I just found his explanation on twitter and it was reasonable af, they did him dirty for sure
https://twitter.com/braveaff/status/1509249334696685588?s=20&t=_u4qzubsxqWaYVRxjVTgVg
Mortadelo [#18]Yes, and I just found his explanation on twitter and it was reasonable af, they did him dirty for sure
https://twitter.com/braveaff/status/1509249334696685588?s=20&t=_u4qzubsxqWaYVRxjVTgVg
so .... he got played bad , damn bro got his career ruined
Froggy0_0 [#19]so .... he got played bad , damn bro got his career ruined
Well tbf he was mid af after he left FNC, but yes, he got robbed of that opportunity for no reason
Al-Mawsil [#5]he supported russia well at least people thought i dont know the full details but he wasnt saying anything extreme and it was in his dms im 90% sure someone leaked
bro got sinatraa'd but doesn't have the godlike charisma to save his career
Emmy_TOF [#24]he stand with his nation
he said just what propaganda said the first days to his female friend from that country to support her. she was mad at him and leaked dms
AVE_TRUE_TO_CAESAR [#21]bro got sinatraa'd but doesn't have the godlike charisma to save his career
sintraa had alot of fans not charisma, brave got no clout/loyal fans.
Miting [#22]HOW?
FNC vs M3C elimination game for rejkevik Map 3 split overtime d3ffo 0.1 fail to diffuse and didnt qualify
chloeburbank [#31]FNC vs M3C elimination game for rejkevik Map 3 split overtime d3ffo 0.1 fail to diffuse and didnt qualify
0,02 sec. But it's a game moment. but i got what you mean
whitebeans [#34]support what you will. say what you will. do what you want. but you cannot in writting or on video do stuff thats against societies rules without facing consequences as a PUBLIC FIGURE. The war is still going on and he was kicked YEARS ago. FNC took the correct stance by kicking him.
He just wrote his opinion in private chat, he never even tried to call for it in public, a cringe Ukrainian girl just leaked their conversation.
khayso [#36]I dont feel bad for him at all
Toxic ego kid on ranked flamed me while he was bottom fragging, also russian imperialist
Glad hes out
no way you tried to sneak in that you're radiant cmon
LOL it was not "nothing wrong"
He supported the aggressor, the one who kills, murders, and rapes people of the girl's nation he was talking with.
Of course, it made her react.
No wonder your people do not understand it, as you are far from the values of normal people who understand that it's not OK to attack another country just because you think you can.
And this is what an idiotic "out of politics" position can do to a person. Maybe Braveaf is a nice guy, IDK, but his views on things were a result of the culture around him which made him think that really evil things are normal. That's why you gotta educate yourself and think critically, learn things around you and history especially. It will help you stay out of trouble, especially in the modern world.
This "out of politics" position is made to fool and manipulate people. While politics is everywhere you want it or not, and it's something that influences your life.
Be clever and support good things, respect other nations, and don't be scared to speak about evil things. This is how you fight on the good side, not the other one. Evil only rises in silence and ignorance.
Froggy0_0 [#6]silence people for being right thats what the west does right ? freedom right ?
zetnik chill out
Johnta [#39]LOL it was not "nothing wrong"
He supported the aggressor, the one who kills, murders, and rapes people of the girl's nation he was talking with.
Of course, it made her react.No wonder your people do not understand it, as you are far from the values of normal people who understand that it's not OK to attack another country just because you think you can.
And this is what an idiotic "out of politics" position can do to a person. Maybe Braveaf is a nice guy, IDK, but his views on things were a result of the culture around him which made him think that really evil things are normal. That's why you gotta educate yourself and think critically, learn things around you and history especially. It will help you stay out of trouble, especially in the modern world.This "out of politics" position is made to fool and manipulate people. While politics is everywhere you want it or not, and it's something that influences your life.
Be clever and support good things, respect other nations, and don't be scared to speak about evil things. This is how you fight on the good side, not the other one. Evil only rises in silence and ignorance.
You could say the same to US
AVE_TRUE_TO_CAESAR [#21]bro got sinatraa'd but doesn't have the godlike charisma to save his career
Little boy claims wet paper bag that screams for comedy and talks like a toad is in his throat has charisma
Johnta [#39]LOL it was not "nothing wrong"
He supported the aggressor, the one who kills, murders, and rapes people of the girl's nation he was talking with.
Of course, it made her react.No wonder your people do not understand it, as you are far from the values of normal people who understand that it's not OK to attack another country just because you think you can.
And this is what an idiotic "out of politics" position can do to a person. Maybe Braveaf is a nice guy, IDK, but his views on things were a result of the culture around him which made him think that really evil things are normal. That's why you gotta educate yourself and think critically, learn things around you and history especially. It will help you stay out of trouble, especially in the modern world.This "out of politics" position is made to fool and manipulate people. While politics is everywhere you want it or not, and it's something that influences your life.
Be clever and support good things, respect other nations, and don't be scared to speak about evil things. This is how you fight on the good side, not the other one. Evil only rises in silence and ignorance.
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Sikul [#41]You could say the same to US
how do wrongdoings of us
justify
wrongdoings of russia?
you tell me.
these are 2 separate conversations, and in this one russia is nowhere near being right.
Johnta [#39]LOL it was not "nothing wrong"
He supported the aggressor, the one who kills, murders, and rapes people of the girl's nation he was talking with.
Of course, it made her react.No wonder your people do not understand it, as you are far from the values of normal people who understand that it's not OK to attack another country just because you think you can.
And this is what an idiotic "out of politics" position can do to a person. Maybe Braveaf is a nice guy, IDK, but his views on things were a result of the culture around him which made him think that really evil things are normal. That's why you gotta educate yourself and think critically, learn things around you and history especially. It will help you stay out of trouble, especially in the modern world.This "out of politics" position is made to fool and manipulate people. While politics is everywhere you want it or not, and it's something that influences your life.
Be clever and support good things, respect other nations, and don't be scared to speak about evil things. This is how you fight on the good side, not the other one. Evil only rises in silence and ignorance.
His "crime" was repeating a states propaganda while discussing it with a girl in a private text chat. Yes the issue was a young adult repeated something the media was telling him right after (24th Feb) the war started.
That was the weakest kind of "support" you can think of and for any normal and less horrific topic the conversation would have continued until both understood each others position and BraveAF would have been made aware that his media was pushing an untrue agenda and that his comment was incredibly insensitive.
It really wasnt hard to convince brave either since he made an apology post saying how he wasnt well informed right after the shit hit the fan and that he didnt want the war to continue.
The point isnt that hes an angel or anything, the whole thing was def fucked up to say to someone whos country currently getting invaded, but you shouldnt blow this out of proportion and make it into something it quite simply wasnt.
Sikul [#41]You could say the same to US
Actually not.
US international policies and Russia's are very different.
Many things the US did were not good at all, but the reason for it was to protect the good values of our world. The way they did things, was not that good though. They made tons of mistakes.
But when Russian aggression happened in multiple places for many decades, it was not for the good things at all. It was always to make things worse for people and get political control, creating destabilization.
Also, they support a lot of destabilization movements in many countries just to make things worse for people and gain a macropolitical advantage.
Pure evil.
Targu1n [#46]His "crime" was repeating a states propaganda while discussing it with a girl in a private text chat. Yes the issue was a young adult repeated something the media was telling him right after (24th Feb) the war started.
That was the weakest kind of "support" you can think of and for any normal and less horrific topic the conversation would have continued until both understood each others position and BraveAF would have been made aware that his media was pushing an untrue agenda and that his comment was incredibly insensitive.
It really wasnt hard to convince brave either since he made an apology post saying how he wasnt well informed right after the shit hit the fan and that he didnt want the war to continue.The point isnt that hes an angel or anything, the whole thing was def fucked up to say to someone whos country currently getting invaded, but you shouldnt blow this out of proportion and make it into something it quite simply wasnt.
I agree with you on some points.
That's why I wrote that it's important to learn things and understand what you stand for if you are for the good.
I even feel a little bad for those russian kids who are raised and taught in that horrible culture. But in a modern world, there are plenty of ways to learn things and only a person himself is responsible for the values he cherishes. Especially if you travel, see the world, can talk to people from other countries and cultures.
Johnta [#39]LOL it was not "nothing wrong"
He supported the aggressor, the one who kills, murders, and rapes people of the girl's nation he was talking with.
Of course, it made her react.No wonder your people do not understand it, as you are far from the values of normal people who understand that it's not OK to attack another country just because you think you can.
And this is what an idiotic "out of politics" position can do to a person. Maybe Braveaf is a nice guy, IDK, but his views on things were a result of the culture around him which made him think that really evil things are normal. That's why you gotta educate yourself and think critically, learn things around you and history especially. It will help you stay out of trouble, especially in the modern world.This "out of politics" position is made to fool and manipulate people. While politics is everywhere you want it or not, and it's something that influences your life.
Be clever and support good things, respect other nations, and don't be scared to speak about evil things. This is how you fight on the good side, not the other one. Evil only rises in silence and ignorance.
You are a hypocrite, all your words mean nothing.
Johnta [#47]Actually not.
US international policies and Russia's are very different.
Many things the US did were not good at all, but the reason for it was to protect the good values of our world. The way they did things, was not that good though. They made tons of mistakes.
But when Russian aggression happened in multiple places for many decades, it was not for the good things at all. It was always to make things worse for people and get political control, creating destabilization.
Also, they support a lot of destabilization movements in many countries just to make things worse for people and gain a macropolitical advantage.
Pure evil.
Like their policies on Palestine right now?
Sikul [#51]Like their policies on Palestine right now?
OOOOO NO POLITICS POLITICS ALERT i agree though russia and USA are different sides of the same coin. its just that the US is better at hiding their crimes.
Mortadelo [#18]Yes, and I just found his explanation on twitter and it was reasonable af, they did him dirty for sure
https://twitter.com/braveaff/status/1509249334696685588?s=20&t=_u4qzubsxqWaYVRxjVTgVg
The amount of effort put to become a valorant pro and you get this instead 🤡
Sikul [#51]Like their policies on Palestine right now?
It's a complicated topic that is full of propaganda built on the hate of one nation for another which is horrible.
IDK the US stands on it. But I assume they stand against Hamas who works together with Iran and Russia building an axis of evil in a modern world.
Btw, Ukraine supports the two-state solution and condemns the attacks on Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
avenger50000 [#50]You are a hypocrite, all your words mean nothing.
hes trying to get sympathy as usual
MrShadow [#54]correct me if I'm wrong but fnatic mentioned that the decision was made not because of the controversy solely, but also due to the visa issues that can happen for future events
But are we sure that visa is the problem?
Johnta [#55]It's a complicated topic that is full of propaganda built on the hate of one nation for another which is horrible.
IDK the US stands on it. But I assume they stand against Hamas who works together with Iran and Russia building an axis of evil in a modern world.
Btw, Ukraine supports the two-state solution and condemns the attacks on Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
wtf is the axis of evil when all of them are just together Because US sanction them
Typer [#58]But are we sure that visa is the problem?
I mean so many individuals got f'ed up with that. fnatic always had at least one problem at every event. so the decision from the org is okay. not for braveaf tho
MrShadow [#60]I mean so many individuals got f'ed up with that. fnatic always had at least one problem at every event. so the decision from the org is okay. not for braveaf tho
Oh thanks idk all these
Sikul [#59]wtf is the axis of evil when all of them are just together Because US sanction them
Sanction them for what, how do you think?
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