These players have been exceptionally good and consistent in their career making them the 3 best players in the World
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zekken? seriously? + if we are really talking about GOAT (game is too young to consider who the goat is), having international trophy should be a must, unless we pick the best from each role.
come at me SEN fanboys, I stand by my word. Zekken is a great player but not even close to being considered the BEST ITW
0fcuZ [#4]2 players with no international trophy
Recency bias is unreal...
forsaken has been 2nd two times and 4th as well, has been the best flex since beggining of 2023, zekken has looked insane since 2022 and has been crazy consistent, how is this recency bias
KochamSmakKoziejSpermy [#7]forsaken has been 2nd two times and 4th as well, has been the best flex since beggining of 2023, zekken has looked insane since 2022 and has been crazy consistent, how is this recency bias
zekken looked insane but his int placement lacks merit compared to other players not mentioned here. His potential/raw aim? sure he is insane, I'm not going to lie.
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F0rsaken
lmaooo y'all throw that goat word around too easily
You cannot be a goat with 0 anything.
you have to ATLEAST, win a masters to be somewhat in that conversation, then you put less over aspas…..
IF ANYTHING these would be Top 3
Aspas, Bros been dominate ( best player on his champs team ) still doing it after
TenZ , Even if i’m a sen fan this guy was a early pioneer and still has the best tournament we have ever seen regardless of early valorant and looking back in form ( more org issues then player issues for his downfall )
Leo or Alfa - I’d say one of these 2 because, i mean they won back to back never been done before, only thing that is somewhat holding them back is they can’t win champs womp womp, but alfa just turned 18 and has 2 championships under his name i actually think he could honestly win one two or 3 more before he’s 21….. ( usual fall off point )
Shawn23 [#9]Zekken
F0rsakenlmaooo y'all throw that goat word around too easily
You cannot be a goat with 0 anything.you have to ATLEAST, win a masters to be somewhat in that conversation, then you put less over aspas…..
IF ANYTHING these would be Top 3
Aspas, Bros been dominate ( best player on his champs team ) still doing it after
TenZ , Even if i’m a sen fan this guy was a early pioneer and still has the best tournament we have ever seen regardless of early valorant and looking back in form ( more org issues then player issues for his downfall )
Leo or Alfa - I’d say one of these 2 because, i mean they won back to back never been done before, only thing that is somewhat holding them back is they can’t win champs womp womp, but alfa just turned 18 and has 2 championships under his name i actually think he could honestly win one two or 3 more before he’s 21….. ( usual fall off point )
I think TenZ could be there if he does insanely well in playoffs (because he had a pretty long time sitting out on international events and his shots too), I would say Alfa has a higher chance of being GOAT compared to Leo, simply because I think once his game sense and style matures he'll be even better player
DeluluGavin [#10]I think TenZ could be there if he does insanely well in playoffs (because he had a pretty long time sitting out on international events and his shots too), I would say Alfa has a higher chance of being GOAT compared to Leo, simply because I think once his game sense and style matures he'll be even better player
Yeah i agree with the Alfa I actually believe bro has the highest ceiling in valorant rn
hopefully get to see him back on raze one day
Shawn23 [#11]Yeah i agree with the Alfa I actually believe bro has the highest ceiling in valorant rn
hopefully get to see him back on raze one day
Yknow talking about tenz, if SEN had a clearer picture during chamber meta and the mix of roles they tried, I feel like Tenz could have been rated higher.
DeluluGavin [#12]Yknow talking about tenz, if SEN had a clearer picture during chamber meta and the mix of roles they tried, I feel like Tenz could have been rated higher.
tell me about it, watching that whole 2022 and not seeing a single game of tenz on a chamber really pissed me off, like every other week watching them switch Shazam, Kanpeki, Dapr to chamber when they honestly had tenz right there was so frustrating but i knew when they kept trying to get rawkus over and over that team wasn’t serious about winning a SINGLE thing.
even LCQ Chamber tenz looked nice on it even tho he was sick as shit most of the games they played
0fcuZ [#4]2 players with no international trophy
Recency bias is unreal...
there is no recency bias for f0rsaken. International trophy does not mean as much as you think, we are also talking about individual players, not their team...
Shawn23 [#9]Zekken
F0rsakenlmaooo y'all throw that goat word around too easily
You cannot be a goat with 0 anything.you have to ATLEAST, win a masters to be somewhat in that conversation, then you put less over aspas…..
IF ANYTHING these would be Top 3
Aspas, Bros been dominate ( best player on his champs team ) still doing it after
TenZ , Even if i’m a sen fan this guy was a early pioneer and still has the best tournament we have ever seen regardless of early valorant and looking back in form ( more org issues then player issues for his downfall )
Leo or Alfa - I’d say one of these 2 because, i mean they won back to back never been done before, only thing that is somewhat holding them back is they can’t win champs womp womp, but alfa just turned 18 and has 2 championships under his name i actually think he could honestly win one two or 3 more before he’s 21….. ( usual fall off point )
forsaken is very very valid I really cant understand what you mean
Shawn23 [#13]tell me about it, watching that whole 2022 and not seeing a single game of tenz on a chamber really pissed me off, like every other week watching them switch Shazam, Kanpeki, Dapr to chamber when they honestly had tenz right there was so frustrating but i knew when they kept trying to get rawkus over and over that team wasn’t serious about winning a SINGLE thing.
even LCQ Chamber tenz looked nice on it even tho he was sick as shit most of the games they played
tenz and zellsis carried hard in lcq. chamber suits tenz play style the best because he can op and shit but doesnt have to entry and i guarantee if chamber was meta in 2023 sentinels would be one of the best teams itw because the team was centered around that
Conut [#16]forsaken is very very valid I really cant understand what you mean
how can you label someone the Greatest of All Time and they never won anything? Yes he’s a very skill and multiple agent player but He’s not the GREATEST if he’s never won a single event….
Shawn23 [#19]how can you label someone the Greatest of All Time and they never won anything? Yes he’s a very skill and multiple agent player but He’s not the GREATEST if he’s never won a single event….
“Contender”
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#20]“Contender”
damn bro my fault , bro shouldn’t even be considered a top 5 “ Contender “ maybe top 10 or 15
Shawn23 [#21]damn bro my fault , bro shouldn’t even be considered a top 5 “ Contender “ maybe top 10 or 15
I’m pretty sure f0rsakeN is a top 5 contender for GOAT status. International Trophies shouldn’t exactly translate as GOAT status, but rather a partial merit.
DeluluGavin [#6]zekken? seriously? + if we are really talking about GOAT (game is too young to consider who the goat is), having international trophy should be a must, unless we pick the best from each role.
come at me SEN fanboys, I stand by my word. Zekken is a great player but not even close to being considered the BEST ITW
he’s literally diffing every duelist player lol
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#22]I’m pretty sure f0rsakeN is a top 5 contender for GOAT status. International Trophies shouldn’t exactly translate as GOAT status, but rather a partial merit.
?….. Have you seen NBA Goat List ? Lebron, MJ, Kareem. What they all got in common outside of Skill? Multiple Championships. being a goat is split into skill and championship dna, what’s forsaken missing ? championship DNA
he’s putting multiple hours day into scrimming to win a event, that’s the whole purpose
no championship = shouldn’t be in goat talks.
TheAceGamer30 [#23]he’s literally diffing every duelist player lol
notice how the title says "GOAT contender". Longevity (especially in international events with good personal and team results) and high skill level. Zekken ticks the latter no doubt, but to be in consideration as a GOAT? He has 1 domestic title and 0 top 6 finishes in int tournament if I'm not wrong. If diffing every duelist was a priority, demon1, aspas, and yay should already be in contention too
Shawn23 [#24]?….. Have you seen NBA Goat List ? Lebron, MJ, Kareem. What they all got in common outside of Skill? Multiple Championships. being a goat is split into skill and championship dna, what’s forsaken missing ? championship DNA
he’s putting multiple hours day into scrimming to win a event, that’s the whole purpose
no championship = shouldn’t be in goat talks.
I think Forsaken is in the top 10, even though he doesn't have a trophy, his consistency is absurd and in Valorant it's extremely difficult to be consistent, almost all champions fall
But I don't think it's top 5
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Chronicle
Saadhak
Aspas
they are all in front of him
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#22]I’m pretty sure f0rsakeN is a top 5 contender for GOAT status. International Trophies shouldn’t exactly translate as GOAT status, but rather a partial merit.
International trophies SHOULD be one of the main focus. How can someone be GOAT if they have zero major? Chronicle has won 2 masters and lock//in with 2nd place in champs but according to your logic, forsaken can be contender along with chronicle?
DeluluGavin [#28]International trophies SHOULD be one of the main focus. How can someone be GOAT if they have zero major? Chronicle has won 2 masters and lock//in with 2nd place in champs but according to your logic, forsaken can be contender along with chronicle?
Winning trophies does not make you a better player. Chronicle had 0 mvps in any of the tournaments he won, but he is the goat over Shao, Demon1, or Aspas? Three trophies, to which he wasn’t even the best player.
Individual achievements > Trophies
DeluluGavin [#25]notice how the title says "GOAT contender". Longevity (especially in international events with good personal and team results) and high skill level. Zekken ticks the latter no doubt, but to be in consideration as a GOAT? He has 1 domestic title and 0 top 6 finishes in int tournament if I'm not wrong. If diffing every duelist was a priority, demon1, aspas, and yay should already be in contention too
Aren’t they not?
Karmine_Org_WhispeR [#30]Winning trophies does not make you a better player. Chronicle had 0 mvps in any of the tournaments he won, but he is the goat over Shao, Demon1, or Aspas? Three trophies, to which he wasn’t even the best player.
Individual achievements > Trophies
but he is the goat over Shao, Demon1, or Aspas?
idk if you are saying that he is or isn't over them but chronicle is definitely above demon1 and shao. Why is demon1 even here? if you had put in less, it would be more convincing. also, mvps matter but using your logic, kiles > chronicle in terms of individual achievement??? Chronicle is a great flex support player who has been paramount in the 5 international tournaments he took part in, especially in all tournaments except champs 2023.
tldr: individual achievements are important but it doesn't mean that int trophies can be overlooked
TheAceGamer30 [#35]Aren’t they not?
demon1 is not. aspas and yay maybe but they have carried and showed immense firepower throughout the entire season, yay from late 2021 until end of 2022. Aspas from 2022-early 2023 and champs 2023.
what I'm saying is that zekken has quality, but its way too early considering that he hasn't won/placed top 3 in any int. tourney or achieved anything individually.
DeluluGavin [#37]demon1 is not. aspas and yay maybe but they have carried and showed immense firepower throughout the entire season, yay from late 2021 until end of 2022. Aspas from 2022-early 2023 and champs 2023.
what I'm saying is that zekken has quality, but its way too early considering that he hasn't won/placed top 3 in any int. tourney or achieved anything individually.
bro said y0y is a contender but not demon1 💀but yeah I agree with this
0fcuZ [#4]2 players with no international trophy
Recency bias is unreal...
Trophies arent equivalent to Individual Performance
Shawn23 [#19]how can you label someone the Greatest of All Time and they never won anything? Yes he’s a very skill and multiple agent player but He’s not the GREATEST if he’s never won a single event….
Because Im not labeling a team as the greatest, im talking about an individual
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