emea teams in madrid just have less experience than other teams
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Asuna_Yuuki [#2]The cope must end
EMEA is just inferior
No excuse as they played on LAN at kick off
erm well technically… th didnt 🤓
FireII [#4]erm well technically… th didnt 🤓
But it doesn’t make sense how they could be worse
How could a decrease in ping make you worse
Asuna_Yuuki [#2]The cope must end
EMEA is just inferior
No excuse as they played on LAN at kick off
Heretics didn't + play with a sub + play with Riens on his own.
Heretics is gonna become even better with Wo0t
I agree except this goes for every team regardless of region. This experience diff is the reason why I think EDG can muster a top 4 finish. Not because they are good but because they have played against some of the best international teams on Valorants biggest stage that when it comes to do or die moments they can easily do.
Asuna_Yuuki [#5]But it doesn’t make sense how they could be worse
How could a decrease in ping make you worse
TH did not play worse. PRX and SEN are just simply better.
Asuna_Yuuki [#5]But it doesn’t make sense how they could be worse
How could a decrease in ping make you worse
it didn't make them worse they just didn't have the experience on it and definitely not compared to teams like Sen and Prx that have insane amounts of experience.
Heretics could've won both of the series they played in 2-0 fashion but they crumbled in the high pressure situations if they can learn from this they will be a force in the future
fallwithtj [#7]I agree except this goes for every team regardless of region. This experience diff is the reason why I think EDG can muster a top 4 finish. Not because they are good but because they have played against some of the best international teams on Valorants biggest stage that when it comes to do or die moments they can easily do.
Experience gets so overlooked man it's insane
Fucking Loud the so called best roster of all time got 3-0'd by Optic while having 2 map bans because their players crumbled under the light whereas Optic had been under those lights as Envy (3-0 loss v Gambit).
Once Loud gained that experience and got reality checked the next masters they got back up to win Champions over that same team that 3-0 them and in 2 of those maps that hey won came in that grand final it came down to inches (the maps that they would've lost at masters because they lacked the experience)
Acend crumbled against 100T at masters a team with far more experience than them then came back in champions after some controversy to win the first champions.
EG got reality checked by Fnatic in Tokyo and with that experience under their belt they came into Champions prepared for anything and they damn won it.
Would not be surprised if a team like Heretics wins an international trophy this year
NioMS [#10]Experience gets so overlooked man it's insane
Fucking Loud the so called best roster of all time got 3-0'd by Optic while having 2 map bans because their players crumbled under the light whereas Optic had been under those lights as Envy (3-0 loss v Gambit).
Once Loud gained that experience and got reality checked the next masters they got back up to win Champions over that same team that 3-0 them and in 2 of those maps that hey won came in that grand final it came down to inches (the maps that they would've lost at masters because they lacked the experience)Acend crumbled against 100T at masters a team with far more experience than them then came back in champions after some controversy to win the first champions.
EG got reality checked by Fnatic in Tokyo and with that experience under their belt they came into Champions prepared for anything and they damn won it.
Would not be surprised if a team like Heretics wins an international trophy this year
wouldn't be a suprise if Heretics didn't qualify to Shanghai
Ausam [#12]Crazy how the experienced teams didn't even make the lan no?
Wow they lost a single BO3 my shock
NioMS [#14]Wow they lost a single BO3 my shock
yeah shouldn't have lost that one,thats what happens when u play worse.Its fine tho they got the whole year ahead to get better
Ausam [#15]yeah shouldn't have lost that one,thats what happens when u play worse.Its fine tho they got the whole year ahead to get better
Some of the most experienced cores lost in every single region
Optic core
Drx core
JDG (RA core)
Fnatic
NAVI
NioMS [#17]Some of the most experienced cores lost in every single region
Optic core
Drx core
JDG (RA core)
Fnatic
NAVI
yeah and that is fine bro.Teams have ups and downs,rn they are worse,but they can get better thats the point I am making.They have plenty of time.Enjoy the teams that are doing well rn thats just valorant.
Ausam [#15]yeah shouldn't have lost that one,thats what happens when u play worse.Its fine tho they got the whole year ahead to get better
even fns said that fnatic wasn't used to being down in emea, which most likely messed w their heads as they were constantly trying to close the gap. just bc you're experienced doesn't mean you can adapt to a situation you most likely never been in
Ausam [#19]yeah and that is fine bro.Teams have ups and downs,rn they are worse,but they can get better thats the point I am making.They have plenty of time.Enjoy the teams that are doing well rn thats just valorant.
Madrid would get called mickey mouse anyways if EMEA wins
I mean I'm gonna be pissed asf if Fnatic doesn't change their comps and the way they play like I really don't mind them not making Madrid as long as they can show their best for the rest of the year now
Time time time but Fnatic ain't using it seems
M7mdA13 [#18]Bro your team had LAN(ish) experience at KickOFF and are playing with most of the crowd on their side. In hindsight you got 2 very tough teams and couldn't close it, but don't say experience diff since GEN.G made it and they have a ranked demon turned T1 pro in Karon.
Nah international events are a whole new stage (some of the best of all time have crumbled there because of experience diff (Loud v Optic masters grand finals for example, Acend/Gambit v 100T, EG v Fnatic etc.)
Yeah Karon is a demon but Miniboo and Riens also played like demons but they just weren't on the winning team unfortunately
NioMS [#21]Madrid would get called mickey mouse anyways if EMEA wins
I mean I'm gonna be pissed asf if Fnatic doesn't change their comps and the way they play like I really don't mind them not making Madrid as long as they can show their best for the rest of the year now
Time time time but Fnatic ain't using it seems
idk bout mickey mouse,still a masters tourney.But fnatic is a good team,they just never experienced being down like that in a while.They will probably fix their mistakes and be a top team again dw.Its just the beginnig of the year.
M7mdA13 [#18]Bro your team had LAN(ish) experience at KickOFF and are playing with most of the crowd on their side. In hindsight you got 2 very tough teams and couldn't close it, but don't say experience diff since GEN.G made it and they have a ranked demon turned T1 pro in Karon.
how are you comnparing a single player to a whole team? miniboo performed good, so did benjy
NioMS [#22]Nah international events are a whole new stage (some of the best of all time have crumbled there because of experience diff (Loud v Optic masters grand finals for example, Acend/Gambit v 100T, EG v Fnatic etc.)
Yeah Karon is a demon but Miniboo and Riens also played like demons but they just weren't on the winning team unfortunately
u could say that about any new team.Which could be true,could be not,we dk the internals of a team.Idk why ur tryna make excuses bro.
Asuna_Yuuki [#2]The cope must end
EMEA is just inferior
No excuse as they played on LAN at kick off
TH looked dangerous with a sub, and first international nerves. They a great ass team with some amazing players, I would not b surprised if EMEA goes on a run at shanghai just cuz of how many rookies they have.
endless1 [#24]how are you comnparing a single player to a whole team? miniboo performed good, so did benjy
I'm not comparing a single player lol, all of GENG ( except munchkin last year, and meteor 21' ) haven't been to an international stage, and they went to playoffs flawlessly. TH just got ahead of themselves blowing leads stupidly 2 games in a row (up 7-1 against sen twice and split against prx). If regional playoffs were double bracket I don't think TH even makes it to madrid NAVI were mid as hell, Fnatic would've qualified.
M7mdA13 [#28]I'm not comparing a single player lol, all of GENG ( except munchkin last year, and meteor 21' ) haven't been to an international stage, and they went to playoffs flawlessly. TH just got ahead of themselves blowing leads stupidly 2 games in a row (up 7-1 against sen twice and split against prx). If regional playoffs were double bracket I don't think TH even makes it to madrid NAVI were mid as hell, Fnatic would've qualified.
literally everyone of geng except karon has been to an international lan, even if its been just one game.
endless1 [#29]literally everyone of geng except karon has been to an international lan, even if its been just one game.
If we're gonna Lock/IN for a single game as international experience, then this conversation is pointless have a good day.
M7mdA13 [#30]If we're gonna Lock/IN for a single game as international experience, then this conversation is pointless have a good day.
so you really think experiencing something you never have isn't useful? u sound stupid
endless1 [#31]so you really think experiencing something you never have isn't useful? u sound stupid
ok so since the 1 LOCK//IN game helped GENG.G's players so much, why didn't the game against SEN help TH against PRX. I mean by your logic TH's players would have the same INT experience as the GEN.G players coming into madrid. Stop making excuses lol, TH are just not there yet, and there is no shame in that. But saying "NO IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE EXPERIENCE" is such cope.
Rodu [#27]TH looked dangerous with a sub, and first international nerves. They a great ass team with some amazing players, I would not b surprised if EMEA goes on a run at shanghai just cuz of how many rookies they have.
You actually think w00t will make them insane
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