My Masters Madrid Player And Team Predictions

Today I thought id ruin all my future credibility on VLR by posting my masters Madrid predictions and getting them completely wrong, I'm gonna rank all the teams from 1-8 and then rank players by their role 1-8.

Starting off with the team ranking (if you want to know my reasoning for my decisions ill let you know down below)

Team Ranking
1-2 Karmine Corp
1-2 Sentinels
3rd LOUD
4th Gen.G
5th Team Heretics
6th Paper Rex
7th FPX
8th EDG

Now onto the player rankings, I will be ranking every player based on their role from 1-8 (note that the roles arent perfect due to overlap but i tried my best to fit everyone into their correct category)

Duelists Ranking
1st zekken
2nd t3xture
3rd marteen
4th Miniboo
5th Zmjjkk
6th Quick
7th Monyet
8th Autumn

Initiator Ranking:
1st N4RRATE
2nd cauanzin
3rd something
4th Sacy
5th nobody
6th RieNs
7th AAAAY
8th Lakia

Flex Ranking:
1st Forsaken
2nd Zellsis
3rd Life
4th Saadhak
5th Smoggy
6th MAGNUM
7th Munchkin
8th paTiTek

Controller Ranking:
1st Karon
2nd Tuyz
3rd sh1n
4th mindfreak
5th TenZ
6th Boo
7th BerLIN
8th Haodong

Sentinel Ranking:
1st Less
2nd d4v41
3rd benjyfishy
4th johnqt
5th CHICHOO
6th tomaszy
7th Meteor
8th Lysoar

IGL(Purely on igling)
1st Saadhak
2nd johnqt
3rd MAGNUM
4th Boo
5th Munchkin
6th Haodong
7th PRX Hivemind
8th BerLIN

Coaching
1st ENGH (ALLEZ LES BLEUUUUU)
2nd solo
3rd neilzinho
4th peu
5th alecks
6th kaplan
7th NathanD
8th AfteR

Be sure to ridicule and argue with my list, i like having discussions like this :D

wtf

John qt is a good sentinel player. Should be atleast top 3. Rest of the list I can live with.

How is Life even a flex? Never seen him played initiator

Tenz being that low is crazy I think he is below tuyz tuyz first and tenz 2nd. Also mindfreak over tenz is bad

life first ? hmm

TheAceGamer30 [#5]

Tenz being that low is crazy I think he is below tuyz tuyz first and tenz 2nd. Also mindfreak over tenz is bad

karon deserves 1st ngl

giorno [#7]

karon deserves 1st ngl

Bro tuyz has at least performed well as controller in international before while Karon is still new to the international events

Allat

smartest 100T fan

proud_bandwagoners [#4]

How is Life even a flex? Never seen him played initiator

you don't need to play initiator to be a flex its just thats the traditional "flex" archetype because of double initiator.
someone with 35 duelist-30 smokes- 35 sentinel would be considered a flex
edit: note: this is not specifically for life, more a general take

TheAceGamer30 [#8]

Bro tuyz has at least performed well as controller in international before while Karon is still new to the international events

im sick of the "he's never played at a international event" narrative, its almost never actually happened

prx 6th is disgusting while geng are somehow 4th

1. Loud
2. PRX
3. EDG

Psion [#11]

you don't need to play initiator to be a flex its just thats the traditional "flex" archetype because of double initiator.
someone with 35 duelist-30 smokes- 35 sentinel would be considered a flex
edit: note: this is not specifically for life, more a general take

But he never played smoke. 90% of his games is on jett and raze, only played chamber as sentinel too

giorno [#6]

life first ? hmm

life was really impressive in cn and all the other flex players underperformed for the most part, only thing i regret is putting forsaken so high, it was 3am when i made the list lmao

CoCloudy [#13]

prx 6th is disgusting while geng are somehow 4th

fraudulent team stfu cloudy and come play ranked pookie

TTVZidac76 [#17]

fraudulent team stfu cloudy and come play ranked pookie

ill eat u

proud_bandwagoners [#15]

But he never played smoke. 90% of his games is on jett and raze, only played chamber as sentinel too

im not talking about life, im talking about "never seen ____ played initiatior" which means u think playing initiator is necessary to be considered a flex

TTVZidac76 [#12]

im sick of the "he's never played at a international event" narrative, its almost never actually happened

the guard? xset? hello?

Psion [#20]

the guard? xset? hello?

Exactly lan experience means something that’s why m80 choked in the end to tthe guard in ascension as they didn’t have that experience

This guy sucks Life's cock

TheAceGamer30 [#21]

Exactly lan experience means something that’s why m80 choked in the end to tthe guard in ascension as they didn’t have that experience

lan and international are different things lol

CoCloudy [#18]

ill eat u

huh????

0fcuZ [#14]

1. Loud
2. PRX
3. EDG

Heretics > Loud

Psion [#20]

the guard? xset? hello?

The Guard run is a fluke though. Why do u think they never made it to another international event? Even today G2 is a mid table team.

Xset faces optic(another top team) and lev which are at their level. They are a top 6-8 team and it shows in their second tournament

LeCat [#26]

The Guard run is a fluke though. Why do u think they never made it to another international event? Even today G2 is a mid table team.

Xset faces optic(another top team) and lev which are at their level. They are a top 6-8 team and it shows in their second tournament

you cannot exclude TGRD because you think it was a fluke lol, even at reykjavik they were up 10- 4 vs optic on map 3. If they had international experience they probably don't choke the 10-4 lead.
regardless,
and what is ur point on xset? they were BAD vs optic at copenhagen and leviatan was another team that got given direct playoffs placement and had no previous experience, but did better at their second international event (champions). Xset was the exact same way. did very bad or choked before they had international experience, after getting it they looked better
then there's zeta(0-2 at masters berlin, 5-3 and 3rd at reykjavik the following event
so,
xset (0-2 at M2C -> 3-2 and top 6 at champs)
Lev (1-2 at M2C -> 2-2 at champs)
ZETA (0-2 at M3B, top 3 at reykjavik)
100T (went 1-2 at champs, made top 8 at Lock\in)
Liquid (1-2 at M2R, top 4 at champs)
KRU(1-2 at M2R-> top 8 at M3B/top 4 at Champs)
X10 (1-2 at M2R-> top 8 at champs
Paper rex (0-2 at M3B -> top 4 at reykjavik)
EG(1-1 at Lock\in -> 2nd at MT)
EDG (0-1 at lock\in -> Top 6 at tokyo)
I know some of these have red herrings, so don't bring them up, its irrelevant.
Might i mention that FPX at copenhagen(which is really a cop out because they only didn't make it to reykjavik because of the war) are the ONLY team without international experience to make top 4 at an international event

Psion [#27]

you cannot exclude TGRD because you think it was a fluke lol, even at reykjavik they were up 10- 4 vs optic on map 3. If they had international experience they probably don't choke the 10-4 lead.
regardless,
and what is ur point on xset? they were BAD vs optic at copenhagen and leviatan was another team that got given direct playoffs placement and had no previous experience, but did better at their second international event (champions). Xset was the exact same way. did very bad or choked before they had international experience, after getting it they looked better
then there's zeta(0-2 at masters berlin, 5-3 and 3rd at reykjavik the following event
so,
xset (0-2 at M2C -> 3-2 and top 6 at champs)
Lev (1-2 at M2C -> 2-2 at champs)
ZETA (0-2 at M3B, top 3 at reykjavik)
100T (went 1-2 at champs, made top 8 at Lock\in)
Liquid (1-2 at M2R, top 4 at champs)
KRU(1-2 at M2R-> top 8 at M3B/top 4 at Champs)
X10 (1-2 at M2R-> top 8 at champs
Paper rex (0-2 at M3B -> top 4 at reykjavik)
EG(1-1 at Lock\in -> 2nd at MT)
EDG (0-1 at lock\in -> Top 6 at tokyo)
I know some of these have red herrings, so don't bring them up, its irrelevant.
Might i mention that FPX at copenhagen(which is really a cop out because they only didn't make it to reykjavik because of the war) are the ONLY team without international experience to make top 4 at an international event

Xset did not perform much better in Champs vs Reykjavik. Thats the point. They fail when they face a top team.

And correlation does not equal causation. Only one team making it top 4 from your list have other explanation, namely that the reason they fail is because teams like the Guard only play against NA teams and are caught offguard when facing a PRX or Loud(teams with a different style) . This is not true anymore with the merging of regions in Americas and Pacific, and now that you have only 3 leagues any competent couch would be prepared for any teams.

LeCat [#28]

Xset did not perform much better in Champs vs Reykjavik. Thats the point. They fail when they face a top team.

And correlation does not equal causation. Only one team making it top 4 from your list have other explanation, namely that the reason they fail is because teams like the Guard only play against NA teams and are caught offguard when facing a PRX or Loud(teams with a different style) . This is not true anymore with the merging of regions in Americas and Pacific, and now that you have only 3 leagues any competent couch would be prepared for any teams.

""They fail when they face a top team." are you forgetting they beat FPX the first time at champs(a top team) "
yes correlation does not equal causation, its obviously a combination of multiple things. I am not saying it is a 1:1, i am saying it has an affect. If we did stats for every event champs 21 and onward, teams with previous international experience will be noticably better than teams without it

WhatADrag [#3]

John qt is a good sentinel player. Should be atleast top 3. Rest of the list I can live with.

thats mad cope

Psion [#19]

im not talking about life, im talking about "never seen ____ played initiatior" which means u think playing initiator is necessary to be considered a flex

don't bother with him

Zerphyr1 [#31]

don't bother with him

morning zerphyr

Psion [#32]

morning zerphyr

its almost midnight for me 💀

Zerphyr1 [#33]

its almost midnight for me 💀

its 8am for me i aint slept yet lmao

TTVZidac76 [#16]

life was really impressive in cn and all the other flex players underperformed for the most part, only thing i regret is putting forsaken so high, it was 3am when i made the list lmao

Bro he plays your the most and his your is mid af