If sen cant even beat nrg which consists of players like crashies (last good year was 2022) victor( same as trashies) and MARVED (💀) it means that sen doesnt have what it takes to beat teams like fnc navi heretics koi and geng prx in international competition and that they need to kick sacy (quickfix) and keep tenz for another 3 years to build some more chemistry
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xelto1 [#3]W bait
Nothing of the sort, im confident in my stance and eager to discuss it further if you're interested
Mozzarellas [#5]Nothing of the sort, im confident in my stance and eager to discuss it further if you're interested
They aren’t a super team yet, but they have potential to be on paper.
Mozzarellas [#5]Nothing of the sort, im confident in my stance and eager to discuss it further if you're interested
Nah man alg we'll see , have a whole year no let's see if they win or lose
xelto1 [#8]Nah man alg we'll see , have a whole year no let's see if they win or lose
I see your point but why waste a whole year trying to make a failed roster work (considering that sen will lose to nrg) instead of getting and kicking players (sacy next) consistently every 2 or so months for a whole year to finally have the perfect contender roster that works around tenz?
noxx [#6]he said koi (and heretics) lmfaoooooooo, trust me here americas top 3 clears every other team in every other region other than fnatic (and maybe navi) and I'm not even american
edit : but i do agree that sen need to beat nrg to prove that they can beat anyone no matter who they are against
why dont you bring up some compelling points and arguments to support your take instead of me having to supress my instincts and my logical thinking to trust a random person on the internet
Mozzarellas [#9]I see your point but why waste a whole year trying to make a failed roster work (considering that sen will lose to nrg) instead of getting and kicking players (sacy next) consistently every 2 or so months for a whole year to finally have the perfect contender roster that works around tenz?
Ong bro TenZ is the goat, we need him, we are nothing without tyson
Mozzarellas [#10]why dont you bring up some compelling points and arguments to support your take instead of me having to supress my instincts and my logical thinking to trust a random person on the internet
most of it comes down to fundamentals like u watch sen play maps like split and then u watch any other emea team other than fnatic and navi and it feels very weird, they have a lot of set strats and very cool gimmicky rounds but apart from that the team play and cohesion is just lacking which is not surprising because most of the rosters in emea are built from the ground up (again other than fnc and navi) and this also affects the midrounding coz most of the igls are rookies and they seem very inexperienced (making very readable and basic calls, not bad ones but yea) but i do believe heretics can be really good with a little bit more time and that goes for most of emea due to the new formation of rosters and most of the teams lack identity for example sen are really good at retakes meanwhile nrg are really good controlling the pace and defaulting properly and loud have godlike mid rounding with that being said a lot of the teams show glimpses of promise like vitality and kc and heretics and with enough time they can be contenders but rn americas clears
unknown_trash [#13]I need to see wemon1 soloing all of SEN alone and t bagging the whole time now. It will shut up all these delusional sen fans.
but if it is the other way around and semen1 loses.. its gonna be too funny
noxx [#12]most of it comes down to fundamentals like u watch sen play maps like split and then u watch any other emea team other than fnatic and navi and it feels very weird, they have a lot of set strats and very cool gimmicky rounds but apart from that the team play and cohesion is just lacking which is not surprising because most of the rosters in emea are built from the ground up (again other than fnc and navi) and this also affects the midrounding coz most of the igls are rookies and they seem very inexperienced (making very readable and basic calls, not bad ones but yea) but i do believe heretics can be really good with a little bit more time and that goes for most of emea due to the new formation of rosters and most of the teams lack identity for example sen are really good at retakes meanwhile nrg are really good controlling the pace and defaulting properly and loud have godlike mid rounding with that being said a lot of the teams show glimpses of promise like vitality and kc and heretics and with enough time they can be contenders but rn americas clears
johnQQ is also an inexperienced igl and sen cant have good cohesion and teamplay when their roster changes every 3 weeks.
Mozzarellas [#17]johnQQ is also an inexperienced igl and sen cant have good cohesion and teamplay when their roster changes every 3 weeks.
Bro koi? really heretics look good nowhere Navi and fnatic level but very good but koi looked horrible let's be honest
Instead of koi if you put KC it would make more sense
uwukitten [#16]crashies last good year was 2022? more like never, victor has been great in 2023 though so I won't tolerate that one 🗿
oh and navi? mibr on a bad day would 2-0 navi
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tomato211222 [#23]Bro koi? really heretics look good nowhere Navi and fnatic level but very good but koi looked horrible let's be honest
Instead of koi if you put KC it would make more sense
i could put many more teams like kc fut vitality and giantx but i wanted to keep my message short
tomato211222 [#25]Bro snuck in koi and thought we wouldn't notice
i was hoping you would notice bcs its pretty unfair that koi gets grouped meanwhile sen has to play teams like lev g2 and 100t to qualify for playoffs
Mozzarellas [#9]I see your point but why waste a whole year trying to make a failed roster work (considering that sen will lose to nrg) instead of getting and kicking players (sacy next) consistently every 2 or so months for a whole year to finally have the perfect contender roster that works around tenz?
you're right, fut should kick everyone and build around cned too. my two goats need better teams
uwukitten [#28]you're right, fut should kick everyone and build around cned too. my two goats need better teams
unfortunately cned doesnt have neither tenz's cosmic stage presence nor his colossal following so it wouldn't make any sense to follow that scenario
Ha4dy [#14]but if it is the other way around and semen1 loses.. its gonna be too funny
Either way, I win because I only care about loud making it to Madrid :)
Mozzarellas [#17]johnQQ is also an inexperienced igl and sen cant have good cohesion and teamplay when their roster changes every 3 weeks.
ok now i understand ur just baiting lmfaoo actual delusion if u arent baiting
noxx [#33]ok now i understand ur just baiting lmfaoo actual delusion if u arent baiting
delusional how? sen will kick sacy and possible johnqt if they fail to qualify for madrid lmao and what about johnqt being an inexperienced igl is wrong
nutab1e [#4]3 years isn't even enough to give him a chance, tenz needs 5 years minimum
5 years minimum for stealing my heart 😍
Mozzarellas [#27]i was hoping you would notice bcs its pretty unfair that koi gets grouped meanwhile sen has to play teams like lev g2 and 100t to qualify for playoffs
Wow bro so your telling me koi can beat 100t or lev they would get smoked
Koi looked so shaky and their calling was so bad KC shit on them just like Sen 200t or lev would
Mozzarellas [#34]delusional how? sen will kick sacy and possible johnqt if they fail to qualify for madrid lmao and what about johnqt being an inexperienced igl is wrong
They def won't kick them- this has been the best they've played since their downfall post-2021, also John has a lot of experience IGL'ing unless ur talking about international tournaments- but if that's the case Ethan also doesn't have any experience aside from midrounding LOL
tomato211222 [#36]Wow bro so your telling me koi can beat 100t or lev they would get smoked
Koi looked so shaky and their calling was so bad KC shit on them just like Sen 200t or lev would
Koi would get destroyed by g2 and lev
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