G2 vs VGIA
2-0 G2
XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
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Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
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Mixwell
G2
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6
3
+3
|
2
2
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
5
0
+5
|
3
4
-1
|
nukkye
G2
|
4
1
+3
|
4
0
+4
|
3
3
+0
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5
3
+2
|
5
2
+3
|
AvovA
G2
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3
1
+2
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1
4
-3
|
5
0
+5
|
2
2
+0
|
2
2
+0
|
keloqz
G2
|
4
2
+2
|
3
3
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
5
4
+1
|
5
2
+3
|
koldamenta
G2
|
1
3
-2
|
6
1
+5
|
2
2
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
3
4
-1
|
XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
|
Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
Mixwell
G2
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
3
1
+2
|
|
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
|
2
0
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
2
0
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
|
koldamenta
G2
|
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
|
XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
|
Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
Mixwell
G2
|
|
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
|
|
|
|
keloqz
G2
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
2
0
+2
|
koldamenta
G2
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Mixwell
G2
|
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
60
|
0
|
0
|
koldamenta
G2
|
|
1
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
72
|
0
|
0
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
22
|
1
|
2
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
4
|
|
1
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
79
|
1
|
0
|
keloqz
G2
|
|
2
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
74
|
0
|
0
|
Toronto
OXG
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
0
|
0
|
m1tez
OXG
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
0
|
0
|
XiSTOU
OXG
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
0
|
0
|
glovee
OXG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
27
|
0
|
0
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
44
|
3
|
0
|
XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
|
Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
Mixwell
G2
|
4
3
+1
|
1
1
+0
|
3
2
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
1
2
-1
|
nukkye
G2
|
2
0
+2
|
4
0
+4
|
2
2
+0
|
5
2
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
AvovA
G2
|
2
0
+2
|
0
2
-2
|
3
0
+3
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
keloqz
G2
|
4
1
+3
|
3
3
+0
|
3
1
+2
|
4
4
+0
|
5
1
+4
|
koldamenta
G2
|
1
3
-2
|
5
1
+4
|
2
1
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
3
2
+1
|
XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
|
Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
Mixwell
G2
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
2
0
+2
|
2
1
+1
|
|
|
AvovA
G2
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
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keloqz
G2
|
2
0
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
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koldamenta
G2
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|
2
0
+2
|
|
|
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XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
|
Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
Mixwell
G2
|
|
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
|
nukkye
G2
|
|
|
|
|
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AvovA
G2
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|
|
|
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keloqz
G2
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1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
2
0
+2
|
koldamenta
G2
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|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Mixwell
G2
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3
Round 1
XiSTOU
glovee
Round 5
m1tez
XiSTOU
Round 11
glovee
Toronto
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|
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|
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60
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0
|
0
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koldamenta
G2
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|
1
Round 8
m1tez
Unity
|
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1
Round 13
m1tez
Unity
XiSTOU
glovee
|
|
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1
Round 13
glovee
Unity
XiSTOU
|
|
|
72
|
0
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0
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AvovA
G2
|
|
2
Round 7
Toronto
XiSTOU
Round 8
XiSTOU
Toronto
|
|
|
|
|
|
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22
|
1
|
2
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nukkye
G2
|
|
4
Round 2
glovee
m1tez
Round 3
Unity
m1tez
Round 9
Toronto
glovee
Round 15
m1tez
XiSTOU
|
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1
Round 12
m1tez
XiSTOU
glovee
Unity
|
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1
Round 7
m1tez
|
|
|
|
|
79
|
1
|
0
|
keloqz
G2
|
|
2
Round 4
XiSTOU
Unity
Round 11
m1tez
XiSTOU
|
3
Round 1
Toronto
m1tez
Unity
Round 5
glovee
Toronto
Unity
Round 6
m1tez
XiSTOU
glovee
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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74
|
0
|
0
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Toronto
OXG
|
|
1
Round 8
keloqz
Mixwell
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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40
|
0
|
0
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m1tez
OXG
|
|
1
Round 7
keloqz
AvovA
|
|
|
|
|
|
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47
|
0
|
0
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XiSTOU
OXG
|
|
1
Round 7
Mixwell
koldamenta
|
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54
|
0
|
0
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glovee
OXG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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27
|
0
|
0
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Unity
OXG
|
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4
Round 3
Mixwell
koldamenta
Round 10
nukkye
keloqz
Round 13
Mixwell
nukkye
Round 14
koldamenta
AvovA
|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
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44
|
3
|
0
|
XiSTOU
OXG
|
m1tez
OXG
|
Toronto
OXG
|
glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
|
Mixwell
G2
|
2
0
+2
|
1
1
+0
|
|
2
0
+2
|
2
2
+0
|
nukkye
G2
|
2
1
+1
|
0
0
|
1
1
+0
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0
1
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
AvovA
G2
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1
1
+0
|
1
2
-1
|
2
0
+2
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2
1
+1
|
1
1
+0
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keloqz
G2
|
0
1
-1
|
0
0
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
koldamenta
G2
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
0
|
0
2
-2
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XiSTOU
OXG
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m1tez
OXG
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Toronto
OXG
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glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
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Mixwell
G2
|
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nukkye
G2
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1
0
+1
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0
0
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1
0
+1
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AvovA
G2
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1
0
+1
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2
0
+2
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keloqz
G2
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0
0
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koldamenta
G2
|
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0
0
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XiSTOU
OXG
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m1tez
OXG
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Toronto
OXG
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glovee
OXG
|
Unity
OXG
|
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Mixwell
G2
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nukkye
G2
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0
0
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AvovA
G2
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keloqz
G2
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0
0
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1
0
+1
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koldamenta
G2
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0
0
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2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Mixwell
G2
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nan
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koldamenta
G2
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nan
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AvovA
G2
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nan
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nukkye
G2
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nan
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keloqz
G2
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nan
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Toronto
OXG
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nan
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m1tez
OXG
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nan
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XiSTOU
OXG
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nan
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glovee
OXG
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nan
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Unity
OXG
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nan
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Both have to face seed 1 from Tr or CIS there’s no seeding between regions. So if you think it is easier because Gambit > SMB Riot can’t apply that because is a subjective opinion
The only point where Acend has harder bracket is with Eu seed. Acend has 3 and 5 and G2 has 4 and 6. But in practice there is not a lot of difference. (This is the part that I don’t understand, but is not that relevant)
What I don’t understand is why all CIS teams are in the upper part and the Turk teams in the lower
That's my point, why is G2 playing against objectively worse EU seeds than Acend is.
The only point where Acend has harder bracket is with Eu seed. Acend has 3 and 5 and G2 has 4 and 6. But in practice there is not a lot of difference. (This is the part that I don’t understand, but is not that relevant)
It is very relevant in my opinion. Acend as a winner in Challengers 1 Grand Finals is playing the winner of Challengers 2 Grand Finals, while G2 as a loser of Challengers 1 Grand Finals is playing the loser of Challengers 2 Grand Finals. It should have been the winner of Challengers 1 Grand Finals playing the loser of Challengers 2 Grand Finals to make proper sense. In a nutshell, currently there is no proper seeding reward for Acend who overcame G2 in Challengers 1 Grand Finals.
Not that I'm complaining, just pointing things out, as it still shows that either F4U or Riot Games EU are still like headless chickens when it comes to executing the seeds.
You’re right, it is unfair. But the only thing I can think of which also would explain why the CIS teams are in the upper part of the bracket and the Turkish teams in the lower part, is that they are thinking in the lower brackets? If you loose you’ll face easier teams??
It still make 0 sense but it is the only reason that I can think of to try to justify this bracket
It might still be unfair but it makes sense when Oxygen is higher seeded than both Liquid and NAVI. This reddit post has a list that shows the seeding (at least this seeding would make sense if you look at the bracket composition, I'm not too sure where it is from): https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/owil1v/alternative_stage_3_emea_bracket_if_cis_was/
Edit:
How I understand the seeding to bracket composition:
https://imgur.com/wKCEbmn
Since the Turkish community is so large, some of them may not understand that this is humor, but your behavior at the top doesn't change anything. As I said, the main problem was with the servers. No need to fight with each other it's just a game. But it was unfortunate for the Turkish side because they were trying to come back. This is valid for the two matches I mentioned, SMB was also returning in the same way.
I don't know about G2 match but the FPX side wasn't agree with the remake. pAura said: "Their coaches said that they had a good position" but when you look at the game FPX side were 4 A stack and SMB were going B side in 4v4 position so the desicion about the SMB game wasn't FPX's choice. But as i said idk the G2 side. Probably G2 wanted to remake.