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sen management sucks

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#1
lyprum

Sentinels have snaked not one but two players: dapr and now pANcada.
dapr was supposed to be in franchising but got booted on short notice when they could pick up Sacy and pANcada. Bro was supposed to be in Tier 1 but had to prove himself AGAIN back in tier 2. His pretty much "guaranteed" spot to compete in tier 1 was last minute taken.
While Sacy and pANcada were arguably good pickups, they need time to work through language barriers and other internal issues that come with picking up two non-100%-fluent English speakers. Now that they HAVE been given time, and they HAVE been beating top teams in scrims during champs, they BENCH pANcada despite his superior firepower off of OFF SEASON results.
This whole "zellsis better caller" thing doesn't even make sense. While Zellsis adds flex to the team, they have played and done well against teams such as PRX and FNC in champs who were in higher form than PRX and DRX in AFTV with pANcada and john "solo" calling while simultaneously having tenz perform presumably well on flex such as breach and omen. pANcada got benched off of some poor performances in some off-season games. Zellsis himself said that he wanted to try making strats and take an off role at the start of the season and go further into VOD review type things. pANcada had his spot guaranteed and on his star role but lost it due to OFF SEASON results.
Even if Zellsis makes the team "better," the situation is still messed up. pANcada is benched after being forced to play an off role for an entire year and once he gets his chance he is benched. 2 years of champs finals mvp talent wasted because of a couple off-season games. Yet another player whose spot on a good team was last minute taken.
Even worse, Sentinels are NOT going to let pANcada play(unless subs) or be released early, there is ZERO way they are letting another T1 team have a world-class controller. pANcada basically cannot compete until 2025. This is literally WORSE than C9 yay as at least yay was released and could play tier2. pANcada can't even compete right now and has to sit out a year. He has to watch as his replacement plays on SEN all because he performed better while he was sick.
This is like PRX Benkai, but at least Benkai got to play some in a rotation system before getting benched where he presumably did some analysis work. pANcada is probably either going to be streaming or making strats for the team, which is probably very humiliating, going from playing in a successful system and having your role returned to doing work for your replacement.
SEN essentially took years of T1 competing from not 1 but two players. There are better ways of improving your team without shafting your players, but SEN cannot find it. SEN management don't really care about the livelihood of their players, only org success. They are improving the team at the cost of the careers of their players.
I might join the NRG bandwagon for kickoff. This feels absurd.

tldr sen snakes too many good players and idk if i still want to support the org

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babysasuke
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Don't forget when Rob Moore spun the strat wheel and it said to keep Shitzam for 2023 and then he dropped him anyway 😱

#3
Smartest_BR_fan
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Allat

#4
AstroGalaxy
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Agreed

#5
lyprum
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Smartest_BR_fan [#3]

Allat

tldr; sen improves at the cost of their player's careers

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Smartest_BR_fan
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lyprum [#5]

tldr; sen improves at the cost of their player's careers

Ty

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lyprum
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babysasuke [#2]

Don't forget when Rob Moore spun the strat wheel and it said to keep Shitzam for 2023 and then he dropped him anyway 😱

nice one star, you're moving up in the world

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Don't forget Shazam too, they brought shroud for clout instead of johnqt and Kaplan when shazam was asking. He had little to no help from Sen

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TLDR: SEN is a shit org that just cares about money and don't plan on winning since they banking off of Tenz and now Tarik.
SEN Objective: Find another avenue to still make bank after they expire with Tenz and Tarik

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lyprum
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Shadow_Monarch [#9]

TLDR: SEN is a shit org that just cares about money and don't plan on winning since they banking off of Tenz and now Tarik.
SEN Objective: Find another avenue to still make bank after they expire with Tenz and Tarik

I love the players but this org feels so scummy that I don't even want to know what happens to the team when Tenz and Tarik retire or leave the org

#11
Asuna_Yuuki
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SEN did nothing wrong

They are just doing what is necessary to win

We don’t want you on the bandwagon

#12
Asuna_Yuuki
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Shadow_Monarch [#9]

TLDR: SEN is a shit org that just cares about money and don't plan on winning since they banking off of Tenz and now Tarik.
SEN Objective: Find another avenue to still make bank after they expire with Tenz and Tarik

Not true

They want to win

They are willing to make unpopular decision if it increases their chances of winning

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AstroGalaxy [#4]

Agreed

Agreed x2

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h1gh_fall
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Asuna_Yuuki [#11]

SEN did nothing wrong

They are just doing what is necessary to win

We don’t want you on the bandwagon

surely they'll not bring tarik into the roster after losing in kickoff right?

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NexusNomad
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h1gh_fall [#14]

surely they'll not bring tarik into the roster after losing in kickoff right?

Tarik could be the 'hype'/'vibes' man.

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lyprum
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Asuna_Yuuki [#12]

Not true

They want to win

They are willing to make unpopular decision if it increases their chances of winning

Not exactly, they do anything to further their org's success.
Of course this includes winning, but this also includes clout like Tenz and Tarik and Shroud
Sacy and pANcada were semi-good pickups and semi-clout from World Champs

Even if you think Zellsis was the right move, you cannot deny that they shafted pANcada's career for TWO YEARS. A good org should take care of their players, not just win.
If they wanted to make an unpopular decision, they'd drop TenZ and put pANcada in.

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You do know that there are transfer windows between splits right ? pancada could've been picked up in the off season if he wanted to leave and can still be picked up in the near future. Yes dapr has been fucked over but they had the chance to pick up a duo of champions and even Dapr said that he understands and at least his replacements were not some randos. No shit they're trying to bank on the popularity of its members, it's a business, they didn't sign tarik just because they wanted to have him on payroll. DUH! Y'all are crybabies.

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Tdayasu
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lets be honest, pancada is in bench only because this way NA can have 1 slot for international events

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lyprum
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Eileenleen [#17]

You do know that there are transfer windows between splits right ? pancada could've been picked up in the off season if he wanted to leave and can still be picked up in the near future. Yes dapr has been fucked over but they had the chance to pick up a duo of champions and even Dapr said that he understands and at least his replacements were not some randos. No shit they're trying to bank on the popularity of its members, it's a business, they didn't sign tarik just because they wanted to have him on payroll. DUH! Y'all are crybabies.

I don't think you get the argument I'm making.
I'm calling SEN a bad org for sacrificing the careers of their players just to further success, whether that be through winning or clout.
An ideal org should do that without sacrificing the careers of their players.

SEN's actions with Sacy and pANcada don't really make sense.
They sign them as a project, to develop them as English-speaking players, and at the height of their development, you bench pANcada after forcing him in a year of playing off-roles. They essentially abandoned half their Brazil project which they sacrificed dapr for.

An org should try to win, but also take care of their players. I am critiquing SEN's actions for trying to win by sacrificing players.

#20
TheAceGamer30
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Omds why are you complaining about this now move on

#21
lyprum
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TheAceGamer30 [#20]

Omds why are you complaining about this now move on

pANcada complaining about the kj thing kind of triggered this thought process

#22
meadows
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tldr

#23
babushka_boii95
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ion even know why people support this dogshit org. If not for content, you would see how shady they are. They repaid shahz for winning the masters by rejecting his proposal to employ kaplan as coach, and left him and dapr in the dirt. They bitched pancada as well, and enlisted shroud just for clout purposes. I for one could never support a shit org as shady and selfish as this one

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lyprum
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meadows [#22]

tldr

tldr, sen is bad org who dont care about their players careers and only the growth of the org

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machape
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I may be wrong, but how is pancada going to be the sixt man if he is all over brazil during kick off (and i dont think sen will take him to madrid either), then, why keep pancada on the main reserve roster if he isnt doing anything and its not even with the rest of the team?

#26
yuriito
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Agree

#27
SAMPV6
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Agree 100%, I like Zellsis, Johnqt and Zekken a lot but it's hard to root for that org

#28
meadows
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lyprum [#24]

tldr, sen is bad org who dont care about their players careers and only the growth of the org

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