Dude he's a caller, johnqt plays a lurking role so he can't call on executes. Zellsis is more vocal than pAncada and it's apparent that his calling is good considering they won every match with him.
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Why do people think zellsis is a "hype man"
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babysasuke [#3]you're tellin me that Zekken/TenZ/Sacy are not capable of calling executes? it HAS to be Zellshits?
This team is cooked bro
Zekken and tenz have never called. Sacy can call but idk wtf he does, zellsis literally has been a mid rounder his whole career. I thought everyone knew this.
johnqt_number1_fan [#4]Zekken and tenz have never called. Sacy can call but idk wtf he does, zellsis literally has been a mid rounder his whole career. I thought everyone knew this.
if Zellsis is a "caller" then why the fuck isn't he an IGL and cut johnqt?
Its not like this magic new role that was made up just to justify bringing him in over pancada is something so specialized that you need a designated person to do it
These are professional players, they know what the executes are supposed to look like, they've practiced them for months
babysasuke [#5]if Zellsis is a "caller" then why the fuck isn't he an IGL and cut johnqt?
Its not like this magic new role that was made up just to justify bringing him in over pancada is something so specialized that you need a designated person to do it
These are professional players, they know what the executes are supposed to look like, they've practiced them for months
He was literally supposed to igl for c9 before he left. You can have multiple igls on a team (xset). Also when you execute it's not set every time, things can happen and if johnqt lurking zellsis can call based off of what happens if they need to commit/rotate. Johnqt was also probably the most promising sentinel player of NA t2. Being a faze fan has clouded your mind.
johnqt_number1_fan [#6]He was literally supposed to igl for c9 before he left. You can have multiple igls on a team (xset). Also when you execute it's not set every time, things can happen and if johnqt lurking zellsis can call based off of what happens if they need to commit/rotate. Johnqt was also probably the most promising sentinel player of NA t2. Being a faze fan has clouded your mind.
supposed to? bruh they dropped Vanity (a real IGL) and signed a nonamer that couldnt even keep composure for a single season
surely if Zellsis was capable of filling that role, they would have put him on it and got anyone else with hands for r0ni
if they needed another IGL so bad just sign FNS fuck it, or benkai, or flyuh, or POISED
instead you have a non-IGL "caller" who doesn't want to win who was a mid player to begin with
this team is cooked bro, rebuild around TenZ/zekken/johnqt next year and let Sacy and Pancada save BR
babysasuke [#7]supposed to? bruh they dropped Vanity (a real IGL) and signed a nonamer that couldnt even keep composure for a single season
surely if Zellsis was capable of filling that role, they would have put him on it and got anyone else with hands for r0ni
if they needed another IGL so bad just sign FNS fuck it, or benkai, or flyuh, or POISED
instead you have a non-IGL "caller" who doesn't want to win who was a mid player to begin withthis team is cooked bro, rebuild around TenZ/zekken/johnqt next year and let Sacy and Pancada save BR
Dawg runi didn't even igl. Zellsis and leaf called. Bro runi was listed as igl
johnqt_number1_fan [#8]Dawg runi didn't even igl. Zellsis and leaf called. Bro runi was listed as igl
If I deciphered the garbage you just wrote correctly, where the hell did you get that info ðŸ˜
Runi's listed as IGL all year but actually just there to be garbage and drag the team down? and they don't list Zellsis as IGL even though he was because ???????
LocoMonteiro [#9]no one is saying shit about zellsis....personally i just find it crazy how an org that wants to be taken seriously keeps tenz on smokes because of his clout while having pancada on the bench
No I agree I think that tenz for pAncada would be the move. But I have no idea how it is internally. I just think that the zellsis move makes a ton of sense.
babysasuke [#10]If I deciphered the garbage you just wrote correctly, where the hell did you get that info ðŸ˜
Runi's listed as IGL all year but actually just there to be garbage and drag the team down? and they don't list Zellsis as IGL even though he was because ???????
Yep
LocoMonteiro [#9]no one is saying shit about zellsis....personally i just find it crazy how an org that wants to be taken seriously keeps tenz on smokes because of his clout while having pancada on the bench
tenz plays a completely different way with smokes than pancada. Pancada is passive and lurking a lot of the time while tenz helps create space and also unironically tenz is way more flexible than pancada so he is better for the long run, "because of his clout" is total bullshit
aaannnddddd [#13]tenz plays a completely different way with smokes than pancada. Pancada is passive and lurking a lot of the time while tenz helps create space and also unironically tenz is way more flexible than pancada so he is better for the long run, "because of his clout" is total bullshit
You made it sound like playing passive and lurking is a bad play style. Pancada literally won Champions with this playstyle.
NexusNomad [#14]You made it sound like playing passive and lurking is a bad play style. Pancada literally won Champions with this playstyle.
JohnQT is lurking thats the point of a sentinel player. So why would they need another lurking player, give them a chance. Also Pancada still isnt fluent in English while taking classes for a year.
babysasuke [#7]supposed to? bruh they dropped Vanity (a real IGL) and signed a nonamer that couldnt even keep composure for a single season
surely if Zellsis was capable of filling that role, they would have put him on it and got anyone else with hands for r0ni
if they needed another IGL so bad just sign FNS fuck it, or benkai, or flyuh, or POISED
instead you have a non-IGL "caller" who doesn't want to win who was a mid player to begin withthis team is cooked bro, rebuild around TenZ/zekken/johnqt next year and let Sacy and Pancada save BR
Bruv even fns has vic and crashies helping him mid round, The optic/NRG system wouldn't have worked even half as well without the back up mid rounding of victor and crashies, FNS himself has admitted to this
On top of that, when ur igl is also ur lurk sentinel player it becomes difficult to make micro calls on execs and calls of specific placement of utility, this was why shahz refused to Play chamber lurk on OG sentinels
And when it comes to that kind of mid rounding it's hard to find a better Player than zellsid
Oh and he's also one one of the most hype and vocal players u can find, and he's gigga flexible on top
As much as I feel sad and incredibly frustrated to see a gem like pancada get wasted on a bench where hes basically stagnating his career, i can understand why SEN management took the decisions they did
Kk0bra1101 [#16]Bruv even fns has vic and crashies helping him mid round, The optic/NRG system wouldn't have worked even half as well without the back up mid rounding of victor and crashies, FNS himself has admitted to this
On top of that, when ur igl is also ur lurk sentinel player it becomes difficult to make micro calls on execs and calls of specific placement of utility, this was why shahz refused to Play chamber lurk on OG sentinels
And when it comes to that kind of mid rounding it's hard to find a better Player than zellsid
Oh and he's also one one of the most hype and vocal players u can find, and he's gigga flexible on top
As much as I feel sad and incredibly frustrated to see a gem like pancada get wasted on a bench where hes basically stagnating his career, i can understand why SEN management took the decisions they did
See #3 big dog
Not saying that IGL has to do everything on his own, but if the rest of the team is incapable of calling anything at all then this team is already finished
Signed a mid player because the superstars on your team are mute? get me out, sick of expecting this team to be good and being let down
NexusNomad [#14]You made it sound like playing passive and lurking is a bad play style. Pancada literally won Champions with this playstyle.
Not once did he say it was bad. It is Different. SEN much rather prefer Tenz's playstyle of flashy plays and being a little more aggresive over a passive one.
They said it themselves in their podcast
babysasuke [#17]See #3 big dog
Not saying that IGL has to do everything on his own, but if the rest of the team is incapable of calling anything at all then this team is already finished
Signed a mid player because the superstars on your team are mute? get me out, sick of expecting this team to be good and being let down
Well apparently not, Not everyone has the composure or ability to be vocally active while also comming mod round strats, while also hitting their shots consistently this especially goes for the more reserved guys on the team like tenz and zekken
As for why sacy couldn't do it, i have no idea
Also there's no way zellsid is mid, by any stretch of the imagination
RDM123 [#15]JohnQT is lurking thats the point of a sentinel player. So why would they need another lurking player, give them a chance. Also Pancada still isnt fluent in English while taking classes for a year.
I remember fns switching from kj to Skye on pearl because lurking and igling was difficult. Also then how did LOUD manage to win with pancada's playstyle. Did both less and pancada lurk?
Also how do you know pancada's English is bad, have you ever spoken to him? I don't think you need Shakespeare's level of English to communicate in game
aaannnddddd [#13]tenz plays a completely different way with smokes than pancada. Pancada is passive and lurking a lot of the time while tenz helps create space and also unironically tenz is way more flexible than pancada so he is better for the long run, "because of his clout" is total bullshit
bullshit is saying pancada is passive, bro go watch some loud 2022 matches, less was the lurker, pancada was literally entering with the team just like tenz does, the difference is that he won a champions doing it while tenz won afreecatv, good luck when you need a good smokes player on your team
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