How would you rate Demon1 from 1 - 10?

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ALoKi007

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Recently I watch Demon1 play Valorant and that aim of his is really what made me go "WOOOAAAHHHHH!!!".
The playstyle, the Aces, the Clutches, etc. are smooth AF NGL!!!!!!

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in an aspas scale
i’d say he is 0.5aspas

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cartixuzi

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spreading misinformation like that is insane

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Well..... Demon1's raze depends on how good whoever plays it on his team. Aspas' raze depends on aspas. Aspas is a way better duelist than demon1

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cartixuzi

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aspas plays raze while demon1 doesnt, therefore demon1 is half the player aspas is, noted !!!

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by that logic demon1 plays brimstone so it cancels out

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Vegaaa

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Literally how it works. He can flex as smokes, which is why hes still considerably a top duelist rather than just a top jett.

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If you put demon1 on a team without other raze players, he is literally half the duelist aspas is. and thats not including the fact that aspas plays neon too.

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cartixuzi

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demon1 is therefore half the player aspas is, great deduction once again bro

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Vegaaa

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Half the duelist = Jett vs Jett/Raze

Stop being stupid, you know i am right. Just look at someone like cryo: Amazing jett player, cant play raze. he was great on xset cus he could play chamber and he could have zekken on raze, but 100t had a washed raze player (asuna) and they did shit. not saying thats the reason they did so poorly, but its one of them. Demon1 could have better aim, movement, teamplay, etc. means absolutely nothing if hes forced to play raze if no other playe r can. Its literally an almost guaranteed loss on any raze map against teams with good raze players.

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Well….. Aspas’s Brimstone depends on how good whoever plays it on his team. Demon1’s Brimstone depends on Demon1. Demon1 is a way better duelist than aspas

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Asuna_Yuuki

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-101010110 iq

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9/10

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Perfect player, no one else has ever come close

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Valid 🥶🥶🥶

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geospliced

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His aim is possibly unrivaled. 7/10 overall imo.

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Who's a 10/10 or even a 9/10 in your opinion?

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leo and less both 10 10

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alfajer >>>>>> leo

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both shit

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Hyopic

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fr bonkar packs both of them up

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geospliced

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I consider a plethora of factors when rating players, ranging from . These are some of the players I rate highly off the top of my head:

Boaster: 10/10
Saadhak: 10/10
Less: 10/10
Chronicle: 9/10
stax: 9/10
autumn: 9/10
Jamppi: 9/10
CHICHOO: 9/10
something: 9/10
ANGE1: 8/10
FiNESSE: 8/10
Smoggy: 8/10
BerLIN: 8/10
c0m: 8/10
etc

Now that I really think about it, a 7/10 for Demon1 might be too low. However, I can't see myself rating him higher than an 8 any time soon.

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Strafe7

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I don't mind this rating but BerLIN is NOT an 8/10

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geospliced

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Yeah, I can get that. I rate some players specially. For example, when it comes to IGLs, I focus less on their skill, and more on their ability to lead and make good calls/decisions. BerLIN is quite well known for cooking up FPX's fun strategies and since they're always so chaotic and entertaining to watch, I tend to rate BerLIN quite high.

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This gotta be the most ridiculously bad list of ratings I've ever seen, I find it hard to believe you've ever actually watched or played Valorant

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geospliced

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I understand that you may find many issues with the way I rate players, and I'm okay with that, because ultimately it is a personalized and biased list. I simply expressed my own preferences, and I don't think you need to go as far as to question my VCT experiences.

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oh I dont think you understand, I'll clarify

You are objectively wrong on almost all accounts

You either do not watch the game, or you don't understand what you're seeing. Im not questioning, I'm stating it.

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geospliced

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I'm sorry, but I don't think I did anything to warrant your aggression. I've stated very clearly, that my ratings and rankings are my opinions and my opinions alone. I'm not saying that a player rated 10/10 will beat a player rated 7/10 or even 5/10.

For example, Demon1 clears everyone on that list in a 1v1 or heck even a 1v2. It's just that my personal ethics, morals, and beliefs and preferences regarding what makes a "good" player are reflected in my ratings (if you want me to explain what they are, I'd be glad to.)

However, one thing I must point out is this statement of yours.
"You either do not watch the game, or you don't understand what you're seeing."
I really do not appreciate this statement, as it is quite subjective and frankly untrue. I have spent quite a long time following Valorant Esports, and I'm almost certain that I do indeed watch pro Valorant matches, and in my opinion, I do indeed understand what happens in each and every round. Contrary to your belief, of course.

I apologize for your misunderstanding on your behalf, and I will make sure to be more clear in the future.
If there's anything you want me to elaborate on, I'll do so happily.
Happy January!

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mouth_breather

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its okay geospliced you're entitled to your own opinion 😊

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geospliced

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I never tried to impose it in any way 😱

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While babysauske is being rude, I think what they mean is that rating players is kinda its own entire industry, separate from watching the game. No one who rates players does so by just watching matches, since you don't even see every player's POV. They look at statistics and a bunch of math. The stats page here on VLR is a good entry to that, but the VLR "rating" stat can also be misleading and not everyone approves of it. This video goes nuts into more complex stats and makes it clear why rating players is hard https://youtu.be/FrLtJSpaSLI

Every one of the players you mentioned is good, and honestly probably more fun to watch than other players. But giving them numerical ratings like that seems odd if other people think you're comparing them to calculated ratings. Many of those players are nowhere near the top 10.

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geospliced

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Yeah, I understand the point you're getting at here. It really is just my fault that I didn't explicitly mention the fact that those number ratings I gave those players aren't based on stats whatsoever.

I really just have to focus on improving my communication skills, especially in a place like the internet where everyone can have varying interpretations of my words. I've made a couple confusing/misleading comments on this site as of late, and while I do appreciate discussion and criticism, the ideal situation for me is one where I am able to convey my ideas coherently and clearly, thus not having to apologize for any mistakes made.

Thank you for the insightful video though! Great watch.

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cartixuzi

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ngl this might be one of the most heart breaking things ive ever read on this site bc you might actually be serious but since i like u as an individual i still respect your opinion <3

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geospliced

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I thank you for respecting my opinion. That list I put up was indeed highly biased and it isn't intended to be serious at all. I just don't rate players completely off of skill and performances like others might. I'm sorry if I really did break your heart. If there is any way I can fix it, feel free to make some suggestions and I will see what I can do. <3

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cartixuzi

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in a discussion like this, it's really unnecessary to rate players outside of their overall skill though bc all it does it makes you appear pompous by bringing in factors that don't collate with their ingame performance, which is what we're talking about here yknow? also im not having sex with you i dont see you that way

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geospliced

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Well, I'm sorry if I made myself appear pompous, as that was not my intention and I most certainly do not see my opinions as more important than others. I was simply answering the question, which was "How would you rate Demon1 from 1-10". I just rated him how I rate every other player, and I do believe I stated quite frankly that I believe "his aim is unrivaled". Therefore you could probably extrapolate that if based on skill alone I'd easily rate Demon1 a 10/10, and I apologize if I didn't make it clear. Demon1 is an amazing player skillwise and I don't mean to undercredit him in anyway.

Also, I don't believe I ever requested to copulate with you, and it saddens me to see you interpret my words that way.
Cheers cartixuzi, I enjoy talking to you a bit more than you may think.

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cartixuzi

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the thought of having sex with me saddens you? :(

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geospliced

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I am not old enough to participate in such activities, so I tend to avoid topics surrounding it when possible. It's nothing personal cartixuzi 😀

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cartixuzi

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oh hell no

continue thread →

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Bro said jampii 9/10 😂😂😂🤣😭🫵

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geospliced

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Hey beaver man, it's just my personal opinion, and the fact that he was one of the main reasons I stuck around with TL for so long alone should give him 3 points.

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I love Boaster but he's not a 10/10.

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geospliced

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I didn't state this, but that's a skill issue on my behalf. I rate Boaster a 10/10 because he comes up with nice strats, is a great IGL (motivational), has a great personality, sings very well, and interacts with the community in a positive way among other aspects that I think he excels in. Of course, his skill isn't all that bad.

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Potatobrawler8

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who says there is a 10/10?

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ionlyHave1Zuni

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8/10

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Schue7ze

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People can hate him all they want for his personality, but I don't really think anything below a 9/10 is warranted.

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mass1ve_joa

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A solid 8.6

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Miting

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Biased opinion:
9,8/10 in 2023 for me.
9,9/10 in 2023 is something for me.

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Breloof

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I feel like Demon1 seemed like the more composed and mature player compared to Something. He also made better decisions in crucial moments. But they're definitely both very high up.

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thiagomds

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7/10

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condsicc

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I rate him a Demon1/10

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Aspas is a 9. Demon1 is a 10. End of debate.

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gfnchaoz

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I would say 9 or 9.5
His confidence is next level and he's calm under pressure

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Elso

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Demon1 10

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Klaw69

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8.5

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Mr_milo

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Demon1/10

jk 8.5

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Ullyr

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If demon1 shows up next master.. we may have an era.

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1

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If he could op he would be a 10 but he is a 9

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Shidoh

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jokes apart, funny seeing NRG fans claiming demon1 to be better than aspas.
let me give y’all a reality check: aspas is the most valuable player on the planet. demon1 has crispy aim, but he has a long road before he can be put as better than aspas, and he knows it

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Karmine_Org_WhispeR

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But Demon1 literally is better than Aspas at the moment?

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Did bro watch champions or tokyo?

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what_are_you_aiming_at

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9/10 but mainly because his aim is 12/10

his first bullet accuracy is as good as yay

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Scrossi

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bros a 10 ingame and irl

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MaTrix96

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Asspas

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redlight

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9/10 imo

Aim, skills, mechanics, charisma, flexible agent pool.

He’s possibly THE ideal player a team could ever have.

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SmartPerson

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10

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Corny

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10/10 in a good day