Idk I think they are still the best but people will probably disagree
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Explain why Fnatic is not the best team anymore
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PINTO0 [#2]They are still the best team, but several teams can surpass them in a few months
who can surpass them
Asuna_Yuuki [#4]Because NRG exists
None of them have beaten fnc lol
Edit: you downvote me all you want it’s true guys none of those players even had a chance against them
Have been outstratted since Champions:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqf
Almost lost to Clown9 with c0rry, who's main roster is getting cleared by Tier 2 NA teams:
https://www.vlr.gg/283101/cloud9-vs-fnatic-red-bull-home-ground-4-gf
They were never really the best, won 2 Mickey Mouse tournaments with the most basic rat gameplay imaginable and fooled smallbraided forum users into thinking they were real contenders
ionlyHave1Zuni [#5]Mid igl mid duelist and elmapussy as coach
Igl with high clutch rate, top 3 duelist in the world wdum
TheAceGamer30 [#3]who can surpass them
LEV, NRG, SEN on Americas
NAVI, VIT, FUT on EMEA
PRX on APAC
babysasuke [#8]Have been outstratted since Champions:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqfAlmost lost to Clown9 with c0rry, who's main roster is getting cleared by Tier 2 NA teams:
https://www.vlr.gg/283101/cloud9-vs-fnatic-red-bull-home-ground-4-gfThey were never really the best, won 2 Mickey Mouse tournaments with the most basic rat gameplay imaginable and fooled smallbraided forum users into thinking they were real contenders
bro curry is the best player in the world Respect
TheAceGamer30 [#9]Igl with high clutch rate, top 3 duelist in the world wdum
Top 3 duelist?
aspas
Demon1
something
He doesnt even make in the top5 on my books
TheAceGamer30 [#9]Igl with high clutch rate, top 3 duelist in the world wdum
IGL that can't counterstrat or midround and stops IGLing to try to 1v5 and pad his stats when he thinks the map is lost
babysasuke [#8]Have been outstratted since Champions:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqfAlmost lost to Clown9 with c0rry, who's main roster is getting cleared by Tier 2 NA teams:
https://www.vlr.gg/283101/cloud9-vs-fnatic-red-bull-home-ground-4-gfThey were never really the best, won 2 Mickey Mouse tournaments with the most basic rat gameplay imaginable and fooled smallbraided forum users into thinking they were real contenders
Loud is just fnatics kryptonite and c9 was close because they were using old Strats to win
TheAceGamer30 [#7]None of them have beaten fnc lol
Edit: you downvote me all you want it’s true guys none of those players even had a chance against them
??? They haven't played yet??? And LOUD did beat them... by that logic fnatic doesn't stand a chance against LOUD
PINTO0 [#11]bro curry is the best player in the world Respect
better than boaster apparently kkkkkkkk
ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]Top 3 duelist?
aspas
Demon1
somethingHe doesnt even make in the top5 on my books
Something ain’t got championship
TheAceGamer30 [#15]Loud is just fnatics kryptonite and c9 was close because they were using old Strats to win
strangest cope I've ever seen
wonder what you'll cook up when VIT and FUT qual for internationals over them
TheAceGamer30 [#18]Something ain’t got championship
Hes objectively a better player than d0rke, also you can put jinggg in his place
unknown_trash [#16]??? They haven't played yet??? And LOUD did beat them... by that logic fnatic doesn't stand a chance against LOUD
Nah Ik man but fnc last time destroyed NRG that’s why I said that I don’t think demon1 and Ethan will change much
babysasuke [#19]strangest cope I've ever seen
wonder what you'll cook up when VIT and FUT qual for internationals over them
really if that happens then fnc is trash
TheAceGamer30 [#22]really if that happens then fnc is trash
They are, trust
They need a new Duelist and IGL
Good start with dropping m0ni, but the other 2 have to go too
TheAceGamer30 [#21]Nah Ik man but fnc last time destroyed NRG that’s why I said that I don’t think demon1 and Ethan will change much
Do you lot honestly think this nrg team can beat fnc that’s some insane copium
Edit: can’t accept that it is copium lol
babysasuke [#23]They are, trust
They need a new Duelist and IGL
Good start with dropping m0ni, but the other 2 have to go too
m0ni is back
Fnatic play a very slow default heavy style which obviously works for them most the time but can be exploited by high level teams with similar firepower like loud last year. If Fnatic can add more pace mix ups and maintain all their good qualities from 2023 they’re going to stay number 1 + icebox back and no pearl means their current map pool is better than the champs one but that’ll change throughout the year
trikecycle [#28]Fnatic play a very slow default heavy style which obviously works for them most the time but can be exploited by high level teams with similar firepower like loud last year. If Fnatic can add more pace mix ups and maintain all their good qualities from 2023 they’re going to stay number 1 + icebox back and no pearl means their current map pool is better than the champs one but that’ll change throughout the year
Yeah fnc is gonna be insane with the current map pool
Shadow_Monarch [#12]I think Alfajer is going to dominate all of EMEA this year
Finally non delusional NRG fan xd I getting downvoted for anything 🤣
babysasuke [#8]Have been outstratted since Champions:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqfAlmost lost to Clown9 with c0rry, who's main roster is getting cleared by Tier 2 NA teams:
https://www.vlr.gg/283101/cloud9-vs-fnatic-red-bull-home-ground-4-gfThey were never really the best, won 2 Mickey Mouse tournaments with the most basic rat gameplay imaginable and fooled smallbraided forum users into thinking they were real contenders
They literally only lost to 1 team, if losing to loud makes you overrated trash then I guess the entire Americas league is overrated trash. We get that you have some weird parasocial obsession with boaster and derke but you have got to find more creative copes than just calling their wins Mickey Mouse tournaments and saying the same thing anytime someone brings them up. Unless you are in a contest with yessirski to see who can cope and cry more.
Udarara [#34]They literally only lost to 1 team, if losing to loud makes you overrated trash then I guess the entire Americas league is overrated trash. We get that you have some weird parasocial obsession with boaster and derke but you have got to find more creative copes than just calling their wins Mickey Mouse tournaments and saying the same thing anytime someone brings them up. Unless you are in a contest with yessirski to see who can cope and cry more.
Well said man
Udarara [#34]They literally only lost to 1 team, if losing to loud makes you overrated trash then I guess the entire Americas league is overrated trash. We get that you have some weird parasocial obsession with boaster and derke but you have got to find more creative copes than just calling their wins Mickey Mouse tournaments and saying the same thing anytime someone brings them up. Unless you are in a contest with yessirski to see who can cope and cry more.
I'm just a fan of good Valorant, and b0tster has been holding back EMEA since 2021
Every fraudulent Fnatic roster runs the same lame defaults and rat plays to make up for their skill diff and makes the rest of EMEA afraid to actually play the game
embarrassing and sad to watch, and even more embarrassing that they've been doing the same thing for 3 years and it magically works in the 2 worst events Riot has ever put on and no one catches on
results based analysis when Fnatic wins a for-fun event, but when EG wins Champions and demon1 puts on the greatest international performance seen since TenZ in Iceland nobody is convinced
You cope and cry, actual braindead nerd
ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]Top 3 duelist?
aspas
Demon1
somethingHe doesnt even make in the top5 on my books
Something top 3 is wild
babysasuke [#36]I'm just a fan of good Valorant, and b0tster has been holding back EMEA since 2021
Every fraudulent Fnatic roster runs the same lame defaults and rat plays to make up for their skill diff and makes the rest of EMEA afraid to actually play the game
embarrassing and sad to watch, and even more embarrassing that they've been doing the same thing for 3 years and it magically works in the 2 worst events Riot has ever put on and no one catches on
results based analysis when Fnatic wins a for-fun event, but when EG wins Champions and demon1 puts on the greatest international performance seen since TenZ in Iceland nobody is convinced
You cope and cry, actual braindead nerd
Your a defo troll I can’t take any of the stuff you said serious 😂
babysasuke [#36]I'm just a fan of good Valorant, and b0tster has been holding back EMEA since 2021
Every fraudulent Fnatic roster runs the same lame defaults and rat plays to make up for their skill diff and makes the rest of EMEA afraid to actually play the game
embarrassing and sad to watch, and even more embarrassing that they've been doing the same thing for 3 years and it magically works in the 2 worst events Riot has ever put on and no one catches on
results based analysis when Fnatic wins a for-fun event, but when EG wins Champions and demon1 puts on the greatest international performance seen since TenZ in Iceland nobody is convinced
You cope and cry, actual braindead nerd
Once again the only one coping and crying is you. All you did was just repeat yourself and give 0 rebuttal. FInd new copes beyond Mickey Mouse tournament and rat strats (Which is both just untrue). You only call them the worst events because they won and you know it. You and the EMEA dumbasses use the same braindead copes when the other region wins. Your copes used to be funny now they are just pathetic. Get some creativity going.
TheAceGamer30 [#21]Nah Ik man but fnc last time destroyed NRG that’s why I said that I don’t think demon1 and Ethan will change much
Bro NRG are a completely different team
They only have 2 returning players
TheAceGamer30 [#7]None of them have beaten fnc lol
Edit: you downvote me all you want it’s true guys none of those players even had a chance against them
why are you so pissed about downvotes
babysasuke [#8]Have been outstratted since Champions:
https://www.vlr.gg/248282/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/248270/fnatic-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2023-playoffs-ubqfAlmost lost to Clown9 with c0rry, who's main roster is getting cleared by Tier 2 NA teams:
https://www.vlr.gg/283101/cloud9-vs-fnatic-red-bull-home-ground-4-gfThey were never really the best, won 2 Mickey Mouse tournaments with the most basic rat gameplay imaginable and fooled smallbraided forum users into thinking they were real contenders
put some respect on my man curry's name
Hard to tell if their champ's performance, which was still good, was because of them getting complacent or teams figuring out their playstyle. Fnatic have maps where they're not impossible to beat, i.e., ascent, lotus, and Bind. They're definitely the top candidate this year considering that every other top team of last year, presumably, got weaker. Meanwhile, Fnatic's best map reentered the map pool. There are a lot of dark horses this year, and I can see them challenging Fnatic: sen, lev, loud, and nrg. Hard to say until the season starts.
ionlyHave1Zuni [#13]Top 3 duelist?
aspas
Demon1
somethingHe doesnt even make in the top5 on my books
Demon1 the baiting duelist didn't even play his role - 1 map in 6.
https://www.vlr.gg/220447/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-ubf
Derke FK FD 20-11
Demon1 FK FD 4-8
https://www.vlr.gg/220448/fnatic-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-masters-tokyo-gf
Derke FK FD 16-22
Demon1 FK FD 12-4
Udarara [#39]Once again the only one coping and crying is you. All you did was just repeat yourself and give 0 rebuttal. FInd new copes beyond Mickey Mouse tournament and rat strats (Which is both just untrue). You only call them the worst events because they won and you know it. You and the EMEA dumbasses use the same braindead copes when the other region wins. Your copes used to be funny now they are just pathetic. Get some creativity going.
bro literally asked for an explaination of why Fnatic isnt the best team
I gave him what he asked for, and for some reason YOU'RE bad about it 😭
Strange kids these days looking for creativity and amusement when I'm giving a genuine answer to the question.
AND if you think me calling LOCK//IN a fluke tournament is a cope and not objective fact, you lose the right to ever speak to me again
ionlyHave1Zuni [#5]Mid igl mid duelist and elmapussy as coach
Wait please don't disrespect australian coach
babysasuke [#45]bro literally asked for an explaination of why Fnatic isnt the best team
I gave him what he asked for, and for some reason YOU'RE bad about it 😭
Strange kids these days looking for creativity and amusement when I'm giving a genuine answer to the question.
AND if you think me calling LOCK//IN a fluke tournament is a cope and not objective fact, you lose the right to ever speak to me again
You didn't give anything, you just spouted the same braindead copes repeatedly (and will probably reply with the same insults again).
If that is your genuine answer then you really are just a complete idiot who has no understanding of the game.
You lost the right to ever type anything to me again.
Stay Coping Stay Crying.
Udarara [#50]You didn't give anything, you just spouted the same braindead copes repeatedly (and will probably reply with the same insults again).
If that is your genuine answer then you really are just a complete idiot who has no understanding of the game.
You lost the right to ever type anything to me again.
Stay Coping Stay Crying.
find God 🙏
LouBag [#49]Anyone saying FNC isn’t the best team on paper is someone who doesn’t know Valorant. Period
Exactly
Asuna_Yuuki [#40]Bro NRG are a completely different team
They only have 2 returning players
the 2 worst, imagine keeping trashies and kektor instead of fns and som
Mozzarellas [#54]the 2 worst, imagine keeping trashies and kektor instead of fns and som
Ok s0m yeah he should have stayed but fns should just become a coach at this point and train another mini fns. His time is up. Fns is basically a dinosaur in the esports world.
unknown_trash [#55]Ok s0m yeah he should have stayed but fns should just become a coach at this point and train another mini fns. His time is up. Fns is basically a dinosaur in the esports world.
Fns > Ethan anyday for igl
PINTO0 [#10]LEV, NRG, SEN on Americas
NAVI, VIT, FUT on EMEA
PRX on APAC
LEV, NRG, SEN mayve
VIT, FUT no
PRX very small chance
TheAceGamer30 [#18]Something ain’t got championship
he got higher in champs than b0tke, so therefore he got closer to a championship
while b0tke been in the scene for 3 years, still no champs trophy. not even close to one.
ilya in tier 1 for one year, his first event was a champs final.
in 5 years, who do u think will achieve more? its a no brainer.
alecksdesk [#59]he got higher in champs than b0tke, so therefore he got closer to a championship
while b0tke been in the scene for 3 years, still no champs trophy. not even close to one.
ilya in tier 1 for one year, his first event was a champs final.
in 5 years, who do u think will achieve more? its a no brainer.
Who has more trophies 🤣derke or something use your brain pls
frakeN [#60]FNC roster is amazing but they might play bad this year, it all comes down to how much they want to win and how hard they practice.
Anyways i think Derke will carry them to Madrid and Champions
nah their only kryptonite is loud and they lost aspas so it makes them less likely to qualify so meaning fnc will probably win everything
TheAceGamer30 [#61]Who has more trophies 🤣derke or something use your brain pls
u said championship, and b0tke never even got close to one
serial choker, he even got carried to the fluke ass trophies he does have. just get fnatic a better igl + duelist and they gonna dominate.
TheAceGamer30 [#56]Fns > Ethan anyday for igl
For igl, sure. But do you want nrg to get stomped again because it turns into a 4v5? And age clearly doesn't make you better when you reach 30+. His experience is better used to teach others, either through his streams or through coaching new igls.
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