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emea 2024 floor/ceiling/prediction

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Floor: The worst case for the team (ignoring the freak events that a team blows up or something worse)
Ceiling: The best case for the team

| TEAM        | FLOOR | CEILING | PREDICTION? |
|-------------|-------|---------|-------------|
| FNC         | 3RD   | 1ST     | 1ST         |
| VITALITY    | 7TH   | 1ST     | 2ND         |
| FUT         | 6TH   | 2ND     | 3RD         |
| NAVI        | 7TH   | 1ST     | 4TH         |
| LIQUID      | 6TH   | 2ND     | 5TH         |
| GIANTX      | 8TH   | 3RD     | 6TH         |
| KC          | 10TH  | 3RD     | 7TH         |
| BBL         | 10TH  | 4TH     | 8TH         |
| GENTLEMATES | 11TH  | 6TH     | 9TH         |
| KOI         | 11TH  | 6TH     | 10TH        |
| HERETICS    | 11TH  | 5TH     | 11TH        |

Thoughts>?
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#2
n1cf
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ngl this is pretty accurate

#3
AlmartAn
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8/8

#4
beaver_man
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Bro said vitality first πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ«΅πŸ«΅πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜Ή

#5
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Wow this is really cool, altough i think you give some teams a little too much respect. Respectfully, i dont think TH have a ceiling of 5th or kc a ceiling of 3rd. Also navi 1st is ambitious, 2nd is a sweet spot for them. Vitality looks actually insane tho i fuck with thr 1st ceiling

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#5]

Wow this is really cool, altough i think you give some teams a little too much respect. Respectfully, i dont think TH have a ceiling of 5th or kc a ceiling of 3rd. Also navi 1st is ambitious, 2nd is a sweet spot for them. Vitality looks actually insane tho i fuck with thr 1st ceiling

I think teams like heretics and KC do have very high ceiling just based on how mechanical their rosters are.
But the likelihood they reach their peaks is quite unlikely, which shows by the gap between my prediction and ceiling.

Navi.. is still a very strong roster.
A team with shao and suygetsu always has the chance to contend for titles as long as the rest of the team can perform.
A little bit of consistency with comps and a bit less trolling would help.

#7
PuGGey
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why vitality hype? EU explain, they just look really alright, nothing crazy

#8
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer
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PuGGey [#7]

why vitality hype? EU explain, they just look really alright, nothing crazy

Ofc small sample size but runner is looking like he got sent from god

The macro is just absolutely stunning, always peeking together, holding together, peeking of each other, good trading, good post plants, know how what and when to use util, know how to take space

Its just beautiful to watch really

#9
Asuna_Yuuki
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NaVi is getting underestimated like crazy rn and its sad to see

People are forgetting how good they are

#10
StutterSt3p
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Imo NAVI floor is 4th, and Koi ceiling should be like 3rd or 4th. Also, how tf is BBL's ceiling 4th?

#11
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StutterSt3p [#10]

Imo NAVI floor is 4th, and Koi ceiling should be like 3rd or 4th. Also, how tf is BBL's ceiling 4th?

Ong BBL havent done anything significant to be above 6th ceiling (ok they beat fnc and drx on ascent)

#12
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Asuna_Yuuki [#9]

NaVi is getting underestimated like crazy rn and its sad to see

People are forgetting how good they are

Navi is still a top team and can contend for titles.

but I just can't trust them.
They are way too inconsistent in their comps, roles, vetoes and performances.
If they can hit some consistency they are a scary team.

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#11]

Ong BBL havent done anything significant to be above 6th ceiling (ok they beat fnc and drx on ascent)

They really had the chance to get either cned or qw1 and got neither, smh. If this team is actually a top 5 emea next season I'll be surprised.

#14
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StutterSt3p [#13]

They really had the chance to get either cned or qw1 and got neither, smh. If this team is actually a top 5 emea next season I'll be surprised.

They will not get top 5 and if they do i will never post on vlr again

  1. FNC
  2. VIT
  3. NAVI
  4. FUT
  5. GIA / TL / M8 / KC
  6. GIA / TL / M8 / KC
  7. GIA / TL / M8 / KC
  8. GIA / TL / M8 / KC

yeah there is no way

#15
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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#14]

They will not get top 5 and if they do i will never post on vlr again

  1. FNC
  2. VIT
  3. NAVI
  4. FUT
  5. GIA / TL / M8 / KC
  6. GIA / TL / M8 / KC
  7. GIA / TL / M8 / KC
  8. GIA / TL / M8 / KC

yeah there is no way

I'm ngl, you gotta chill on VIT, NAVI will most likely be better, and FUT improved their roster from last year. Maybe VIT is that good, but they only beat a trash GE team, and Furia. Not enough at this point to say they're clearly better than FUT or NAVI.

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StutterSt3p [#15]

I'm ngl, you gotta chill on VIT, NAVI will most likely be better, and FUT improved their roster from last year. Maybe VIT is that good, but they only beat a trash GE team, and Furia. Not enough at this point to say they're clearly better than FUT or NAVI.

trash GE team

Hey 😑 But yeah apart from them beating dog teams their mechanics and everything is on poinz theyte impressive for a new roster will defo be top 3 emea next year

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#16]

trash GE team

Hey 😑 But yeah apart from them beating dog teams their mechanics and everything is on poinz theyte impressive for a new roster will defo be top 3 emea next year

Bro, GE is not even a good roster on paper with benkai, and as much as I like benkai, he's not going to be enough to carry that team. Also, I didn't watch the games, so fair enough, maybe they were playing that well. But this is like saying SEN would be top 3 Americas after beating MXS/G2, except worse.

#18
The_Cleg
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Vit over navi? Gotta disagree right there, but who knows, maybe time will show you were right.

Overall I'd say this is pretty accurate especially the floor/ceilings, but BBL's ceiling isn't higher than M8 and KOI imo

#19
Orangepanda
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Based & approved by the most neutral account in VLR (🍊🐼)

#20
BraindeadKJmain
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FUT over NAVI? dog list

#21
KyLZi
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cool post!

#22
Selex
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KC will be top 4.

#23
yungbasel
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beaver_man [#4]

Bro said vitality first πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ«΅πŸ«΅πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜ΉπŸ˜Ή

You missed the entire point of his post. Try again

#24
yungbasel
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W thread. I like this concept! Would like to see one for the other regions if anyone else is up to it.

I think a little too high on VIT, but a part of me agrees with the whole list.

I also like the Navi take. After the last season, people generally seem a bit too high on FUT and a too low on that old fpx roster, forgetting what they are capable of.

The old fpx core have been about since basically competitive valorant started. They've been at the top and fallen numerous times, and climbed back too. I don't think there's another core that have done what they have, crazy to underrate them based on this year's underperformance.

#25
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UPPER 6 of emea is stacked and more balanced than the last year ,then its upto koi kc bbl and heretics to find some stability to make this a tricky season for everyone.Navi is getting ignored because of their trolling last season,they will lock that 2nd posi like its nothing,high chance of losing to fnc everytime they play eachother but could be the wall between top seed and mid pack throughout the tourney.TL VIT FUT GIANTS makes emea the most stacked mid pack out of all regions.
MY PREDICTION
FNC
NAVI
FUT
VIT
TL
GIA
KC
TH
GM
BBL
KOI

#26
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PuGGey [#7]

why vitality hype? EU explain, they just look really alright, nothing crazy

Best possible T2 picks in the form of runner and kicks,the possibility of sayf could being the best flex even leaving chronicle behind and an igl who isn't handicapped when it comes to fragging.

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