FNATIC would be a dynasty if it wasn’t for LOUD. they kept repeating the same shit over and over and teams couldn’t counter them. their only bad matchup is LOUD. if it wasn’t for LOUD, FNATIC would’ve won everything. they’re still strong for 2024 as their roster is the same, and i do think they would keep winning in a world without LOUD.
sadly for EU, Saadhak and Less exist, and they still play on the same team
beani [#4]I feel like they would have lost to PRX/EG regardless tbh
didnt they already, in this year?
beani [#6]no? they only lost to loud and tl
i thought u meant about loud. even then, idk if ur above point stays valid
Yessirskiiii [#3]Lil bro, they are already the greatest team to ever exist. They already are a dynasty!!!
dont know why youre getting downvoted tbh, fnatic is indubitably the greatest team of all time and its not even up for discussion.
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#8]dont know why youre getting downvoted tbh, fnatic is indubitably the greatest team of all time and its not even up for discussion.
loud is
champs is better than tokyo
fnatic have great coaching, they werent playing the same LOUD is just the complete counter to fnatic, its just a playstyle matchup theres no way fnatic can win against seasoned cuan and tuyz loud. They play punish val whereas fnatic play fundamental val its a direct counter. Fnatic actually brought a fair bit of new stuff too just a counterstrat at the fundamental level (mannerisms)
cboomer [#9]loud is
champs is better than tokyo
has loud won 2 events back to back?
fnatic is literally the definition of domination
Er3ngenes1s [#7]i thought u meant about loud. even then, idk if ur above point stays valid
u think fnatic would've beaten prx or eg at champs?
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#11]has loud won 2 events back to back?
fnatic is literally the definition of domination
they didnt dominate lock\in and only won because every team was new (loud was better team for most the series as was proven at champs, loud is completely higher level than fnatic now that tuyz and caun have played with the loud core)
Fnatic had months more prac than every team itw along with elite talent
100t dont count
Loud top 2 at iceland and champs win> lock in, berlin, t4 champs
being world champion is better than winning tokyo lol
beani [#12]u think fnatic would've beaten prx or eg at champs?
loud is just a matchup nightmare for fnatic they still matchup even vs prx imo
cboomer [#13]they didnt dominate lock\in and only won because every team was new (loud was better team for most the series as was proven at champs, loud is completely higher level than fnatic now that tuyz and caun have played with the loud core)
Fnatic had months more prac than every team itw along with elite talent
100t dont count
Loud top 2 at iceland and champs win> lock in, berlin, t4 champs
being world champion is better than winning tokyo lol
aint reading allat
cboomer [#13]they didnt dominate lock\in and only won because every team was new (loud was better team for most the series as was proven at champs, loud is completely higher level than fnatic now that tuyz and caun have played with the loud core)
Fnatic had months more prac than every team itw along with elite talent
100t dont count
Loud top 2 at iceland and champs win> lock in, berlin, t4 champs
being world champion is better than winning tokyo lol
rare W
Yistyy [#18]rare W
EG Optic and LOUD all have better years than fnatic
The only way to match a champs win is optic 3x TOP 3 with 1 win
EG and Loud both have champs and finals appearance
dognatic fans need to protest boaster their dephh pro max if they want to match optic loud or eg
beani [#12]u think fnatic would've beaten prx or eg at champs?
they did at tokyo tho. In a dominating fashion too. Added to that, they beat EG twice so wouldnt be a surprise for anyone here
Er3ngenes1s [#22]they did at tokyo tho. In a dominating fashion too. Added to that, they beat EG twice so wouldnt be a surprise for anyone here
flukyo was a very questionable tournament. fnatic's wins on prx and eg cannot be taken seriously since PRX had a sub and EG were scrimming with reformed instead of demon1.
cboomer [#14]loud is just a matchup nightmare for fnatic they still matchup even vs prx imo
loud just relies on heavy gun fights and contesting of a certain area of map more often tbh. This kind of playstyle just counters enough for a very structured and disciplined team like fnatic
Yistyy [#23]flukyo was a very questionable tournament. fnatic's wins on prx and eg cannot be taken seriously since PRX had a sub and EG were scrimming with reformed instead of demon1.
reformed wasnt even there in tokyo and prx still had 4 same players that had played at champs too...
Er3ngenes1s [#25]reformed wasnt even there in tokyo and prx still had 4 same players that had played at champs too...
cgrs vs something is a nasty thing and i dont even rate something that much
Yistyy [#20]they are decent but overrated as fuck. they won a mickey mouse tournament and flukyo where every single team that attended was nerfed.
Most EU Fans give fair credibility to EG win but sadly its a one-way-road when were expecting the other way around
Cope
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#27]Most EU Fans give fair credibility to EG win but sadly its a one-way-road when were expecting the other way around
Cope
champs 2023 is the most competitive tournament in val history
tokyo and lock\in are on the same level as iceland 2021
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#17]who tf is even your flair lil pup
Bro is trying to act like he knows what he is talking abt when he doesn't even know who tf gentle mates are?
EU brain
Er3ngenes1s [#25]reformed wasnt even there in tokyo and prx still had 4 same players that had played at champs too...
reformed was indeed at tokyo and EG were scrimming for weeks without demon1 thinking he wouldn't make it due to visa issues
proof: https://x.com/ReformedVal/status/1673194177771995137?s=20
also if you think prx with cgrs is even close to prx with something that should show how deluded you are.
Please stop talking out of your ass if you don't know shit.
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#11]has loud won 2 events back to back?
fnatic is literally the definition of domination
fluke in is a mickey mouse tourney tbf
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#27]Most EU Fans give fair credibility to EG win but sadly its a one-way-road when were expecting the other way around
Cope
This is just false lmao. every eu fan on this site shit-talks EG's win. And I don't even have to mention what EU fans have been saying about Reykjavik 2022 ever since optic won.
Yistyy [#30]reformed was indeed at tokyo and EG were scrimming for weeks without demon1 thinking he wouldn't make it due to visa issues
proof: https://x.com/ReformedVal/status/1673194177771995137?s=20
also if you think prx with cgrs is even close to prx with something that should show how deluded you are.
Please stop talking out of your ass if you don't know shit.
i dont remember him playing in a single official for EG tho, did he?
Also, dont get aggravated here, it is just a logical thing to say that most of the players in prx in Tokyo were the same players in champs too. Its a team game after all
Er3ngenes1s [#33]i dont remember him playing in a single official for EG tho, did he?
Also, dont get aggravated here, it is just a logical thing to say that most of the players in prx in Tokyo were the same players in champs too. Its a team game after all
i dont remember him playing in a single official for EG tho, did he?
my guy what are you even saying? demon1 was having visa issues, EG started scrimming with reformed for several weeks. EG got to tokyo a week before the tournament actually started. demon1 finally was able to make it to tokyo before the tournament started.
most of the players in prx in Tokyo were the same players in champs too. Its a team game after all
No. Subbing in a PUBG content creator in place for the pacific league MVP cannot even be compared. Very drastic changes in team dynamic since f0rsaken had to play duelist instead of flex and cgrs played gekko (lol)
ionlyHave1Zuni [#2]No aspas to carry them in a map 3 haven 1.70 rating in 19 rounds tho... Loud is finished i fear
my answer for that terrible take is here
Yessirskiiii [#3]Lil bro, they are already the greatest team to ever exist. They already are a dynasty!!!
common L
Yistyy [#34]i dont remember him playing in a single official for EG tho, did he?
my guy what are you even saying? demon1 was having visa issues, EG started scrimming with reformed for several weeks. EG got to tokyo a week before the tournament actually started. demon1 finally was able to make it to tokyo before the tournament started.
most of the players in prx in Tokyo were the same players in champs too. Its a team game after all
No. Subbing in a PUBG content creator in place for the pacific league MVP cannot even be compared. Very drastic changes in team dynamic since f0rsaken had to play duelist instead of flex and cgrs played gekko (lol)
"EG got to tokyo a week before the tournament actually started." and yet they still had time to scrim regardless?
Also, u r just making a fuss about something and cgrs here. its not like he's the only one in the team who gets the most impact or something. 1 player doesnt create much difference here even though he's like the pacific mvp.
Er3ngenes1s [#37]"EG got to tokyo a week before the tournament actually started." and yet they still had time to scrim regardless?
Also, u r just making a fuss about something and cgrs here. its not like he's the only one in the team who gets the most impact or something. 1 player doesnt create much difference here even though he's like the pacific mvp.
they were scrimming with reformed up until demon1 arrived last minute.
making a fuss about something and cgrs here
Beyond delusional if you think there is a small difference between the two. My guy, it is already a massive handicap to play with a sub, let alone a fcking PUBG content creator...
Shidoh [#36]common L
How so? It's not up for argument imo. The only team that has won twice and even by eye test, they're by far the best.
Yessirskiiii [#3]Lil bro, they are already the greatest team to ever exist. They already are a dynasty!!!
Since when are we talking about FUT 🗿🗿
Yistyy [#20]they are decent but overrated as fuck. they won a mickey mouse tournament and flukyo where every single team that attended was nerfed.
they are very good mechanically, except for Boaster, so i wouldn’t call them overrated in that aspect. in terms of tactics, though, they ended up getting stale, but they knew how to apply the fundamentals. predictable gameplay for LOUD, but final boss for every other team
cboomer [#21]EG Optic and LOUD all have better years than fnatic
The only way to match a champs win is optic 3x TOP 3 with 1 win
EG and Loud both have champs and finals appearance
dognatic fans need to protest boaster their dephh pro max if they want to match optic loud or eg
sure man, looking forward to 2024 season
Yistyy [#38]they were scrimming with reformed up until demon1 arrived last minute.
making a fuss about something and cgrs here
Beyond delusional if you think there is a small difference between the two. My guy, it is already a massive handicap to play with a sub, let alone a fcking PUBG content creator...
Didnt say that it would have no differences if something wasnt there in tokyo and it ofc it would, but my point here is that i said that majority of the PRX players still played at tokyo as they did in champs. The two players players who bring the most impact on that team is Jingg and f0rsaken and mindfreak is like a clutchmeister for paper rex. Something is more of like a Star fragging player where he is being set up by his team for success. And by no means i am saying that he isnt that good, it's just that team can still perform at the same level or very much close to that level even without something. u r just misunderstanding here.
about "they were scrimming with reformed up until demon1 arrived last minute." they still had a week and half time for scrimming and prepping even after he arrived at tokyo. even then, EG had played and also scrimmed with demon1 for majority of the regular season. so idk where's the loophole here
i could adjust it to “if it wasn’t for LOUD and LEV” at this point, but i guess we’ll have to see if LEV is bad matchup for FNATIC
chances are: FNATIC are still superior. but I don’t doubt aspas’ power of changing LEV completely, he’s bringing up not only mechanics but years game knowledge learned with Sacy and Saadhak, which is definitely being shared with his teammates
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