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Lecadi [#3]Yes realy good pick up. Chemie should be good and you have a Chor of the 3 best Asension Players but you upgrade the Team with Nats and Jamppi.
Chemie Chor
Least obvious german
cboomer [#5]liquid went from emea winners to a team with players that got smacked in t2
Je rirai de toi si M8 perdront
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#8]Je rirai de toi si M8 perdront
does bro know apeks lost 26-39 lmfao
nats cant carry bums by himself he needs more russians
koromast [#9]only time will tell if its a upgrade or a downgrade but if i have to bet, i think its a downgrade ngl a team who beated fnatic having fnatic´s leftovers doesnt seem fine to me, keiko was one of the best duelist on his league and ascension but lets see how he does on LAN this time.
Enzo > Soulcas
Mistic > Redgar
The only downgrade is Keiko as duelist, but replacing Sayf with someone on his level was next to impossible so only time will tell how big the downgrade in duelist is.
Lecadi [#3]Yes realy good pick up. Chemie should be good and you have a Chor of the 3 best Asension Players but you upgrade the Team with Nats and Jamppi.
This is the correct conclusion one should make.
cboomer [#5]liquid went from emea winners to a team with players that got smacked in t2
Why do you say such nonsense bro
PunisherXPR [#11]Enzo > Soulcas
Mistic > RedgarThe only downgrade is Keiko as duelist, but replacing Sayf with someone on his level was next to impossible so only time will tell how big the downgrade in duelist is.
Not just that. The apeks core has proven to work well together whereas the liquid roster from last year was less than the sum of their parts
Congo1 [#13]Why do you say such nonsense bro
bros not self aware
biggest flair check in history bro tried to prove for 4 months that the 5th best team in the league is somehow a contender for any trophy
Anyone roasting this move is just incorrect. I don't think there is a better controller in EMEA than Mistic, and if he hadn't been playing intiator for FNC at the end of '22 he would've been in franchising. If you're going to have a non-controller IGL(and Enzo is probably the best one) you should be looking for Mistic first and foremost. Hoody and Atakaptan are good as well, but I truly think Mistic is No. 1 unless Shao makes the full switch.
Very smart pickup.
This should in theory alleviate the issues that liquid had last year, mainly surrounding conflicting ideas and team structure.
Liquid 2023 did not perform as well as the sum of their parts.
Enzo was a top igl in T2 Emea.
Mistic looked like the best fragging controller in T2 emea, people's perception of mistic is only so low because of the flash incident and the fact he played flex/initiator to help accommodate boaster.
Keiko performed very well on raze/jett last year.
Losing Sayf does suck, but sometimes you just have to go back to the drawing board and start anew.
PunisherXPR [#11]Enzo > Soulcas
Mistic > RedgarThe only downgrade is Keiko as duelist, but replacing Sayf with someone on his level was next to impossible so only time will tell how big the downgrade in duelist is.
even if enzo and mistic are a bit better than redgar and soulcas the deciding factor of liquid winning vct emea was sayf and thats why i see this as a downgrade ngl
cboomer [#5]liquid went from emea winners to a team with players that got smacked in t2
The finals of ascension were 1 of the 2 games apeks lost in he circuit. Mistic was the 3rd best performing player at that tournament anf in his t2 region. He performed better than any of the M8 players when it comes to overall consistency. He is as much of a tier 2 bum as you are an analyst.
cboomer [#16]bros not self aware
biggest flair check in history bro tried to prove for 4 months that the 5th best team in the league is somehow a contender for any trophy
Don't insult my congo like that
PunisherXPR [#11]Enzo > Soulcas
Mistic > RedgarThe only downgrade is Keiko as duelist, but replacing Sayf with someone on his level was next to impossible so only time will tell how big the downgrade in duelist is.
I think in terms of firepower keiko = sayf ngl but the only issue is that he is a downgrade in terms of flexibility. Keiko can't fill raze
snowconedeity [#17]RIP Shadow hope he can pick up some t3 talent and keep apeks competitive in the league
Finally got unbanned? Welcome back goat
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