I think they can go playoff VCT Pacific 2024 and not sure about VCT master
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i hate this narrative
just because bleed came from ascension doesnt mean theyre automatically 11th place LOL
with or without yay, bleed on its own is more than capable of taking top 3 in PACIFIC.
if you think otherwise you just havent watch their games or know anything about the rest of the roster or the support behind the scene that bleed has
COMPARED to the bottom 7 teams in pacific...
horse69 [#3]one great player (yay) aint gonna make them beat prx and drx
they have a top 3 apac smokes player in sScary, an established igl who can frag if needed in crazyguy, deryeon can be very solid and is a great flex, and egoist isnt bad (although i dont know much about him yet), its not just yay
horse69 [#3]one great player (yay) aint gonna make them beat prx and drx
thats still more than enough to make masters lol they just need 3rd place
frakeN [#4]They won't achieve anything, it is really bad decision from yay. I don't know what his options were but i would rather stay in Americas franchise.
He will get the bag tho, good for him. I wish him the best
its a bad decision from BLEED
not from yay
mans making millions despite having an awful year
Holistical_Nil [#7]thats still more than enough to make masters lol they just need 3rd place
madrid is 2 per region
Yistyy [#10]Lol u joking? Even without yay they would make it to masters easily. With yay, they are trophy contenders easily.
yeah braindead cringe ass fucking 5 year old kids. keep downvoting, yall will look stupid as fuck next year.
y0y
Holistical_Nil [#5]i hate this narrative
just because bleed came from ascension doesnt mean theyre automatically 11th place LOL
with or without yay, bleed on its own is more than capable of taking top 3 in PACIFIC.
if you think otherwise you just havent watch their games or know anything about the rest of the roster or the support behind the scene that bleed has
COMPARED to the bottom 7 teams in pacific...
Nobody ever said they will be 11th. Its obviously ge or dfm again. Everyone know even before the franchising bleed was already on par with TS and xerxia and i think their ascension roster is even better than before, they are atleast gonna be top5 or even 4 in the league
Aivi [#6]they have a top 3 apac smokes player in sScary, an established igl who can frag if needed in crazyguy, deryeon can be very solid and is a great flex, and egoist isnt bad (although i dont know much about him yet), its not just yay
Established igl 🤣
https://www.vlr.gg/185127/indonesia-vs-vietnam-sea-esports-championship-2023-gf/?game=120435&tab=overview
sleeek [#14]Established igl 🤣
https://www.vlr.gg/185127/indonesia-vs-vietnam-sea-esports-championship-2023-gf/?game=120435&tab=overview
lol 13-1 against 2 players that didnt play in competitive for a whole year is crazy
AzShun [#15]lol 13-1 against 2 players that didnt play in competitive for a whole year is crazy
bro anyone can have a bad day. 1 match means nothing.
titanwithpp [#9]PRX, DRX aside T1, RRQ, BLEED so far have really good rosters on paper so it won't be easy for BLEED.
DFM, GE, GENG, TLN, ZETA and TS are dark horses for now
Blud add GE as a dark horse insted you should say they are clown of VCT Pacific btw bleed clears all
sleeek [#14]Established igl 🤣
https://www.vlr.gg/185127/indonesia-vs-vietnam-sea-esports-championship-2023-gf/?game=120435&tab=overview
Ah yes he couldnt perform in a match which his team lost 13-1 so hes washed lol. Just look at Demon1's career before he joined EG, its a team game dumbass
ItsOnlyAGame [#2]They can easily qualify to masters, why are you forgetting how evenly matched all the teams for the 3rd slot were in 2023, no one could predict it.
Like 2023, PRX and DRX have the first two slots locked down, but the rest is up for grabs.
DRX wouldn't qualify to any international event next year
biuu [#18]Ah yes he couldnt perform in a match which his team lost 13-1 so hes washed lol. Just look at Demon1's career before he joined EG, its a team game dumbass
his opponent team has 3 boomer who haven't play competitively in 1 year, that's embarrassing.
biuu [#18]Ah yes he couldnt perform in a match which his team lost 13-1 so hes washed lol. Just look at Demon1's career before he joined EG, its a team game dumbass
We are talking about his ability to igl here. With out the cunning brain of sscary in bleed, and good gamesense from the other teammates they wouldn't be this good
Holistical_Nil [#5]i hate this narrative
just because bleed came from ascension doesnt mean theyre automatically 11th place LOL
with or without yay, bleed on its own is more than capable of taking top 3 in PACIFIC.
if you think otherwise you just havent watch their games or know anything about the rest of the roster or the support behind the scene that bleed has
COMPARED to the bottom 7 teams in pacific...
Bleed WAS good, but now they lost 2 important players, and got an overhyped kid + y0y as a replacement. Don't compare Ascension Bleed with Franchise Bleed, they're much weaker now.
Yistyy [#10]Lol u joking? Even without yay they would make it to masters easily. With yay, they are trophy contenders easily.
yeah braindead cringe ass fucking 5 year old kids. keep downvoting, yall will look stupid as fuck next year.
Blud doesn't watch pacific
horse69 [#3]one great player (yay) aint gonna make them beat prx and drx
Sscary one of the best controllers in all of pacific, and the world back in 2022
Egoist very underrated sentinel player
Holistical_Nil [#8]its a bad decision from BLEED
not from yay
mans making millions despite having an awful year
Money > Winning tournaments
I don't know how good yay's teammates but don't think they will be competent.
It has already happened so there is no point talking about it. If i knew his options i would compare but gl anyways
Aivi [#6]they have a top 3 apac smokes player in sScary, an established igl who can frag if needed in crazyguy, deryeon can be very solid and is a great flex, and egoist isnt bad (although i dont know much about him yet), its not just yay
sScary is top 2
mindfreak is top 1
Yistyy [#25]blud is braindead
great counter argument to prove that you actually watch pacific! you must be a really smart person, huh?
KaedeTsuneta [#34]great counter argument to prove that you actually watch pacific! you must be a really smart person, huh?
What am I supposed to say? You clearly wouldn't believe it if I say I did
Even if you want to make the argument bleed is worse than prx and drx, they are 100% the 3rd best team or better. Pacific third seed last year was t1 and bleed look miles better than them. And the other teams aren't really making great roster moves either tbh
sleeek [#13]Nobody ever said they will be 11th. Its obviously ge or dfm again. Everyone know even before the franchising bleed was already on par with TS and xerxia and i think their ascension roster is even better than before, they are atleast gonna be top5 or even 4 in the league
youre saying everybody knows... but just read the replies in these forums LOOL
Yistyy [#36]What am I supposed to say? You clearly wouldn't believe it if I say I did
Even if you want to make the argument bleed is worse than prx and drx, they are 100% the 3rd best team or better. Pacific third seed last year was t1 and bleed look miles better than them. And the other teams aren't really making great roster moves either tbh
bleed look miles better than them
who's gonna tell him? nobody? well, let me help you then. those bleed that you heard "they're soo good" are no more :)
now they have overrated egoist (who i'm sure you have watched him play) and y0y instead of juicy.
KaedeTsuneta [#39]bleed look miles better than them
who's gonna tell him? nobody? well, let me help you then. those bleed that you heard "they're soo good" are no more :)
now they have overrated egoist (who i'm sure you have watched him play) and y0y instead of juicy.
If you are that fucking stupid to think bleed is worse now, nvm keep arguing. Not worth my time
ItsOnlyAGame [#2]They can easily qualify to masters, why are you forgetting how evenly matched all the teams for the 3rd slot were in 2023, no one could predict it.
Like 2023, PRX and DRX have the first two slots locked down, but the rest is up for grabs.
madrid is two teams so bleed won't qualify even if they get 3rd
Holistical_Nil [#37]youre saying everybody knows... but just read the replies in these forums LOOL
no one is saying they're last place contender buddy
all im seeing is just bleed isnt gonna be top 3
ItsOnlyAGame [#2]They can easily qualify to masters, why are you forgetting how evenly matched all the teams for the 3rd slot were in 2023, no one could predict it.
Like 2023, PRX and DRX have the first two slots locked down, but the rest is up for grabs.
Tf u mean noone could predict it 💀💀 t1 slaughtered every team besides prx drx after week 3/4
Chirby [#26]Sscary one of the best controllers in all of pacific, and the world back in 2022
Egoist very underrated sentinel player
MaKo & mindfreak (copenhagen form against EG) clears but aite
I'm certain that yay will succeed much more in BLEED than he did in DSG, but to what extent? I guess it comes down to team structure and how the roster meshes with each other. You can have the best players in the world, but if they don't mesh well and play well together, it is likely to fail, no matter how much firepower there is, which is what happened in DSG. Tier 1 competition will also prove a test to the entire team, as BLEED (excluding yay) is not acclimatized to Tier 1 competition yet. Of course it's not expected the team will perform to the level of teams like FNATIC in Masters and EG in Champions right away (if they do they'll be the best team ever), but as long as they have good synergy and team structure, they're sure to do well.
FDWC- [#46]MaKo & mindfreak (copenhagen form against EG) clears but aite
Sscary was insane though and he chose to stay in tier 2 rather than tier 1 because bleed offered him an insane amount of money.
Zerphyr1 [#50]Sscary was insane though and he chose to stay in tier 2 rather than tier 1 because bleed offered him an insane amount of money.
i know that very well
tls127 [#45]Tf u mean noone could predict it 💀💀 t1 slaughtered every team besides prx drx after week 3/4
They had a lot of super close matches. And if Zeta had beat them it would have qualified instead of T1
ItsOnlyAGame [#52]They had a lot of super close matches. And if Zeta had beat them it would have qualified instead of T1
but they didn't. and T1 looked a level above in most maps apart from playing PRX. They were close to beating DRX as well in the playoffs although DRX is kinda on the low after LOCK//IN
Yistyy [#10]Lol u joking? Even without yay they would make it to masters easily. With yay, they are trophy contenders easily.
yeah braindead cringe ass fucking 5 year old kids. keep downvoting, yall will look stupid as fuck next year.
With yay, they are trophy contenders easily.
HAHAHAHHA nice joke man
sleeek [#14]Established igl 🤣
https://www.vlr.gg/185127/indonesia-vs-vietnam-sea-esports-championship-2023-gf/?game=120435&tab=overview
and how many of the players that 13-1 team Vietnam qualified for franchising through ascension or are even in franchising itself?
frakeN [#28]Money > Winning tournaments
I don't know how good yay's teammates but don't think they will be competent.
It has already happened so there is no point talking about it. If i knew his options i would compare but gl anyways
It's yay that has to prove himself not his teammates. Yay had a disastrous performance in T2 and was kicked from Franchise. His teammates are on the rise (not to mention an already established teammate in sScary who is absolutely a T1 player) while he has been on a downwards trend since leaving Optic. There are so many cracked duelists in APAC to pick and choose from it's ridiculous but they went with Yay for obvious marketing reasons and I will not dispute that he is a solid player but he needs to prove himself at the highest level again on a team with unfamiliar English accents (i.e. Singlish and people who have English as a 2nd language).
"I don't know how good yay's teammates but don't think they will be competent."
Speculating without even watching them play, seems kinda odd to me but you do you lil bro.
aburnie [#56]It's yay that has to prove himself not his teammates. Yay had a disastrous performance in T2 and was kicked from Franchise. His teammates are on the rise (not to mention an already established teammate in sScary who is absolutely a T1 player) while he has been on a downwards trend since leaving Optic. There are so many cracked duelists in APAC to pick and choose from it's ridiculous but they went with Yay for obvious marketing reasons and I will not dispute that he is a solid player but he needs to prove himself at the highest level again on a team with unfamiliar English accents (i.e. Singlish and people who have English as a 2nd language).
"I don't know how good yay's teammates but don't think they will be competent."
Speculating without even watching them play, seems kinda odd to me but you do you lil bro.
of course yay needs to find himself again but his peak was great.
i don't know his teammates but yay doesn't need to prove himself. he will go there and farm everything but probably won't make top 3 and go to LANs
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