1. Demon1
2. Less
3. F0rsaken
4. Aspas
5. Leo/Zmjkk/Something

Demon1? nah

CowRabies26 [#2]

Demon1? nah

why do you think that

cauanzin played better than leo and zmjkk without discussion and in my opinion more than something

it's crazy mindfreak not being at 4/5

seya [#3]

why do you think that

Cause of his biases of course

💀 no way that's some hard dick riding

massive kangkang sneak. replace him for ETHAN or goatzin

1. Demon1
2. C0M
3. Ethan

honorable mentions: (not that good but is ok)
aspas, f0rsaken, Less, smth, Jinggg

CowRabies26 [#2]

Demon1? nah

bro thinks that demon1 is the best player at champions is an opinion

Ricardo_Ereto69 [#4]

cauanzin played better than leo and zmjkk without discussion and in my opinion more than something

it's crazy mindfreak not being at 4/5

Nah caunzin played better then leo and zmjkk for sure but Idk bout something he was inconsistent but when he popped off he was insane

WingManPikachu [#8]

1. Demon1
2. C0M
3. Ethan

honorable mentions: (not that good but is ok)
aspas, f0rsaken, Less, smth, Jinggg

jingg, mindfreak, f0rsaken >>> demon1, c0m, ethan

WingManPikachu [#8]

1. Demon1
2. C0M
3. Ethan

honorable mentions: (not that good but is ok)
aspas, f0rsaken, Less, smth, Jinggg

💀💀💀 this mf is a trolll for sure

CowRabies26 [#2]

Demon1? nah

ur legit only saying that cuz he talked shit, he owns shitmea

Ricardo_Ereto69 [#4]

cauanzin played better than leo and zmjkk without discussion and in my opinion more than something

it's crazy mindfreak not being at 4/5

batter than leo is debatable but i think something and zmjkk carried more in crucial moments
cauanzin is my goat tho he would be No. 6

Kasumi12 [#6]

💀 no way that's some hard dick riding

stats speak for themselves

alucardyy [#14]

batter than leo is debatable but i think something and zmjkk carried more in crucial moments
cauanzin is my goat tho he would be No. 6

zmjkk literally lost the series to cauanzin practically solo

seya [#3]

why do you think that

PRX match, bro wasnt performing that good imo

I think Jinggg orMindfreak or both should have a spot on the list tbh

To have only 1 player from a team that hasnt lost a single series... its like basing it on stats and not actual impact

CowRabies26 [#17]

PRX match, bro wasnt performing that good imo

I think Jinggg orMindfreak or both should have a spot on the list tbh

To have only 1 player from a team that hasnt lost a single series... its like basing it on stats and not actual impact

bro demon1 has the highest rating in champs currently

im ngl, idk how demon1 mvped today. Whenever I saw him, he would be making terrible mistakes.

So where are Alfajer, Ethan and Jinggg?

WingManPikachu [#8]

1. Demon1
2. C0M
3. Ethan

honorable mentions: (not that good but is ok)
aspas, f0rsaken, Less, smth, Jinggg

bro thinks c0m is good after 1 life map on ascent

Jinggg > all

ethan should be 5 here sorry

honestly think jawgemo has been the best on EG so far, as for the list, id put jingg or forsaken at the top

333triplethreat [#19]

im ngl, idk how demon1 mvped today. Whenever I saw him, he would be making terrible mistakes.

all those mistakes yet he still top fragged 3 maps, got the highest overall rating and kills, and had one of the highest KAST% in the whole lobby.

bemku [#25]

all those mistakes yet he still top fragged 3 maps, got the highest overall rating and kills, and had one of the highest KAST% in the whole lobby.

which shows he def deserves #1

azureblade101 [#18]

bro demon1 has the highest rating in champs currently

Did u read what i wrote? My point was partly that stats isnt everything

1. f0rsaken
2. Demon1
3. Mindfreak
4. Less
5. Aspas
6. Jingg
7. Ethan
8. C0M
9. D4v41
10. Alfajer

for the entire year? if so then alfajer needs a mention

CowRabies26 [#27]

Did u read what i wrote? My point was partly that stats isnt everything

ok but when ur stats are that fucking good, you should be considered a top player

if you think otherwise, you do not have a functioning brain

CowRabies26 [#27]

Did u read what i wrote? My point was partly that stats isnt everything

the impact he's had for his team has been insane though. he performed poorly in 1 match - who should be higher? something? he shit the bed far worse than demon1 in that series. jingg really hasn't had a good tourney, and mindfreak has been incredibly impactful, but statistically he's barely top20, even in just playoffs.

id say than is the MVP so far, 14/41 clutches is crazy and his util is just so impactful

CowRabies26 [#27]

Did u read what i wrote? My point was partly that stats isnt everything

you wanna talk impact? i got you

1st in rating
4th in acs
3rd in kd
2nd in adr
1st in kpr
4th highest kills

this one doesnt matter, for fun but 1st in hs % 40

(Naïve) TOP 16 so far...

Note:

1. The chart - Champions 2023 (group + playoffs) ... based on VLR/RIB/SPIKE combined point score.
2. We're interested in "#" column, which shows how high a player is on the chart - top 16 only, whereas "Total" - sum of points, and is not that relevant.
3. The dashed line defines regions of more/less equal rating, say, Alfajer would be quite near to Less etc... and yes, AAAAY/keznit have only played up to 90 rounds.
4. The chart is not to be confused with players' actual skill/rating and so on, meaning no skill/goatness scores or whatever
   but a simple combination of three different rating systems.
5. "/" - treated as "and" --> the symbol separates two or more players to indicate equal sum of points - sharing place.
6. Oh, and Naïve is - "simple way ..." not to be confused with a "stupid way ..." ... similar to 1/N and likes etc.
7. Also, this "simple way..." is quite fun in deriving some type of meta-ratings from users of this thread, or any other, but preferable if, say, the task would include already supplied list of players to be rated, where each user would base their answer on the exact list etc - not the voluntary. I mention this since the similar posts don't lead to anything conclusive, really, etc... and there have been many of them in the past.

 #  PLAYER/s       TOTAL     #  PLAYER/s       TOTAL 
 -----------------------    ------------------------
 1  Demon1           42      9  Ethan            15
 2  AAAAY/keznit     41     10  SUYGETSU         13
 3  Cloud            36     11  Victor           12
 4  Leo/aspas        33     12  something        10
 -----------------------    ------------------------
 5  Alfajer          25     13  MrFaliN           9
 6  whzy/Less        21     14  s0m               5
 7  cauanzin         19     15  Jinggg/Sayaplayer 4
 8  d4v41            17     16  cNed/jawgemo      3 

Preceding step:

PLAYER  SPIKE  VLR  RIB  TOTAL  ||  PLAYER    SPIKE VLR RIB TOTAL
Demon1    16   16    10   42    ||  Ethan       10   5   0   15
AAAAY     15   10    16   41    ||  SUYGETSU     0   4   9   13
keznit    14   15    12   41    ||  Victor       5   6   1   12
Cloud     12    9    15   36    ||  something    0   2   8   10
aspas      9   11    13   33    ||  MrFaliN      2   7   0    9
Leo        8   14    11   33    ||  s0m          0   0   5    5
Alfajer    6   13     6   25    ||  Jinggg       4   0   0    4
Less       7   12     2   21    ||  Sayaplayer   0   0   4    4
whzy      13    1     7   21    ||  cNed         0   0   3    3
cauanzin  11    8     0   19    ||  jawgemo      3   0   0    3
d4v41      0    3    14   17    ||      

clocksky888 [#33]

(Naïve) TOP 16 so far...

Note:

1. The chart - Champions 2023 (group + playoffs) ... based on VLR/RIB/SPIKE combined point score.
2. We're interested in "#" column, which shows how high a player is on the chart - top 16 only, whereas "Total" - sum of points, and is not that relevant.
3. The dashed line defines regions of more/less equal rating, say, Alfajer would be quite near to Less etc... and yes, AAAAY/keznit have only played up to 90 rounds.
4. The chart is not to be confused with players' actual skill/rating and so on, meaning no skill/goatness scores or whatever
   but a simple combination of three different rating systems.
5. "/" - treated as "and" --> the symbol separates two or more players to indicate equal sum of points - sharing place.
6. Oh, and Naïve is - "simple way ..." not to be confused with a "stupid way ..." ... similar to 1/N and likes etc.
7. Also, this "simple way..." is quite fun in deriving some type of meta-ratings from users of this thread, or any other, but preferable if, say, the task would include already supplied list of players to be rated, where each user would base their answer on the exact list etc - not the voluntary. I mention this since the similar posts don't lead to anything conclusive, really, etc... and there have been many of them in the past.

 #  PLAYER/s       TOTAL     #  PLAYER/s       TOTAL 
 -----------------------    ------------------------
 1  Demon1           42      9  Ethan            15
 2  AAAAY/keznit     41     10  SUYGETSU         13
 3  Cloud            36     11  Victor           12
 4  Leo/aspas        33     12  something        10
 -----------------------    ------------------------
 5  Alfajer          25     13  MrFaliN           9
 6  whzy/Less        21     14  s0m               5
 7  cauanzin         19     15  Jinggg/Sayaplayer 4
 8  d4v41            17     16  cNed/jawgemo      3 

Preceding step:

PLAYER  SPIKE  VLR  RIB  TOTAL  ||  PLAYER    SPIKE VLR RIB TOTAL
Demon1    16   16    10   42    ||  Ethan       10   5   0   15
AAAAY     15   10    16   41    ||  SUYGETSU     0   4   9   13
keznit    14   15    12   41    ||  Victor       5   6   1   12
Cloud     12    9    15   36    ||  something    0   2   8   10
aspas      9   11    13   33    ||  MrFaliN      2   7   0    9
Leo        8   14    11   33    ||  s0m          0   0   5    5
Alfajer    6   13     6   25    ||  Jinggg       4   0   0    4
Less       7   12     2   21    ||  Sayaplayer   0   0   4    4
whzy      13    1     7   21    ||  cNed         0   0   3    3
cauanzin  11    8     0   19    ||  jawgemo      3   0   0    3
d4v41      0    3    14   17    ||      

keznit is trash

RAFIF [#34]

keznit is trash

Unfortunately, the option to bolden/increase the font size has been tuned down; otherwise, I'd make my question, "Can you READ, kid?" EXTRA eye-catching, just in case.

So in the post we read, "a simple combination of three different rating systems" - combined VLR/RIB/SPIKE.

But I will disagree with you, as I think keznit is not trash - in my world, unless you have a detailed way of defining what is trash. F knows, maybe a word "trash" means GOAT or similar in your world.

RAFIF [#34]

keznit is trash

Keznit is literally the reason KRU made it to champs

azureblade101 [#30]

ok but when ur stats are that fucking good, you should be considered a top player

if you think otherwise, you do not have a functioning brain

When did i even say that he doesnt deserve a spot on the top 5? LMFAO u tripping