“Valorant esports is carried by costreamers”

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ajwinner

Top 3 streams of the csgo saudi bonesaw cup are all costreamers 💀

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"first they laugh then they copy"

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gaules, ohnepixel - carry csgo, even out of those, most of ohnepixel's & csgo twitch streams have been gambling cases/csgoroll. it aint looking great, also did you hear about CS2 having 13 rounds to win now after they copied the buy screen, lel.

https://twitter.com/aquaismissing/status/1691661912637907210
https://www.hltv.org/forums/threads/2806994/cs2-mr12

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HLTV_BIGGEST_FAN

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I may be wrong, but ohne doesn't promote gambling sites. He just open cases in cs for the hobby

And MR12 was used way back in cs 1.5 and 1.6 tho

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never said he promoted it, but most of his streams/content is gambling cases. he just does it in game, still doesnt mean its not gambling.

And MR12 was used way back in cs 1.5 and 1.6 tho

come on now, lets have a limit to coping and understand this was done because valorant did it & was successful. same with buy screen copy.

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Yeah I get what are you saying, but he does it for entertainment and he says to his viewers that obviously cases aren't worth it

And nah, this ain't coping. It's a fact that MR12 was used way back in the day, and it's a fact that valorant has some influence to these changes. But we need to agree that is actually a good change, since CS rounds are long af

Plus don't come with the buy menu "copy", that's just a little thing to cry about and say that cs copied something lmao

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And MR12 was used way back in cs 1.5 and 1.6 tho

It was actually 1.3, 1.4 and 1.5 if I remember well. The change to MR15 was done during 1.5 era. 1.6 was always on MR15. but overall you're correct, the first few years of competitive CS it was MR12. Also, Riot didn't copy CSGO, they mainly copied 1.6 when they created Valorant (bringing back that feeling was one of the first things that Riot devs mentioned when they first talked about Project A). I assume most ppl here are too young to have played 1.6, so they keep confusing things

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I'm not sure tbh about the 1.3 and 1.4, I don't really know

I mean, valorant didn't "copy" cs, its just the same gamemode and basically the same rules. I only see big copies of overwatch characters I guess.

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are we comparing "gamers8" to masters and champs now?

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Exactly for Gamers8 which handle by ESL, single elimination format is bad idea due to many T1 teams participate on G8 Riyadh

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ajwinner

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“Are we comparing a 1,000,000 dollar tournament to a 1,000,000 tournament?” This dumbass asks

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asdfgh

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yeah gamers8,a single elimination 4 game tournament is truly the most anticipated cs event this year,easily comparable to the 3 tier 1 events in the whole vct season!! U are fucking braindead lol

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ajwinner

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What the fuck does any of that have to do with costreamers?

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SuzyVLR

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Actually 2,250,000 USD for VCT Champions

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It's funny cause they shit on valorant and valve just making cs2 more and more like valorant for the casual audience.

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asdfgh

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whats more casual about cs now

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wizardbot

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13 rounds

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jkjkjk

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nothing casual about 13 rounds... it's a CS competitive original feature to begin with

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When did cs change to mr12?

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never but they just switched to MR24

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Qwerttyy

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who is saying that

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cboomer

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valorant + chinese viewership dwarfs cs

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Bubbiewub

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you know cs is huge in china right???

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cboomer

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i don't mean in this moment, growth will catch up

also saw figures that edg matches had 800k viewers in china alone but not sure if they are true or correctly calculated from engagement points in china

if tencent can get val to blow up in china it will probably break LOL ~4 mil records once esports becomes more profitable

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ajwinner

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Why do people keep repeating this shit? Cs isn’t actually big in China, sure some rich people buy knives, but in terms of actually playing the game and watching the esport, cs doesn’t even compare to crossfire, which Valorant is now beating

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Gamers8GG twitch channel is incredibly viewbotted. Look at the chat speed and compare it to any channel with 1/5th the "viewership". Also check out the viewerlist while you're at it lol, it's hilarious. Same for Gamers8GG_b stream.

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Ullyr

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Actually wtf

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"saudi bonesaw cup