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Victor > Zekken
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Gutssz [#2]i would pick zekken for my team
Why?
Victor is objectively better at everything except for jett
https://www.vlr.gg/7722/envy-vs-t1-cloud9-to-the-skyes-invitational-sf/?game=all&tab=overview
to my knowledge zekken has not almost lost to moe
Asuna_Yuuki [#4]Why?
Victor is objectively better at everything except for jett
i can't seperate him and crashies 💔
msarez [#5]https://www.vlr.gg/7722/envy-vs-t1-cloud9-to-the-skyes-invitational-sf/?game=all&tab=overview
to my knowledge zekken has not almost lost to moe
wait wtf moe played valorant and got signed by an actual org? WTF?
msarez [#5]https://www.vlr.gg/7722/envy-vs-t1-cloud9-to-the-skyes-invitational-sf/?game=all&tab=overview
to my knowledge zekken has not almost lost to moe
Zekken has lost to far worse teams early on in his career lol
msarez [#5]https://www.vlr.gg/7722/envy-vs-t1-cloud9-to-the-skyes-invitational-sf/?game=all&tab=overview
to my knowledge zekken has not almost lost to moe
don’t disrespect moe like that
msarez [#5]https://www.vlr.gg/7722/envy-vs-t1-cloud9-to-the-skyes-invitational-sf/?game=all&tab=overview
to my knowledge zekken has not almost lost to moe
there is no way you went back all the way to 2021 and all you came up with is a game they won
shrubonfire [#7]victor hasn’t played in so long because he didn’t need to go through lcq everyone forgot he clears zekken any day of the week
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Saying Zekken > Victor is delusional
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]^
Saying Zekken > Victor is delusional
Zekken has a worse team but is still insane and puts up amazing numbers, you will never know until he gets a better team(Zekken this year >> Zekken last year dont bring up OPTIC vs XSET games)
Nachtel [#9]wait wtf moe played valorant and got signed by an actual org? WTF?
he wasnt signed. he did beat tenz tho lmao
msarez [#14]nice self upvote
Also Zekken has lost to multiple F/A teams in his career
Victor has only lost to 1 F/A team
Pengu12 [#18]Zekken has a worse team but is still insane and puts up amazing numbers, you will never know until he gets a better team(Zekken this year >> Zekken last year dont bring up OPTIC vs XSET games)
Victor’s numbers are better even though Victor is playing harder competition
Asuna_Yuuki [#20]Also Zekken has lost to multiple F/A teams in his career
Victor has only lost to 1 F/A team
zekken had randoms on his team vic had "gigabrain igl" fns
chick [#21]Player who qualified for both tournaments this year
Player who hasn’t qualified for anything other than the Kick-off tourney
YEAHH this one’s a HOT TAKE guys
Ange1 qualified for both tokyo and champs tho
Asuna_Yuuki [#23]Victor’s numbers are better even though Victor is playing harder competition
Yeh but his team still wins rounds, Zekken plays well and still gets 4-13
msarez [#5]https://www.vlr.gg/7722/envy-vs-t1-cloud9-to-the-skyes-invitational-sf/?game=all&tab=overview
to my knowledge zekken has not almost lost to moe
they won the game you linked tho
SEN_s1mple [#29]zekken = 1 champs
victor = 1 mastersit's pretty clear to me who is best
when did zekken win champs?
AstroGalaxy [#26]zekkens ceiling is higher and his floor is lower than victors imo. Zekken def deserves a way better team bc he can be a top 20 ITW Player or even top 15
Zekkens floor is not lower then vics lmao, sometimes
Vic will not rlly be in the server(rare occurrence but still happens) while zekken is all around pretty consistent, I would say vic maybe has a higher ceiling then zekken but zekken def has potential and imo would be better then vic on a top team
https://www.vlr.gg/189058/cloud9-vs-nrg-esports-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-lr2
https://www.vlr.gg/189051/nrg-esports-vs-evil-geniuses-champions-tour-2023-americas-league-ur1
https://www.vlr.gg/167360/nrg-esports-vs-loud-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-alpha-sf
SEN_s1mple [#29]zekken = 1 champs
victor = 1 mastersit's pretty clear to me who is best
neither have won champs
SMK_sss [#38]zach better thats how he wins.
So your argument for why zekken is better…
is that zekken is better
Asuna_Yuuki [#4]Why?
Victor is objectively better at everything except for jett
We're gonna act like Victor is better at initiators than zekken rofl?
plasma_ix [#40]We're gonna act like Victor is better at initiators than zekken rofl?
Yup
Victor is a better Kay/o
Vic doesn’t really play initiator that much anymore because of solo skye meta
plasma_ix [#40]We're gonna act like Victor is better at initiators than zekken rofl?
Putting zekken on breach is like putting shao on kj, just braindead tbh
plasma_ix [#40]We're gonna act like Victor is better at initiators than zekken rofl?
lol, vic is way better. He literally sacrifices himself to save the duelist.
also top tier flex player.
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