kinda dumb that

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Subreezy

c9 has a round diff 40 higher than LOUD, yet loud is 1st seed. i know h2h should matter but to what point? crazy that hypothetically a +100 round diff team could be 2nd seed to a +10 round diff team as 1st seed if the 1st seed team wins a very close 2-1 series

i think above a +40 or +50 round diff higher it should ignore H2H

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bay zed

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h2h better

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Subreezy

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bro stop acting like a brazilian loud fan, we all know ur a slut for m80

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zekkenstan

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bro what does m80 have to do with this

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brobeans is an m80 diehard

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first I'm hearing of this

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Mjtchell

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Im gonna be honest Subreezy I agree with the "Brazillian Loud fan" unfortunately

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its dumb

but on playoffs C9 wins ez

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Good point, but ultimately there is little difference between first and second in the standings so it does not really matter.

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not really, 2nd seed is probably gonna play against 3rd seed, which means c9 could face nrg while loud could have a free win against furia

it matters when in americas there's 3 teams solidly on top, so 1st seed is in a much better position than 2nd seed

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CherryCoke

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top 2 teams get a bye.

Its double Elimination

If c9 cant beat NRG then they shouldn't be going to Tokyo

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Subreezy

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no it's that i believe loud would more likely lose to NRG than c9 losing to NRG

i think of the top 3 in americas loud is the weakest

focusing on h2h is dogshit when it has nothing to do with qualifying, round diff should matter more among the already qualified teams

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The same is true for the rest of the rankings. Leviatan are +28, won more maps and lost less maps than everyone else on 4/4 but they are ranked the lowest out of the 4/4 teams.

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h2h feels more fair tbh
like the idea that I can beat a team with equal w/l and it doesn't matter who wins because of round dif
In the end it matters who wins, not how cleanly, same as playoffs

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Subreezy

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h2h is fair, but not when it's a huge round diff. this means that 1 game is more important than 3-4 other convincing wins

also all this does is let loud feel like they dont have to try because they managed to clinch a victory against an incredibly new c9 roster 7 weeks ago. there should be some stipulation that forces these 1st and 2nd seeds to keep trying to keep their bye spot, even if its a tie in game wins

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Holy fvck they only dropped 3 maps against Loud and NRG

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I have discussed with riot. H2h should only matter in terms of qualification and not seeding. As it doesnt really talk about performance but should rather edge out a team's qualification to playoffs.

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I hate that H2H doesn’t really account for improvement over time. C9 rn would shitstomp LOUD. C9 post-role changes hasn’t even gotten to play LOUD unfortunately.