kinda dumb that

c9 has a round diff 40 higher than LOUD, yet loud is 1st seed. i know h2h should matter but to what point? crazy that hypothetically a +100 round diff team could be 2nd seed to a +10 round diff team as 1st seed if the 1st seed team wins a very close 2-1 series

i think above a +40 or +50 round diff higher it should ignore H2H

bay zed

h2h better

its dumb

but on playoffs C9 wins ez

brobeans [#3]

h2h better

bro stop acting like a brazilian loud fan, we all know ur a slut for m80

Good point, but ultimately there is little difference between first and second in the standings so it does not really matter.

The same is true for the rest of the rankings. Leviatan are +28, won more maps and lost less maps than everyone else on 4/4 but they are ranked the lowest out of the 4/4 teams.

Udarara [#6]

Good point, but ultimately there is little difference between first and second in the standings so it does not really matter.

not really, 2nd seed is probably gonna play against 3rd seed, which means c9 could face nrg while loud could have a free win against furia

it matters when in americas there's 3 teams solidly on top, so 1st seed is in a much better position than 2nd seed

h2h feels more fair tbh
like the idea that I can beat a team with equal w/l and it doesn't matter who wins because of round dif
In the end it matters who wins, not how cleanly, same as playoffs

Faraday [#9]

h2h feels more fair tbh
like the idea that I can beat a team with equal w/l and it doesn't matter who wins because of round dif
In the end it matters who wins, not how cleanly, same as playoffs

h2h is fair, but not when it's a huge round diff. this means that 1 game is more important than 3-4 other convincing wins

also all this does is let loud feel like they dont have to try because they managed to clinch a victory against an incredibly new c9 roster 7 weeks ago. there should be some stipulation that forces these 1st and 2nd seeds to keep trying to keep their bye spot, even if its a tie in game wins

Subreezy [#5]

bro stop acting like a brazilian loud fan, we all know ur a slut for m80

bro what does m80 have to do with this

Subreezy [#8]

not really, 2nd seed is probably gonna play against 3rd seed, which means c9 could face nrg while loud could have a free win against furia

it matters when in americas there's 3 teams solidly on top, so 1st seed is in a much better position than 2nd seed

top 2 teams get a bye.

Its double Elimination

If c9 cant beat NRG then they shouldn't be going to Tokyo

zekkenstan [#11]

bro what does m80 have to do with this

brobeans is an m80 diehard

Subreezy [#5]

bro stop acting like a brazilian loud fan, we all know ur a slut for m80

Im gonna be honest Subreezy I agree with the "Brazillian Loud fan" unfortunately

Holy fvck they only dropped 3 maps against Loud and NRG

CherryCoke [#12]

top 2 teams get a bye.

Its double Elimination

If c9 cant beat NRG then they shouldn't be going to Tokyo

no it's that i believe loud would more likely lose to NRG than c9 losing to NRG

i think of the top 3 in americas loud is the weakest

focusing on h2h is dogshit when it has nothing to do with qualifying, round diff should matter more among the already qualified teams

Cresp [#13]

brobeans is an m80 diehard

first I'm hearing of this

I have discussed with riot. H2h should only matter in terms of qualification and not seeding. As it doesnt really talk about performance but should rather edge out a team's qualification to playoffs.

I hate that H2H doesn’t really account for improvement over time. C9 rn would shitstomp LOUD. C9 post-role changes hasn’t even gotten to play LOUD unfortunately.