1.32 rating and 1.66kd is fucking insane. Eye test and stats tell me that he's the best sentinel itw but if i speak i am in big trouble
Rdb14 [#3]No. Less exists
Haven't been super impressed with him when watching LOUD. He up there tho for sure
yaiima0 [#5]Alfa and less or prolly the top sentinels right now
W broski. Suygetsu on top form the best. He hasn't been at his level for now so Less and Alfa top 2. nAts still up there
GooberBoy [#7]It's gonna be really hard to tell until the next LAN but rn he's playing better than Less. Less still probably holds the crown because he's been better for longer but I wouldn't mind saying he's number one and did in a recent tier list.
They both been around for the same time tho. But you know what GooberBoy, you actually have good takes
Itsover [#6]Less exists to go negative vs s0ntinels ffs
Sentinels would beat beat any emea team except FNC, Navi and TL
Rdb14 [#14]Sentinels would beat beat any emea team except FNC, Navi and TL
s0ntinels would lose to KC
h786 [#12]Less is definitely much better, you could even say nats but he lost 3 games.
No he is not.
Yessirskiiii [#10]They both been around for the same time tho. But you know what GooberBoy, you actually have good takes
My point was that Less was playing only sentinels and being the best in the world at it while Alfa played KJ on 1 map and then was an entry player, either way their 1A 1B and both should be seen as top 10 ITW.
firefirefirefire [#19]I dont think its even an argument that less is better lol
Thanl god you said that brother! I didn't wanna disrespect Less like that but you're right Alfa has been so much better that it's not an argument as of now
Rdb14 [#14]Sentinels would beat beat any emea team except FNC, Navi and TL
Sacy and paNcada should go back to Brazil and beg saadhak to take them to Loud again, or maybe make another Brazilian superteam, TenZ should move to EU and replace any duelist player, Starved back to bench, zekken to 100t instead of derrek
widepeepofrosty [#18]yes, alfajer is undoubtably best right now. its not that less fell off, its just that aspas and alfajer turned on.
W pookie
Yessirskiiii [#20]Thanl god you said that brother! I didn't wanna disrespect Less like that but you're right Alfa has been so much better that it's not an argument as of now
i cant even imagine less stats if he played against fucking koi,kc or heretics
firefirefirefire [#23]i cant even imagine less stats if he played against fucking koi,kc or heretics
He plays with mibr, krü so it is not different
firefirefirefire [#23]i cant even imagine less stats if he played against fucking koi,kc or heretics
He plays worse competition and still can't do what Alfa does
firefirefirefire [#23]i cant even imagine less stats if he played against fucking koi,kc or heretics
You're right. He plays against the super teams that are 100T, MIBR and KRU
firefirefirefire [#23]i cant even imagine less stats if he played against fucking koi,kc or heretics
Less plays vs 100bots, kru, mibr, s0ntinels, eg, LULWiatan
Yessirskiiii [#27]You're right. He plays against the super teams that are 100T, MIBR and KRU
besides mibr, any of these 2 teams would wipe the bottom* 6 from emea
firefirefirefire [#23]i cant even imagine less stats if he played against fucking koi,kc or heretics
It’s funny cause they have the same ACS even though Fnatic’s been stomping these T3 teams
firefirefirefire [#29]besides mibr, any of these 2 teams would wipe the bottom* 6 from emea
Any of those teams would lose 0-2 to BBL or FUT at this point
Crazy how we have a really good way of comparing them since they’ve played against each other!
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
lorenzopajaroFC [#30]It’s funny cause they have the same ACS even though Fnatic’s been stomping these T3 teams
Kinda easy to have high acs when the only other good rifler in ur team is aspas, when alfa has Chronicle, Leo and Derke who get kills too.
lorenzopajaroFC [#32]Crazy how we have a really good way of comparing them since they’ve played against each other!
https://www.vlr.gg/167393/loud-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-gf
Alfajer more impact. Literally won FNC the final
lorenzopajaroFC [#35]Less went got +22 kills +60 ACS +6FK and +23 R when compared to Alfa, not to mention that in the H2H less went +3
I swear I clicked on edit
Yessirskiiii [#34]Alfajer more impact. Literally won FNC the final
Wow bro crazy stat you just brought up! Can’t argue with that
lorenzopajaroFC [#35]Less went got +22 kills +60 ACS +6FK and +23 R when compared to Alfa, not to mention that in the H2H less went +3
Alfa won the final for FNC and he has been MUCH better after LOCKIN. Aspas has been hard carrying LOUD whenever i tune in
lorenzopajaroFC [#35]Less went got +22 kills +60 ACS +6FK and +23 R when compared to Alfa, not to mention that in the H2H less went +3
These EU people are braindead. Less is the best player in the world
lorenzopajaroFC [#37]Wow bro crazy stat you just brought up! Can’t argue with that
Meh you're just super biased. Alfa has been alot alot better after LOCKIN. I've watched all the LOUD games and it's always Aspas that comes big for LOUD when they need someone to step up
Yessirskiiii [#38]Alfa won the final for FNC and he has been MUCH better after LOCKIN. Aspas has been hard carrying LOUD whenever i tune in
Alfa and less have the same ACS event though Alfa’s matches have all been clean sweeps?
SigmaMale [#39]These EU people are braindead. Less is the best player in the world
Blud he's not even the best player on his own team
Yessirskiiii [#40]Meh you're just super biased. Alfa has been alot alot better after LOCKIN. I've watched all the LOUD games and it's always Aspas that comes big for LOUD when they need someone to step up
Damn bro you could’ve just said you hadn’t watched the games but you’re just openly declaring your stupidity here
lorenzopajaroFC [#41]Alfa and less have the same ACS event though Alfa’s matches have all been clean sweeps?
1.32 rating, 1.66kd vs 1.16 rating, 1.28 kd. Also the eye test goes to Alfajer 70-30
lorenzopajaroFC [#43]Damn bro you could’ve just said you hadn’t watched the games but you’re just openly declaring your stupidity here
I've watched all LOUD games and Aspas has been much more impactful. If you want to stay biased, stay biased
Yessirskiiii [#44]1.32 rating, 1.66kd vs 1.16 rating, 1.28 kd. Also the eye test goes to Alfajer 70-30
KD just shows how easy the match was not how well your individual performance was
Also stop saying shit like “eye test” cause you wouldn’t recognize your dad even if he came back
lorenzopajaroFC [#47]KD just shows how easy the match was not how well your individual performance was
Also stop saying shit like “eye test” cause you wouldn’t recognize your dad even if he came back
Shut up lil bitch boy
I'm not a FNATIC fan, but I have to say...
Boaster - Top 3 IGL in the world
Chronicle - Best flex player in the world
Derke - Tied with aspas as the best duelist in the world
Alfajer - Top 3 sentinel player
Leo - Top 5 initiator in the world
It doesn't matter if Alfa is the best sentinel player in the world or not, FNATIC have like, every single base covered, and that too with top 5 players in each category
adilKhan [#57]I'm not a FNATIC fan, but I have to say...
Boaster - Top 3 IGL in the world
Chronicle - Best flex player in the world
Derke - Tied with aspas as the best duelist in the world
Alfajer - Top 3 sentinel player
Leo - Top 5 initiator in the worldIt doesn't matter if Alfa is the best sentinel player in the world or not, FNATIC have like, every single base covered, and that too with top 5 players in each category
leo top 5? cant even think of 1 initiator, thats better. leo clears
TkM [#58]leo top 5? cant even think of 1 initiator, thats better. leo clears
Leo top 5 initiator kinda disrespectful lol. He's a top 2 player in the world
qwertyuiopasdfghjklzxcvbn [#60]everyone that said less is better right now has bronzil flag 🗿
superiority complex after winning champs🗿
Yessirskiiii [#62]Leo top 5 initiator kinda disrespectful lol. He's a top 2 player in the world
ahh idk if hes top 2 overall. hes defo the best initiator itw.
Itsover [#21]Sacy and paNcada should go back to Brazil and beg saadhak to take them to Loud again, or maybe make another Brazilian superteam, TenZ should move to EU and replace any duelist player, Starved back to bench, zekken to 100t instead of derrek
Tenz doesn’t replace any emea dualist, not one
Fregs99 [#66]Tenz doesn’t replace any emea dualist, not one
maybe wolfen, mans just playing his game whilst overheating when his team gets the lead
babushka_boii95 [#68]maybe wolfen, mans just playing his game whilst overheating when his team gets the lead
Wolfen is much better on anchor agents than on jett, the koi fix would be -starxo +any good tier 2 turk jett fr
Fregs99 [#66]Tenz doesn’t replace any emea dualist, not one
You seriously gonna tell me that tenz is worse that kekwloqz?
babushka_boii95 [#68]maybe wolfen, mans just playing his game whilst overheating when his team gets the lead
Fr tho wolfen is not nats, suygetsu or alfa but he is good at anchoring and it seems to be his comfort role, removing starxo would fix role overlap with Sheydos(Sheydos>>>>>>>>>>>starxo on flash initiators), Trexx is good on reckon+raze, they only need a good duelist and there's plenty of them in Turkish vrl
Rdb14 [#3]No. Less exists
eles nunca vão aceitar. só tão "engolindo" o aspas melhor duelista porque ele tá performando absurdamente, e ainda sim o comparam com o derke, e se fosse só isso tudo bem, tão colocando leaf melhor que ele
Itsover [#70]You seriously gonna tell me that tenz is worse that kekwloqz?
forgot about that guy, yh tenz probaly better then him, but its not exactly hard, id take kyedae over fucking kelogz
SilentCypher [#72]Honestly yes.
He plays pretty much all of them at a very high level.
He actually might be sadly... Nt NRG
dapada [#64]superiority complex after winning champs🗿
Surely we respect Less the GOAT of Americas??
GreyDaze [#82]Yessirskii doesn't miss
Except when it comes to his NAVI bias... Bro is high on hopium AND copium
Yessirskiiii [#27]You're right. He plays against the super teams that are 100T, MIBR and KRU
Still better than KoI and TH