I see everyone saying that sen only won because their was no competition in the beginning or optic only won because emea was nerfed and now finatic
Are their only fluke wins or they deserved it?
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valorant_player [#4]Ok now do it with Fnatic at Lockin
in my professional opinion, LOCK IN was the only fluke tournament
siriuziun [#5]yes, OPT, LOUD, SEN, every win apart from EU was fluke OMEGALUL
Thats just examples people say
I have never heard someone say fluke to FPX or gambits run
LyCan52 [#8]u mean Gambit doesn't deserve it 😡
forgot about them
they deserve it too
Acend one time flukers
SEN fell off after their double duelist left the meta
Optic carried by Marved being vgood and yay chamber
I don't think any of the wins are flukes. Calling something a "fluke" is just coping.
SEN fell off hard after winning but their win was very much earned
If FPX/full FNC was at Iceland 2022 then maybe things could've been different, but Optic still won fair and square
Lock-in counts just as much as the others, everyone was there and FNC was clearly the best team there.
Udarara [#12]I don't think any of the wins are flukes. Calling something a "fluke" is just coping.
SEN fell off hard after winning but their win was very much earned
If FPX/full FNC was at Iceland 2022 then maybe things could've been different, but Optic still won fair and square
Lock-in counts just as much as the others, everyone was there and FNC was clearly the best team there.
Definitely they all deserved it
NoOne_ButMe [#10]Thats just examples people say
I have never heard someone say fluke to FPX or gambits run
because everyone that speaks about fluke wins are from EU?
Zorontom [#11]forgot about them
they deserve it too
Acend one time flukers
SEN fell off after their double duelist left the meta
Optic carried by Marved being vgood and yay chamber
SEN fell off after their double duelist left the meta
Yea. They didn't drop a map the entire tourney but they still don't deserve it?
Optic carried by Marved being vgood and yay chamber
So because Marved was very good and Yay was good on chamber they don't deserve it?
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moatz [#15]SEN fell off after their double duelist left the meta
Yea. They didn't drop a map the entire tourney but they still don't deserve it?
Optic carried by Marved being vgood and yay chamber
So because Marved was very good and Yay was good on chamber they don't deserve it?
Common Fnatic Flair L
I guess the case with Sen was...the meta was still evolving and they had it figured out then...I mean that doesn't make their win a fluke just that their players weren't good enough to keep up with the meta and produce constant results.
Same goes with Optic.....great team and their star player being extremely talented was able to abuse the Chamber meta...is it wrong?? Obviously not...but they couldn't carry the momentum too
Till now....only Loud seems to be a Major winner that is still carrying their past momentum
Zorontom [#11]forgot about them
they deserve it too
Acend one time flukers
SEN fell off after their double duelist left the meta
Optic carried by Marved being vgood and yay chamber
saying optic got carried by yay and Marved is like saying LOUD got carried by Less and Aspas. They were very competitive both before and after Reykjavik and weren't a free team by any means, if course having standout performances from their star players helped, but I genuinely believe that Crashies and Victor are both excellent players and FNS is a great caller. I am repeating myself but saying that a team is carried by 2/5th of their squad is crazy, there is not enough duels in a pro game to drop 60 every series leave the Optic team alone.
Udarara [#12]I don't think any of the wins are flukes. Calling something a "fluke" is just coping.
SEN fell off hard after winning but their win was very much earned
If FPX/full FNC was at Iceland 2022 then maybe things could've been different, but Optic still won fair and square
Lock-in counts just as much as the others, everyone was there and FNC was clearly the best team there.
maybe emea bias here but i think 2022 iceland would have very different if fpx and full fnc were there (also GAMBIT if they didnt choke against g2 but thats a different story)
moatz [#15]SEN fell off after their double duelist left the meta
Yea. They didn't drop a map the entire tourney but they still don't deserve it?
Optic carried by Marved being vgood and yay chamber
So because Marved was very good and Yay was good on chamber they don't deserve it?
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Optic wouldn't have won if Chamber wasn't busted
Zorontom [#22]Optic wouldn't have won if Chamber wasn't busted
They literally made finals with Jett bro we have no idea what would have happened
Zorontom [#3]only Fnatic FPX and Loud deserve it
I get that Sen fell off but who else deserved it? Fnatic??? Don’t make me laugh man
siriuziun [#14]because everyone that speaks about fluke wins are from EU?
Yes they do but now the people from NA are saying fluke to Fnc's lockin win
Zorontom [#22]Optic wouldn't have won if Chamber wasn't busted
So Yay was the only one who could use a busted agent well?
That reflects on the iq of eu players ngl
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