3 way tie (Pretty similar level of play)
-Fnatic
-Drx
-Loud
NAVI
Furia
Leviatan
Team Secret
NRG
Vitality
Gen G
PRX
Sentinels
Giants Gaming
Talon Esports
KOI
T1
EDG
Team Liquid
100T
FUT Esports
BBL Esports
Clown9
Zeta :c
MIBR
EG
Team Heretics
Global Esports
Funplus Pheonix
RRQ
Karmine Corp
Detonation
KRU
amyayayy [#2]fut is criminally low
I personally like them a lot but not enough results yet to put them higher.
MikeySan0 [#8]Where would you put them
definitely top 10
I think they will take the 2nd or 3rd place in EMEA.
for Worldwide they're 8th place or 9th place imo
Liem [#12]no way krü is worse than mibr, detonation and kc
Results don't lie + losing Mazino really impacted the team.
MuZe [#15]FUT 20 and VIT 9 when FUT rolled VIT just last week, yeah no
By that logic VIT beating TL 2-1 and TL beating FUT 2-1 would make them the better team, or just because GE took DRX to 13-11 and 17-15 would make them top 10 international? Just because 1 team has an off game or good game doesnt suddenly make one team much better but overall performance. I like FUT (mainly QWI) but the reality is they are abusing Lotus and with time other teams will catch up.
Vianx11 [#19]Raid bosses : Loud fnc drx
Gate keepers : navi lev furia nrg
Dark horses: prx ts geng fut sent edg
Good teams: 100t liquid vit giants koi ,attacking soul esp
Bad teams(can improve): bbl cloud9 t1 mibr fpx tln
Absolute Dogshit: kc,th,kru dfm zeta ge rrq
Zeta can improve as they have shown they can perform at high level but Laz's impact has dipped by a huge margin post chamber nerf, Sugarzero on Omen instead of Astra and the whole teams just a mess. The way the even have 2 wins in pacific is individual performance like Tenn vs RRQ and Dep vs GE who are both terrible. Need a lot better management
MikeySan0 [#22]Zeta can improve as they have shown they can perform at high level but Laz's impact has dipped by a huge margin post chamber nerf, Sugarzero on Omen instead of Astra and the whole teams just a mess. The way the even have 2 wins in pacific is individual performance like Tenn vs RRQ and Dep vs GE who are both terrible. Need a lot better management
i was zeta believer once too but it was all fluke
YshouldICare [#20]Anyone who has NRG lower than top 5 don't deserve to have their opinions be listened to.
Fnc Loud Drx NRG and Navi are still a tier above everyone and one or two games isn't going to change that
Leviatan dismantled them and although their game against Loud looked close Loud looked way better in everyway. If they keep trying to force Ardis to play Raze they won't be able to contend the teams at the top. Victor would do much better on that role and Ardis should stick to Jett, KJ and Sage, his raw aim is wasted on space creation rather then just trading/ holding down post.
Squeezhy [#11]13 Giants Gaming
14 Talon
10 GenG
17 EDG
all this team are like top 25 at most
teams like 100T, KRU, EG would ragdoll this teams 💀💀💀
Ragdoll is a strong word as 100T almost lost to EDG who've only played 2 LANS and dominating their region. KRU and EG? HHAHAHAHA
monsieur [#27]you put karmine corp too high.. kru and dfm at least know how valorant economy works
Only reason I put them above KRU and DFM is at least they showed something against BBL.
MikeySan0 [#29]Only reason I put them above KRU and DFM is at least they showed something against BBL.
did they though? like all we knew from that game are scream can frag and shouldn't igl cuz they trolled, and BBL's map pool is shit apart from ascent
Gutssz [#10]definitely top 10
I think they will take the 2nd or 3rd place in EMEA.for Worldwide they're 8th place or 9th place imo
2nd? You’re on extreme copium bro…
MikeySan0 [#28]Ragdoll is a strong word as 100T almost lost to EDG who've only played 2 LANS and dominating their region. KRU and EG? HHAHAHAHA
what about Talon and GenG are they stronger than 100T and EG?? i dont think so...
KRU is a joke i know but def not 32nd
CorpL [#31]100T is not THAT low. sure they've been underwhelming but not in top 15 at least is criminal
As of right now they just look decent and that's it. They looked good at times but commit way too hard on bad reads with no fallback plan. Cryo isn't adapting well onto omen and sage, his jett wasn't as impressive compared to a year ago. Average-good teams from EU would just slowplay and fold them tbh.
MikeySan0 [#34]As of right now they just look decent and that's it. They looked good at times but commit way too hard on bad reads with no fallback plan. Cryo isn't adapting well onto omen and sage, his jett wasn't as impressive compared to a year ago. Average-good teams from EU would just slowplay and fold them tbh.
their setplay is still elite. Also btw it's not slowplay that they struggle with. it's chaos that they struggle with. EDG on Lotus, chaos with double duelist. FUT Lotus, chaos with neon weird comp. Their mid-rounding is not great right now, which is understandable because last year, they relied a lot more on setplays and executes, while now without Sean Gares, stellar is doing more mid-round calls, which he will need to adapt to. also Cryo; its a new team, new system. he's fine, he's gonna pick his stats up. my real disappointment right now is bang, as he hasn't looked good this year. so fine right now maybe it's a coinflip for 100t and the 4-7th team in emea, but they are better than 19th
CorpL [#35]their setplay is still elite. Also btw it's not slowplay that they struggle with. it's chaos that they struggle with. EDG on Lotus, chaos with double duelist. FUT Lotus, chaos with neon weird comp. Their mid-rounding is not great right now, which is understandable because last year, they relied a lot more on setplays and executes, while now without Sean Gares, stellar is doing more mid-round calls, which he will need to adapt to. also Cryo; its a new team, new system. he's fine, he's gonna pick his stats up. my real disappointment right now is bang, as he hasn't looked good this year. so fine right now maybe it's a coinflip for 100t and the 4-7th team in emea, but they are better than 19th
Ok fine but where would you put them then as of right now based on recent games.
MikeySan0 [#14]You're probs right but they were really impressive in lock in. After this DRX game I would switch them with TL.
id personally put them around cloud 9
MikeySan0 [#17]By that logic VIT beating TL 2-1 and TL beating FUT 2-1 would make them the better team, or just because GE took DRX to 13-11 and 17-15 would make them top 10 international? Just because 1 team has an off game or good game doesnt suddenly make one team much better but overall performance. I like FUT (mainly QWI) but the reality is they are abusing Lotus and with time other teams will catch up.
That doesn't matter here since this is literally a head to head between the two teams and FUT demolished VIT
MikeySan0 [#26]Leviatan dismantled them and although their game against Loud looked close Loud looked way better in everyway. If they keep trying to force Ardis to play Raze they won't be able to contend the teams at the top. Victor would do much better on that role and Ardis should stick to Jett, KJ and Sage, his raw aim is wasted on space creation rather then just trading/ holding down post.
Optic rarely starts strong
(Regigigas debuff except they actually get good after the slow start)
Frogzay [#42]team secret above nrg?
Not after today. Having Victor play space creation and Ardis on KJ/Sage is the change they needed. Team looks a lot better now.
MikeySan0 [#37]Ok fine but where would you put them then as of right now based on recent games.
Over EDG, I think over this current Talon, over T1 since for me, they haven’t showed me they can compete with the best pacific team even with their 2-1 record. And there’s a debate for them to be over TL but I’ve been impressed with the improvement that TL has had so far. Argument to be over KOI and Giants since they are both hot and cold teams
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