No Sentinel meta

I think this is gonna be the meta for a long time now until riot nerfs astra. The astra-viper meta is too op now and the teams who doesnt do it are gonna lose. Trust me :)

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Nevermind Astra, it's viper that is the problem. She's overpowered and she is a sentinel, not a controller. You would pick

-50 dmg +vulnerable +extra damage instead of nanoswarms and alarmbot

Aren't you losing out a lurker role without KJ/cypher ?

ranker11 [#3]

Aren't you losing out a lurker role without KJ/cypher ?

Not really since once you place the viper stuff you can activate it from anywhere on the map and it generally seems like you would be with your util.

Helix_Exton [#4]

Not really since once you place the viper stuff you can activate it from anywhere on the map and it generally seems like you would be with your util.

Didn't see any viper lurker as of now hope someone will come up with new ideas

ranker11 [#5]

Didn't see any viper lurker as of now hope someone will come up with new ideas

GMB Redgar lurking with her on Icebox if they needed lurk

ranker11 [#3]

Aren't you losing out a lurker role without KJ/cypher ?

the point of the combination of Astra and Viper is that the game revolves around plants and postplants. Map control doesn't matter here, if you are running such a comp all you need to do is execute on a site and waste the retakers' time with utility.

ranker11 [#3]

Aren't you losing out a lurker role without KJ/cypher ?

Astra can lurk cuz she can put her utility down anywhere on the map.

I think its way more likely that they drop a duelist instead of a sentinel. Sentinels are just way to good at locking down a site with one player

ranker11 [#5]

Didn't see any viper lurker as of now hope someone will come up with new ideas

T1 curry lurks on Icebox a lot

sentence [#8]

Astra can lurk cuz she can put her utility down anywhere on the map.

I was thinking about more utility usage like cypher cam/cage KJ turret/alarmbot other than that any agent can lurk (lurker reynas in my rankeds)

ranker11 [#5]

Didn't see any viper lurker as of now hope someone will come up with new ideas

alot of teams lurk with viper on Icebox

Viper can be played like a sentinel

hekzy [#2]

+1
Nevermind Astra, it's viper that is the problem. She's overpowered and she is a sentinel, not a controller. You would pick

-50 dmg +vulnerable +extra damage instead of nanoswarms and alarmbot

but astra's the "Sentinel" tho

fontea [#9]

I think its way more likely that they drop a duelist instead of a sentinel. Sentinels are just way to good at locking down a site with one player

even viper is really good at locking down a site, astra not so much, but astra can lock down a site well if there is a teammate that can play off her utility