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Football VS Soccer

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RickyIndian

American Football is often considered one of the most strategic and tactical sports due to several reasons:

Complex Playbook: Football teams have an extensive playbook filled with a variety of plays and formations, each designed to exploit a specific weakness in the opponent's defense. Coaches spend hours each week devising game plans and strategies to outwit their opponents.

Adjustments on the fly: The dynamic nature of the game allows coaches and players to make adjustments on the fly based on what they see on the field. Teams will often change their play calling or offensive formations in response to what the defense is doing.

Tactical timeouts: American Football has several stoppages of play, such as timeouts, which allow teams to regroup and make adjustments. This gives coaches the opportunity to talk to their players and make changes to the game plan.

Importance of field position: In American Football, field position is crucial. Teams will often employ specific strategies, such as punting the ball on fourth down, to gain better field position and gain an advantage.

Multiple phases of the game: Football is comprised of several phases, including offense, defense, and special teams. Each phase requires different strategies and tactics, making it a complex and challenging sport.

All of these elements combine to create a sport that requires both strategic planning and tactical execution, making it a sport that is both challenging and exciting to watch.

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Soccer is considered by many to be one of the most strategic and tactical sports due to several reasons:

Limited substitutions: Soccer allows for only three substitutions per game, forcing coaches to make critical decisions about player rotations and tactics throughout the match.

Shape and spacing: The geometry of the soccer field and the movement of players are crucial components of the sport. Teams must be strategic in how they position their players to both defend and attack, taking into consideration the spacing and shape of their formation.

Tactical set pieces: Soccer has several set pieces, such as corners, free kicks, and penalties, which can be game-changers. Teams spend time practicing and developing tactics for these set pieces to take advantage of opportunities and score goals.

Mental and physical endurance: Soccer is a physically demanding sport that also requires mental endurance and focus. Teams must be strategic in how they manage their energy throughout the game to stay fresh and effective in both attack and defense.

Adapting to the opposition: Soccer is a fluid sport that requires teams to be constantly adapting to the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents. Teams must make adjustments to their tactics and strategy in real-time based on what they see on the field.

All of these factors make soccer a sport that requires a combination of mental and physical skills, strategic planning, and tactical execution, making it a sport that is both challenging and exciting to watch

American football seems more tactical to me based on ChatGPT

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Soccer is so boring 😴

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Soccer is better

Brexit tackle🍺🍻> real tackle🦅🇺🇸

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Yes, I believe in terms of complexity and the need for more tactics the superior sport is American Football. However there is another reason why soccer (its football) is for me a much more enjoyable sport to watch then American Football.

First: I believe that soccer gives players more moments to shine, to show off their individual skills and to show off a bit. American Football on the other hand, although it has its moments, it can be kind of boring?

Second: Length of the game. American Football by all standards takes way to fucking long man. They have timeouts every other play+ time for offense to move out and defense to come in. Soccer on the other hand can be enjoyed. You watch the 90 minutes, (or 120 minutes depending on game) and your done. You can enjoy the rest of your day.

Third: The tense moments. I feel like one of the main appeals of soccer is the tense moments when it becomes up to the GK. Does he pull off a miracle save? Does he fail the team? And so on. It all relies on those tense moments that makes soccer so appealing. On the other hand American Football is a sport where you will most likely be tackled and people can see the tackle happening before the tackle even happens, unless the occaional acrobatic jump comes out which is pretty rare.

Fourth: As an EPL fan. English club soccer chants are the absolute goat.

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I propose we don’t call either football. Normal football = Soccer. American Football = Handegg. Problem solved. Also Soccer > Handegg

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American Football is DOMESTIC sport, Soccer (Football) is INTERNATIONAL sport.

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This site is not hearing you out they don't even know the 22 positions in American football just give it up😭

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silentwylan [#7]

This site is not hearing you out they don't even know the 22 positions in American football just give it up😭

i watch eyeshield so i know like quarter back, running back

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i watch eyeshield so i know like quarter back, running back

center backs
left back
right back
LM
RM
RW
LW
CDM
Striker
Keeper

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silentwylan [#7]

This site is not hearing you out they don't even know the 22 positions in American football just give it up😭

Do you know all 11 soccer positions?

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RickyIndian [#9]

center backs
left back
right back
LM
RM
RW
LW
CDM
Striker
Keeper

*CM

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Basketball better

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luckypleb [#8]

i watch eyeshield so i know like quarter back, running back

Wide Receiver (WR)
Tight End (TE)

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Wait, you guys call those football. Yeah nah, imagine wearing all that heavy gear or trying to cop a penalty for being lightly tapped. Unless your football involves running the distance of a cricket ground to use your opponent as a ladder to catch a ball booted from 150metres away then that just ain't a quality game to call football.

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gamr [#5]

I propose we don’t call either football. Normal football = Soccer. American Football = Handegg. Problem solved. Also Soccer > Handegg

rare na + gamr W

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RickyIndian [#9]

center backs
left back
right back
LM
RM
RW
LW
CDM
Striker
Keeper

LM and RM barely exist anymore and there is a CAM + 1 or 2 CM

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PrinceCharming [#14]

Wait, you guys call those football. Yeah nah, imagine wearing all that heavy gear or trying to cop a penalty for being lightly tapped. Unless your football involves running the distance of a cricket ground to use your opponent as a ladder to catch a ball booted from 150metres away then that just ain't a quality game to call football.

or maybe, just maybe, the sport that uses feet instead of hands and a ball instead of an egg should be called FOOTBALL and the other one handegg

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bakabakaisthebaka [#4]

Yes, I believe in terms of complexity and the need for more tactics the superior sport is American Football. However there is another reason why soccer (its football) is for me a much more enjoyable sport to watch then American Football.

First: I believe that soccer gives players more moments to shine, to show off their individual skills and to show off a bit. American Football on the other hand, although it has its moments, it can be kind of boring?

Second: Length of the game. American Football by all standards takes way to fucking long man. They have timeouts every other play+ time for offense to move out and defense to come in. Soccer on the other hand can be enjoyed. You watch the 90 minutes, (or 120 minutes depending on game) and your done. You can enjoy the rest of your day.

Third: The tense moments. I feel like one of the main appeals of soccer is the tense moments when it becomes up to the GK. Does he pull off a miracle save? Does he fail the team? And so on. It all relies on those tense moments that makes soccer so appealing. On the other hand American Football is a sport where you will most likely be tackled and people can see the tackle happening before the tackle even happens, unless the occaional acrobatic jump comes out which is pretty rare.

Fourth: As an EPL fan. English club soccer chants are the absolute goat.

To your first point: every play is an opportunity for a player to shine. The running back could make a big run, the wide receiver could catch an amazing ball from the quarterback, the defense could make great stops, and much more. Soccer on paper seems boring because it's so long and drawn out with not much action.

Sure, the game takes long, but it's necessary considering the amount of energy used by each player on every play and the mental stress it takes. You guys always make fun of defensive and offensive linemen for being so big, but could you push another 300 pound guy for 5 minutes at a time and for the entire game?

Ok, football has so many more tense moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1dp2ZKi0cc&ab_channel=NFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8T_xuOvPA&ab_channel=NFL

Some of the best games I have ever watched were tense throughout and delivered an amazing ending.

As an NFL and CFB fan, the rowdiness of the crowd is unmatched. There was a rule at one point where the game had to be stopped temporarily if the crowd was too loud for the players to play.

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RickyIndian
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PrinceCharming [#14]

Wait, you guys call those football. Yeah nah, imagine wearing all that heavy gear or trying to cop a penalty for being lightly tapped. Unless your football involves running the distance of a cricket ground to use your opponent as a ladder to catch a ball booted from 150metres away then that just ain't a quality game to call football.

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stopped to read at "American Football" .
It is Handegg

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gamr [#5]

I propose we don’t call either football. Normal football = Soccer. American Football = Handegg. Problem solved. Also Soccer > Handegg

It's a ball. It's skin (or some other material), inflated with air and when dropped, it bounces. It's just a different shape, that it isn't spherical really doesn't matter no? Your question is based on the false premise that balls have to be spherical.

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RickyIndian
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gamr [#5]

I propose we don’t call either football. Normal football = Soccer. American Football = Handegg. Problem solved. Also Soccer > Handegg

the ball is shaped like that so it’s more aerodynamical which is actually pretty smart

also, i’ll never understand why there’s stoppage time. surely they pause the clock when the ball isn’t in play right? or is that beyond soccer fans brains

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tuxmko [#21]

It's a ball. It's skin (or some other material), inflated with air and when dropped, it bounces. It's just a different shape, that it isn't spherical really doesn't matter no? Your question is based on the false premise that balls have to be spherical.

I disagree when people consider balls like Rugby and Footballs as Eggs cause people consider most balls as Spherical
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When you examine the many descendants of medieval village football, you will find that the majority of them use a prolate spheroid shaped ball. This includes not just American football, but also Australian rules football, rugby league, and rugby union, each of which utilize balls that are of varying shape. In the category of ball-field-and-goal sports, only soccer and Gaelic Athletic Association (GAA) use a round ball.

The general rule of thumb is that sports that are less focused on hand use tend to have rounder balls, such as foot-the-ball type sports, racket sports, bat sports, and club sports. This is because they need round balls to function properly.

It is important to note that the original ball used in the game was an inflated pig's bladder, which would have been far from round. The round shape of a ball is actually an exception, as the natural shape of a ball is prolate. If you want to verify this, simply check the shape of your own testicles (for men only, and privately if you are a gentleman). If they are prolate, then they are the natural shape of a ball. If they are round, it is recommended that you seek medical attention immediately.

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Warlordwibz [#6]

American Football is DOMESTIC sport, Soccer (Football) is INTERNATIONAL sport.

This, ex. gaelic football, rugby
i BELIEVE that we should compare Giridion Football more to Rugby, vs actual Association Football its a more fairer comparison when Association Football is a International Sport vs our Domestic Sports in Oceania, Ireland and NA

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PrinceCharming [#14]

Wait, you guys call those football. Yeah nah, imagine wearing all that heavy gear or trying to cop a penalty for being lightly tapped. Unless your football involves running the distance of a cricket ground to use your opponent as a ladder to catch a ball booted from 150metres away then that just ain't a quality game to call football.

I mean, Association Football is starting to introduce more headgear in pro play do not joke abt head injuries man its serious
Its already known in Giridion Football you will get CTE braindamage from all those hits, imagine they didn't have that gear in the first place and getting runner over by the Average OL burger 320+ pounds of muscle (not lizzo) when ur prob like only >100 pounds qb
but its already known in rugby, cte runs rampant as they dont usually sustain large amounts of gear
recently a Hawaiian rugby player got killed by police mostly likely got mentally affected without treatment from injuries sustained by CTE via sports.

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RickyIndian [#18]

To your first point: every play is an opportunity for a player to shine. The running back could make a big run, the wide receiver could catch an amazing ball from the quarterback, the defense could make great stops, and much more. Soccer on paper seems boring because it's so long and drawn out with not much action.

Sure, the game takes long, but it's necessary considering the amount of energy used by each player on every play and the mental stress it takes. You guys always make fun of defensive and offensive linemen for being so big, but could you push another 300 pound guy for 5 minutes at a time and for the entire game?

Ok, football has so many more tense moments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1dp2ZKi0cc&ab_channel=NFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg8T_xuOvPA&ab_channel=NFL

Some of the best games I have ever watched were tense throughout and delivered an amazing ending.

As an NFL and CFB fan, the rowdiness of the crowd is unmatched. There was a rule at one point where the game had to be stopped temporarily if the crowd was too loud for the players to play.

You bring up good points. however it all comes down to personal preference. Each game has its own pros and cons, but I feel like it all falls down with what you grew up with. I spent most of my life living in LATAM, so a lot of my exposure to sports was mostly soccer. Ofc I respect American football as its own sport, but I simply just see more appeal in soccer. Don't get me wrong tho, I used to watch plenty of NFL highlights as well, and they were extremely captivating.

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bakabakaisthebaka [#26]

You bring up good points. however it all comes down to personal preference. Each game has its own pros and cons, but I feel like it all falls down with what you grew up with. I spent most of my life living in LATAM, so a lot of my exposure to sports was mostly soccer. Ofc I respect American football as its own sport, but I simply just see more appeal in soccer. Don't get me wrong tho, I used to watch plenty of NFL highlights as well, and they were extremely captivating.

Thanks for being a good person and respecting my argument. If I'm being honest, I love both soccer and football, but it annoys me when others don't respect a sport just because they don't have experience with it.

Have a good one, king

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RickyIndian [#27]

Thanks for being a good person and respecting my argument. If I'm being honest, I love both soccer and football, but it annoys me when others don't respect a sport just because they don't have experience with it.

Have a good one, king

Ofc mate. I used to play a bit of American Football for fun and it was super fun. People are missing out on the sport.

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RickyIndian [#27]

Thanks for being a good person and respecting my argument. If I'm being honest, I love both soccer and football, but it annoys me when others don't respect a sport just because they don't have experience with it.

Have a good one, king

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I only like handegg when they are portrayed in movies, outsid of that its just a boring sport for me.

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I_HATE_MCE [#2]

Soccer is so boring 😴

i thought American football was actually hype the way all the americans were dissing football saying its boring and nfl having more "action" but after watching regular game highlights this shit is so boring and the action is 75% of time just a guy reciving the egg from the back,running like 5m or getting stopped and then the same shit again ,please never criticize football if ur a active nfl watcher both games to watch outside of match highlights is so shit lol

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RickyIndian [#9]

center backs
left back
right back
LM
RM
RW
LW
CDM
Striker
Keeper

Nowadays its:

GK
LB or LWB (left back or left wing back)
RB or RWB (right back or right wing back)
CB (center backs)
These homies are the fullbacks.

Next we have the MFs (midfielders)
CM (center mid. these guys are pretty much all rounders in both offense and defense)
CAM (center attack mid. these guys specialize more in creating opportunities for attack)
CDM (center defensive mid. these guys are more defense specialists)

Next we have the offense
ST (strikers. these are the closest to the opponent goal, prioritize scoring)
CF (they are basically strikers)

Hybrids

LW (left wing, they can act as a part of the midfield, or can also act as a striker)
RW (same as left wing)

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you got any good stadium chants/fan clips you could link (for american football)

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bakabakaisthebaka
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LM and RM barely exist anymore and there is a CAM + 1 or 2 CM

isnt LM and RM basically LW and RM now? they basically act in the same capacity, but LW and RW have more scoring opportunities

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soccer is more fun to play, but boring to watch. football is the reverse

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you got any good stadium chants/fan clips you could link (for american football)

https://youtu.be/f-zv8m0LYeU

crowd was so loud and rowdy that michigan could not even make a play

you can't even hear the referee on the loud speaker

https://youtu.be/E1BBhqWDJJQ

first clip is amazing too, 110k people singing a song together for their team is awesome.

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RickyIndian [#36]

https://youtu.be/f-zv8m0LYeU

crowd was so loud and rowdy that michigan could not even make a play

you can't even hear the referee on the loud speaker

https://youtu.be/E1BBhqWDJJQ

first clip is amazing too, 110k people singing a song together for their team is awesome.

yeah that first clip is crazy.
kinda funny the home team trying to hype the crowd up even more to make it even harder to hear in the timeout.

the college scene for american sports is a pretty unique bi-product of franchising

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u can't fool me, i watch NFL and it's boring as hell, Soccer/futbol > handegg

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