Only 10 teams in total. Franchising was a mistake
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That kinda sucks. Even in LoL they have more regions than just 3 so international tournaments feel exciting.
Like imagine tournament with only these teams(example): NRG, 100T, LEV, FNC, TL, NAVI, GIA, DRX, PRX, ZETA
would be banger games but feels boring in my opinion. Quality of every game will be high, but its just like if they skipped groups and went to playoffs straight away.
patuj [#4]That kinda sucks. Even in LoL they have more regions than just 3 so international tournaments feel exciting.
Like imagine tournament with only these teams(example): NRG, 100T, LEV, FNC, TL, NAVI, GIA, DRX, PRX, ZETA
would be banger games but feels boring in my opinion. Quality of every game will be high, but its just like if they skipped groups and went to playoffs straight away.
A bit of a quick turnaround considering Masters, LCQ, and Champions are going to be held in back-to-back months.
patuj [#4]That kinda sucks. Even in LoL they have more regions than just 3 so international tournaments feel exciting.
Like imagine tournament with only these teams(example): NRG, 100T, LEV, FNC, TL, NAVI, GIA, DRX, PRX, ZETA
would be banger games but feels boring in my opinion. Quality of every game will be high, but its just like if they skipped groups and went to playoffs straight away.
LOL is a China-Korea party, no fun at all
Cayub [#6]LOL is a China-Korea party, no fun at all
True, but at least you have EU and even NA who can't compete but can still have some BO1 wins or at least have close games vs Korea/China and have some good games against each other. And then you have all these minor regions who can take BO1 games from EU and NA teams. And ofc there's competition between the minor teams. While Masters Valorant will just be like if Worlds was only LCK, LPL and LEC while all the other storylines and matchups would be completely wiped aka like if they just skipped play-ins and groups and instantly went to playoffs.
patuj [#8]True, but at least you have EU and even NA who can't compete but can still have some BO1 wins or at least have close games vs Korea/China and have some good games against each other. And then you have all these minor regions who can take BO1 games from EU and NA teams. And ofc there's competition between the minor teams. While Masters Valorant will just be like if Worlds was only LCK, LPL and LEC while all the other storylines and matchups would be completely wiped aka like if they just skipped play-ins and groups and instantly went to playoffs.
All irrelevant matches
Cayub [#6]LOL is a China-Korea party, no fun at all
At least in league u still have direct slots for regions and sub regions. We might never see cinderella runs again at this rate
my_fav_team_is_M3C [#12]This season has only 1 masters right? And it's only 10 teams? LMFAO
I thought there were 2 masters tournaments?
Cayub [#9]All irrelevant matches
if they are all irrelevant then might as well just skip to finals....
unknown_trash [#13]I thought there were 2 masters tournaments?
First masters will be replaced by Lock In for 2023
Cayub [#16]First masters will be replaced by Lock In for 2023
Ohh that's not too great then ngl 😞. But I will take whatever I can get
haizzz [#14]so unchosen franchised teams wont even get a chance, how does that make sense from a competitive standpoint
unchosen? what
haizzz [#14]so unchosen franchised teams wont even get a chance, how does that make sense from a competitive standpoint
It doesn't, franchise sucks
brobeans [#17]so where do ascension teams come in? I feel like this will severely demotivate orgs from joining ascension. However, I’m sure they already knew riot’s system before us so idk
Ascension winners will qualify to play the top circuit next year
brobeans [#17]so where do ascension teams come in? I feel like this will severely demotivate orgs from joining ascension. However, I’m sure they already knew riot’s system before us so idk
I don't see why would any sane organization enter Valorant to play in Ascension for nothing, this esport is so dead and they keep making it worse
Olofboost [#23]I don't see why would any sane organization enter Valorant to play in Ascension for nothing, this esport is so dead and they keep making it worse
unfortunately the csgo knockoff is addicting and a good esport regardless of how much riot screws up. Majority of the NA pros haven’t even played in an actual valorant lan when the game has been out for 2-3 yrs which is insane. These orgs must really trust that Val will take off in the future
Prathades [#28]Is there going to be worlds/champs? With like 16 teams. 5 from each region 1 from master winner?
there will be champs, i doubt there will be 16 teams
unknown_trash [#13]I thought there were 2 masters tournaments?
the opening 30 team tournament in brazil is the first masters
Cayub [#16]First masters will be replaced by Lock In for 2023
Technically the Lock In is the replacement of first split that's why the winner will have direct slot to Masters. Rito announced VCT will have only one Masters and one Champions. There will be two splits between the masters and champions in which teams will get slots.
Dolphin [#35]tbf, we can't really complain considering we are getting a 30 team tournament as the first thing of the year
its a one time thing
Olofboost [#23]I don't see why would any sane organization enter Valorant to play in Ascension for nothing, this esport is so dead and they keep making it worse
Why would any org enter valorant in the previous era?? It wasn't a money machine to be playing valorant then so what's changed now?
SigmaMale [#38]its a one time thing
This won't be a consistent thing they just need more teams to open up the amount that qualify
stewie2k [#31]Franchise moment.
This is why open circuit csgo will always be better than this artificial scene propped up by riot. No one wants to watch the same 10 teams playing every tournament.
nobody likes Outsiders-Heroic finals mate
my_fav_team_is_M3C [#36]Technically the Lock In is the replacement of first split that's why the winner will have direct slot to Masters. Rito announced VCT will have only one Masters and one Champions. There will be two splits between the masters and champions in which teams will get slots.
VCT will have 2 Masters + Champions from 2024 onwards
Olofboost [#23]I don't see why would any sane organization enter Valorant to play in Ascension for nothing, this esport is so dead and they keep making it worse
Sadly true, I doubt if big orgs are even that interested to invest in the tier 2 scene like Ascension considered that it will not generate lots of views compared to tier 1 scene that will get promoted like crazy by the Riot team since we knew most casual viewers are looking forward more to the tier 1 and wouldn't care much for the tier 2 scene.
raka [#41]no problem, new CS will be released within 2 years and valorant will officially die
have u confirmed it ?? is there any news
patuj [#15]if they are all irrelevant then might as well just skip to finals....
That brazilian guy thinks Tournament should wrap up in 2 days 1st day korea vs china 2nd day final
alitmanus [#33]EMEA and asian fans crying bcuz they know it'll be gigachad americas with 4 teams
we OWN you
I thought italy was emea and brazilians cannot make into masters this time trust me
HockeyStick [#51]I thought italy was emea and brazilians cannot make into masters this time trust me
whatever we already won champions
DRX may be in masters, not bcuz they're good, but bcuz asia sucks
also, there's no italian team or player in franchise.
Scar98 [#42]nobody likes Outsiders-Heroic finals mate
congrats on naming the only final together with krakow 2017 that had 2 fluke teams in finals for a game that has been going on for so long
zombzino [#46]just means we dont have to see trashchans like FUT or MIBR or EG play
if thats the case then make it 5 teams per region and the winner, only 3 teams is just insulting tbh
Vasudev [#48]how u know that ?
It will follow the same structure as last year:
Split 1 -> Masters 1 -> Split 2 -> Masters 2 -> Last Chance -> Champions
haizzz [#14]so unchosen franchised teams wont even get a chance, how does that make sense from a competitive standpoint
Unchosen franchised teams? Wtf are you talking about.
my brainless brothers there are only 30 teams as of now, so they have to save the 16 team big tournament for champions. in the coming years as the league grows to 40+ TEAMS we'll see probably a 16 team masters and 24 team champs. it wouldnt be a really special tournament if in 2022 they just invite 24 out of 30 teams
Cayub [#56]It will follow the same structure as last year:
Split 1 -> Masters 1 -> Split 2 -> Masters 2 -> Last Chance -> Champions
This is the part where I ask, source please.
Because as far as I'm aware from official sources, there have been zero announcement about what the VCT calendar would be beyond 2023.
However, it is implied the 2023 model are going to be the baseline moving forward, with LOCK//IN changed into the first International League split.
Cayub [#56]It will follow the same structure as last year:
Split 1 -> Masters 1 -> Split 2 -> Masters 2 -> Last Chance -> Champions
yes that;s much better structure i like it ; easy to understand
homeworkW [#58]my brainless brothers there are only 30 teams as of now, so they have to save the 16 team big tournament for champions. in the coming years as the league grows to 40+ TEAMS we'll see probably a 16 team masters and 24 team champs. it wouldnt be a really special tournament if in 2022 they just invite 24 out of 30 teams
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TMosura [#60]This is the part where I ask, source please.
Because as far as I'm aware from official sources, there have been zero announcement about what the VCT calendar would be beyond 2023.
However, it is implied the 2023 model are going to be the baseline moving forward, with LOCK//IN changed into the first International League split.
In the original VCT format announcement they mentioned they are getting rid of a normal international split to do the kick off tournament. So you can safely assume it will go back to that normal format https://youtu.be/pgyvZItV4J4
joellogic [#59]More teams would be nice. But perhaps they can make it up by creating a bigger group stage!
So excited. All these new rosters and teams look fantastic.
Can't wait!
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VinsmokeLaw [#63]In the original VCT format announcement they mentioned they are getting rid of a normal international split to do the kick off tournament. So you can safely assume it will go back to that normal format https://youtu.be/pgyvZItV4J4
"In normal years, our plan is to operate two international splits each season."
Accompanying the statement is a graphic of the calendar showing just that, without any mention of Masters or any events between Split 1 and Split 2.
Olofboost [#23]I don't see why would any sane organization enter Valorant to play in Ascension for nothing, this esport is so dead and they keep making it worse
Still Valorant will have 25 regional leagues worldwide by 8-10 org each. It's 200-250 tier 2 orgs or 1000-1250 tier 2 players competing. Ask your braincells does cs:go have such amount of orgs and players in tier 2 scene? LMAO
your fav game will be dead next day if bett companies stop finance it or Danish government stop finance Blast. Valorant got franchised and Riot developing tier 2 very well, Valorant will become as big as LOL in fps. Keep being cs joe clown here on vlr and spread hate comments - we will laughing at you
Scar98 [#42]nobody likes Outsiders-Heroic finals mate
bro tried to use something that happens once every 5 years at best as an example lmao
my_fav_team_is_M3C [#67]Still Valorant will have 25 regional leagues worldwide by 8-10 org each. It's 200-250 tier 2 orgs or 1000-1250 tier 2 players competing. Ask your braincells does cs:go have such amount of orgs and players in tier 2 scene? LMAO
your fav game will be dead next day if bett companies stop finance it or Danish government stop finance Blast. Valorant got franchised and Riot developing tier 2 very well, Valorant will become as big as LOL in fps. Keep being cs joe clown here on vlr and spread hate comments - we will laughing at you
And what these tier2 orgs gonna get from their leagues? No one will watch them, similarly to how no one watched EMEA VRLs. They'll just be losing tons of money on salaries over time, with no chance to make profits out of Valorant, because they're limited to their and only their regional division.
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