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Uxind [#5]Man vlr users are so funny.
Judging players based on a Bo1 showmatch with 0 price pool 💀💀💀
lol I’m sure this case it’s okay to see that chronicle and Leo r an upgrade based on a show match
Mortadelo [#2]Well, they're better than Enzo and Mistic, that's for sure xD
Not only that. Leo is one of the best initiators in the world. I think he is only behind Sacy and Shao. Imo he is better than crashies and stax. Chronicle is the best flex in this game (with only Saadhak being close to him). Guy knows how to play AT LEAST 10 agents and can perform well in high level.
Comparing them to Enzo, Mistic, Doma and Magnum is an insult.
Fnatic is a great contender to win Franchise/Masters/Champions next year.
Marshal_D_Teach [#7]Not only that. Leo is one of the best initiators in the world. I think he is only behind Sacy and Shao. Imo he is better than crashies and stax. Chronicle is the best flex in this game (with only Saadhak being close to him). Guy knows how to play AT LEAST 10 agents and can perform well in high level.
Comparing them to Enzo, Mistic, Doma and Magnum is an insult.
Fnatic is a great contender to win Franchise/Masters/Champions next year.
Numbers could fluctuate but in my opinion this lifts so much pressure off Alfajer and Derke, leo and chronicle are killing machines. If they have the same team play they use to have FNC has a bright future next year. And tbh so do FPX and Liquid.
I still can’t believe how did M3C manage to fall off with the talent they had
Marshal_D_Teach [#7]Not only that. Leo is one of the best initiators in the world. I think he is only behind Sacy and Shao. Imo he is better than crashies and stax. Chronicle is the best flex in this game (with only Saadhak being close to him). Guy knows how to play AT LEAST 10 agents and can perform well in high level.
Comparing them to Enzo, Mistic, Doma and Magnum is an insult.
Fnatic is a great contender to win Franchise/Masters/Champions next year.
How can Sacy and Shao be better than crashies when crashies can play all initiators, not just recon or flash? crashies is the best initiator in the world because he has the largest initiator agent pool while being good at it.
Uxind [#5]Man vlr users are so funny.
Judging players based on a Bo1 showmatch with 0 price pool 💀💀💀
Nope. Judging them based on their past achievements and consistent performances in the past actually, not off a bo1 showmatch.
gamr [#9]How can Sacy and Shao be better than crashies when crashies can play all initiators, not just recon or flash? crashies is the best initiator in the world because he has the largest initiator agent pool while being good at it.
All initiators are flash or recon/spot (sacy plays fade also) what
Mortadelo [#8]Numbers could fluctuate but in my opinion this lifts so much pressure off Alfajer and Derke, leo and chronicle are killing machines. If they have the same team play they use to have FNC has a bright future next year. And tbh so do FPX and Liquid.
I still can’t believe how did M3C manage to fall off with the talent they had
Mostly due to Russian conflict and no proper bootcamp and staffing. They barely managed to scrape through a coaching staff of sorts. Now we will see all of them in established orgs and all of them will slay
gamr [#9]How can Sacy and Shao be better than crashies when crashies can play all initiators, not just recon or flash? crashies is the best initiator in the world because he has the largest initiator agent pool while being good at it.
m8, comparing shao to crashies is an insult, shao can not only play every initiator but every agent in the game, crashies is a good player but not insanely good and he will never be
GreyDaze [#13]Mostly due to Russian conflict and no proper bootcamp and staffing. They barely managed to scrape through a coaching staff of sorts. Now we will see all of them in established orgs and all of them will slay
they had a bootcamp and coach wtf are you talking about
they lost due to having a trash duelist (d3ffo) and not trying to pick up someone to fill duelist (as it turns out jady cant fill chronicle's shoes, who could've fucking thought) + the like, idk 81058 ping they played on for the entire year
just unfortunate circumstances
idkbro [#14]m8, comparing shao to crashies is an insult, shao can not only play every initiator but every agent in the game, crashies is a good player but not insanely good and he will never be
Uncommon W
While I think chronicle is slightly overrated, and Crashies underrated, Shao clears both.
Sacy is by far the worst of the 3.
Piter [#12]All initiators are flash or recon/spot (sacy plays fade also) what
sacy plays fade and sova. rarely breach. he doesn't play kayo or skye. how could he possibly be compared?
idkbro [#14]m8, comparing shao to crashies is an insult, shao can not only play every initiator but every agent in the game, crashies is a good player but not insanely good and he will never be
nah honestly ur right. actually i dont know why I included shao in there. i was originally going to say that Shao is not a "true" initiator, he's a flex agent who is filling for FPX/NAVI's needs which is a sova/fade player
gamr [#9]How can Sacy and Shao be better than crashies when crashies can play all initiators, not just recon or flash? crashies is the best initiator in the world because he has the largest initiator agent pool while being good at it.
Actually there are 2/3 types of initiators: Recon(Sova, Fade) , flash (Breach) and Middle term (Kay0 and Skye). As initiator, you only have to master 1 or 2 of them, since the meta "demands" 2 initiators.
It's good to know how to play all of them? Yes. But is not a must to be considered a good initiator.
soulstalker [#11]skrossi clears both of them, lets wait for the sao paulo
only thing skrossi clears is curry
LouBag [#17]Uncommon W
While I think chronicle is slightly overrated, and Crashies underrated, Shao clears both.
Sacy is by far the worst of the 3.
chronicle better than shao imo, sacy overrated af but still good
NG1nS [#15]if fnatic doesn't finish 3rd at worst every event i'm gonna become a fnatic hater
this roaster is just too good
Anything but gold is a disappointment with this roster.
queueK [#25]Anything but gold is a disappointment with this roster.
Fnc roster is not much better than TL or NaVi’s by names. And that’s not even going outside EMEA. Having a good team is not just putting five names together
Mortadelo [#26]Fnc roster is not much better than TL or NaVi’s by names. And that’s not even going outside EMEA. Having a good team is not just putting five names together
true but still leo and chronicle are just too good that if fnatic doesn't win something this year i will agree with the people that say boaster and mini are the problem
queueK [#25]Anything but gold is a disappointment with this roster.
disappointment is common man. I'd love for boaster to lift a trophy but idk ive seen fnatic play their best and worse and it can never be certain
NG1nS [#27]true but still leo and chronicle are just too good that if fnatic doesn't win something this year i will agree with the people that say boaster and mini are the problem
Yes and no. If they don’t win anything then Boaster and mini might be the problem, but if they are a consistent top 3 world for example that’s not disappointing to me. Winning can’t be mandatory with this level, it’s just not fair. Leo and chronicle are insane, but so are Sayf and Nats, Shao and Suygetsu etc.
To put it in other terms, to me that’s like asking one of the best goalies in the world to save every penalty, as long as he saves a couple that’s not a disappointment
gamr [#19]nah honestly ur right. actually i dont know why I included shao in there. i was originally going to say that Shao is not a "true" initiator, he's a flex agent who is filling for FPX/NAVI's needs which is a sova/fade player
im pretty sure in NAVI's last game, shao played 5 different agents through all 5 games. He's a beast when it comes to flex, not even just initiator. Still remember his omen on split, monstrous
gamr [#30]i said nothing about Leo.
You said crashies is the best Initiator in the world. That implies him and every other initiator xD
Prontera [#31]It's kinda hard still to put them over Navi regionally. I believe they can go toe to toe with TL tho.
I'm not sure either about international event, but I expect them to always be on top 4 next year at every single tournament they attend. Less than that is a disappointment.
navi almost lost to parla
Mortadelo [#29]Yes and no. If they don’t win anything then Boaster and mini might be the problem, but if they are a consistent top 3 world for example that’s not disappointing to me. Winning can’t be mandatory with this level, it’s just not fair. Leo and chronicle are insane, but so are Sayf and Nats, Shao and Suygetsu etc.
To put it in other terms, to me that’s like asking one of the best goalies in the world to save every penalty, as long as he saves a couple that’s not a disappointment
yeah i mentioned top 3 in my first post, but i really expect them to win something this year
NG1nS [#36]yeah i mentioned top 3 in my first post, but i really expect them to win something this year
Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if they did tbh, high hopes
Not only they are extremely good exercising their role, they are heavy fraggers as well.
Wich was the problem with Enzo and mistic.
Enzo and mistic were great support players, but if derke or alfajer wasn't carrying, the probability of one of the initiators so assume the game was thin.
Now, it's different.
Just look at the way chronicle sets himself up with those off angles, or the way Leo uses his abbilies to get one or two kills so often.
It's a completely different team now. Not even close I feel.
Also, from the mental point of view, chronicle already won a masters event. So he can bring that experience to the team.
Leo also looks like a very confident young man. With strong mental. And that might be of very good help to a team that struggle with the mental game in the past
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