Fnatic Fans Come.

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joellogic

Who's excited for the new fnatic roster??
Derke and alfa were already 2 incredible players on the same team. But now with Leo and chronicle??
Damnnn.
Can't wait to see them all together playing!

What are you looking forward to see?

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Liquid >>>

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nutab1e

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looking forward to seeing them choke repeatedly

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dexter000111

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Ngl Fnatic and Liquid look insane on paper
And we already know Navi are insane
Seems to me EU is about to dominate the year

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goofy ahh jinx

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dexter000111

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I'm dead serious
I don't even need to explain why Navi are insane

And each player on Fnatic and Liquid is insane individually. So yes they do look good on paper

The only questionable part I see is boaster. Not saying he's bad or anything, just haven't seen anything from him in the past year that yells top 3 international IGL

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nutab1e

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I'm dead serious
Goofy ahh jinx

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dexter000111

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I'm dead serious
They're all finishing top 5

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babysasuke

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You cant be "dead serious"

Fnatic and Liquid are flopping 100%

they do look good on paper

They picked up m3c players, which have not been strong in over a year. The only real pickup either of these teams made was Leo.

Going to get 2 teams of randoms overtaking them for 2-3rd trust

The only questionable part I see is boaster's IGLing.

Yeah he sucks lmfao, they would have needed to sign the 4 best players in their roles around Boaster to carry him to even have a hope of being competitive. Instead they have mid-tier and washed-tier

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WinterZ

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M3C not making LAN =/= M3C players being bad

nAts is still a top 1-2 sentinel in EMEA and Redgar is still a top 1-2 IGL in EMEA

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babysasuke

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yeah youre coping

Redgar part is right, but top 1-2 IGL in an IGL-less region isnt much of a feat. Top IGL in EMEA is middle aged.

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WinterZ

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Just out of curiosity

Where would you put nAts in the global sentinels ranking and where would you put Redgar in the global IGLs ranking?

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nutab1e

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nAts: 1
Redgar: 5

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WinterZ

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Agreed tbh

rare nutab1e emea support?

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babysasuke

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Not doing the sentinel one because we realistically haven't seen a Sentinel played in almost a year, players like dapr were always better than nAts. nAts has a massively inflated percpetion based on lurking around maps and cleaning up free kills, once that got exposed he was never the same powerhouse

Redgar maybe top 20 IGL in the world? Cleared by:
Ange0 Bonecold FNS Benkai Vanity Saadhak Laz Dephh Stellar Stax Shahzam Hazed POISED

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WinterZ

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Can you elaborate a lil bit for me regarding Laz, dephh, ShahZam, hazed, POISED and Vanity?

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babysasuke

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Zeta counterstatted to LBF against teams ranked higher with arguably more firepower (TL, PRX, DRX)

Dephh has IGL top 3 team XSET for (i believe) the entirety of the rosters, knows how to work with his coach, and can bounceback from losses and take lessons from every match to comeback stronger (obvious improvement thoughtout NA Challengers to disappointing Masters run to really respectable Champions performance)

ShahZam ran the meta for the first year of Valorant without a coach, only fell off because it took them too long to hire one, they hired someone with no experience, and they couldnt work together to figure it out. If they had a Chet or a Sykko I dont think SEN would have seen the falloff that they did (also some credit to his shitty victim attitude though)

hazed made that dogshit TSM roster look like an international contender before it blew up, gets dropped, goes to NRG and makes them a title contender as well with all new players

POISED took Dicey (which 100T dropped because he was a "Jett one trick") and got this roster from T2 to one of the best teams in NA while working around his players strengths

Vanity took 2 separate rosters to LAN, and specifically with C9 made sure that they were never out until the map was over. His stratbook doesnt run out and he keeps the team coordinated for the whole map without even having a hard carry on either roster.

Redgar: "Alright guys, play this round slow and wait for the enemy to take space, hope they dont check nAts and we can get a free numbers advantage"

continue thread →

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babysasuke

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would literally be the best IGLs in EMEA idk what youre wafflin about

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Itsover

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He's not coping, Gambit played quals with 60-70 ping from home when they lost org support, it would have been different from Gambit bootcamp where they have 20 ping, individually they are all still quite good and it shows on eu ranked leaderboards

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babysasuke

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We're still judging pro players by ranked stats in 2022?

They're all mid and fluked an International event then fell off hard

GG no next for SHITMEA

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Itsover

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They are all (except redgar who's pretty mid mechanically but he has his moments sometimes, kinda like ange1)10x better than any na player aim-wise, and you know it. You legit said that nats is worse than fucking dapr out of all players which is hilarious af since dapr has never dropped 30 in his entire career, no anchor player in NA can replicate performances like nats astra on ascent vs oglu

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babysasuke

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astra on ascent vs oglu

Are you listening to yourself?

I could replicate his performance against OMEGALULGLU and Im bronze

continue thread →

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Itsover

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Fnatic just need to replace b0tster with an actual igl and it they will be fine, unfortunately it won't happen anytime soon

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Kepin

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definitely the best version of fnatic. if they dont win anything next year, i lost words.

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babysasuke

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Getting diffed by Navi so no domestic titles

Cant win Internationally with Boaster

Sorry for your words brother, seems theyre already lost

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angelmrm

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Boaster op>>>>>> faze

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babysasuke

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The only position Boaster could slot in for FaZe is the bathroom attendant at the Starbucks they played LCQ from

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angelmrm

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Lol

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Kepin

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well u shut me down so fast. i dont what to say anymore.

maybe we can consider any grand final next year is a success for fnatic. kekw

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babysasuke

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Possible if they dont get diffed by lulquid regionally

no shot internationally

Expecting them out before quarters in Sao Paulo

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Like I said we are winning Champs

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nutab1e

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gm darling

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Shownu

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Its afternoon + I'm making coffee

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Itsover

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Fnatic can win champs only if they get zeddy instead of botster, or if boaster commits his time to nats aim routine and stops shooting like immortal 2 player.

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Shownu

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No one asked and no one cares.

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juho

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Tbh Im not expecting anything from them. The more expectations you keep, the more disappointed you get. Personally I think they won't be better than Liquid and NAVI but if they finally win something it'd be nice to see.

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C9 clears

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MerkFreeks

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just go in with zero expectations and you'll never be let down.

Fnatic historically have choked. Thats just factual, whether it changes this year will be a wait n see like all 29 other teams in the league.

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I just want to see leo do well, just like how I want the other 3 from the guild core to do well. That's why I'm supporting fnatic and team liquid, and koi in EMEA. I don't really care about the rest of the fnatic players.

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Fnatic wont win shit with mini and boaster, dont expect big things or you will be dissapointed