Question to Navi /FPX fan

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kuaci

is cNed an upgrade or equal to ardiis do you think?

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GreyDaze

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His op and Jett upgrade. Chamber downgrade and rifling slight downgrade. Overall almost equal I'd say. Ardiis is the 2nd best chamber itw and cned at one point was the best player itw. If anyone is going to fill ardiis' shoes,it's cned. He has the most potential among all players in franchising

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ardiis is the 2nd best chamber itw

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GreyDaze

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Name anyone other than yay who is better than him then

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cryo

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sad_gambit_fan

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lost to ardiis

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brobeans

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we’ll see. they’re 1-1 currently

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sad_gambit_fan

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its 2-1
did u forget?
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brobeans

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vlr says 1-1 ?

#41

bakabakaisthebaka

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Thats prob because the head to head doesn't include the match page that you are on.

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cooxs

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no its def 1-1 lol https://www.vlr.gg/130688/xset-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2022-lr2

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GreyDaze

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Got diffed by ardiis

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TheGanhervall

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Jamppi

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sad_gambit_fan

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not better than ardiis

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Raiden2k

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Sayf

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GreyDaze

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He is just out of top 5 sorry

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Raiden2k

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lmfao literally diffed yay playing chamber, name ur top 5 i bet itll be bs

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GreyDaze

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So he is better than yay?? Not saying sayf is bad by any means but yay had an off game. Yay,ardiis,derke,cryo and taco are all better than him

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Raiden2k

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he had 2nd highest acs that event what u on?, im glad hes on a better team now he can showcase his abilities

#25

GreyDaze

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I'm literally a TL fan and am glad sayf is on the team. U can maybe make an argument for him being top 5 but he is not better than ardiis or derke

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Raiden2k

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Time will tell thats all i can say.

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blazennn

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This isn’t real he won’t even be the Chamber on Liquid like💀

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Raiden2k

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they havent revealed what roles they will play, the only certain things are that redgar is the IGL/Vision and Nats smokes/lurk

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GreyDaze

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We don't know whether he will be. My bet is that he will be chamber on maps where raze is required(so jamppi can play raze) and jamppi will be chamber on maps where Jett is required(sayf can play jett)

continue thread →

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USCK

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I wouldn’t say his rifle is a downgrade

#3

sad_gambit_fan

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higher ceiling
lower floor
depends on how consistent he is
but i think he is equal with higher potential

#4

Gutssz

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ardiis = cNed
ardiis better Chamber
cNed better Jett

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GreyDaze

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Based

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alitmanus

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so they're still the same shit team that can't even take a map from DRX

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blazennn

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The only thing I think Ardiss has on cNed is he can flex Initiator or Cypher pretty comfortably

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koromast

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nonononono no ardiis cypher please thank you.

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ayayaay

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thjing

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If he keeps playing like this then upgrade

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Dokka

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Im not an FPX/NAVI fan but I would say it’s a bit of a downgrade. CNED is joining a new team which means there needs time to establish chemistry. Ardiis is far more flexible and was easily the second best chamber after yay.

I would say it’s a bit of a downgrade but not to the point where it’s a detriment to the team

Cned is still well
Cned world champs winner

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thjing

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Chemistry might be down but that should only be fore the short term. Even when ardiis was in the lineup suygetsu and shao were considered FPXs 2 best players but since cned joined he’s been topping the scoreboard every match and just from the eye test this looks like prime cned or even better

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Achroma

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cned aim duel better, but in decision making + agent pool ardis better.

i'm not NAVI fan

#29

blazennn

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OP aim
Its debatable wether Ardiss has better rifle aim than cNed

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Valgod

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Ardiis is more consistent and has a bigger agent pool but cned more flashy and has like 3 4k rounds every game

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cned has aim and brains to play any character. I'm pretty sure he would drop at least 20 with any character in every game on a good team but why make him play raze or neon or kayo when he diffs everyone with op and jett????

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cned is much better duelist

#44

fdzs

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cNed makes 2x times more FK than Ange1 FD, so its a huge upgrade 😸