is cNed an upgrade or equal to ardiis do you think?
Im not an FPX/NAVI fan but I would say it’s a bit of a downgrade. CNED is joining a new team which means there needs time to establish chemistry. Ardiis is far more flexible and was easily the second best chamber after yay.
I would say it’s a bit of a downgrade but not to the point where it’s a detriment to the team
Cned is still well
Cned world champs winner
Gutssz [#4]ardiis = cNed
ardiis better Chamber
cNed better Jett
so they're still the same shit team that can't even take a map from DRX
GreyDaze [#2]His op and Jett upgrade. Chamber downgrade and rifling slight downgrade. Overall almost equal I'd say. Ardiis is the 2nd best chamber itw and cned at one point was the best player itw. If anyone is going to fill ardiis' shoes,it's cned. He has the most potential among all players in franchising
ardiis is the 2nd best chamber itw
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Qwertyy [#9]ardiis is the 2nd best chamber itw
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Name anyone other than yay who is better than him then
Dokka [#7]Im not an FPX/NAVI fan but I would say it’s a bit of a downgrade. CNED is joining a new team which means there needs time to establish chemistry. Ardiis is far more flexible and was easily the second best chamber after yay.
I would say it’s a bit of a downgrade but not to the point where it’s a detriment to the team
Cned is still well
Cned world champs winner
Chemistry might be down but that should only be fore the short term. Even when ardiis was in the lineup suygetsu and shao were considered FPXs 2 best players but since cned joined he’s been topping the scoreboard every match and just from the eye test this looks like prime cned or even better
GreyDaze [#21]He is just out of top 5 sorry
lmfao literally diffed yay playing chamber, name ur top 5 i bet itll be bs
Raiden2k [#22]lmfao literally diffed yay playing chamber, name ur top 5 i bet itll be bs
So he is better than yay?? Not saying sayf is bad by any means but yay had an off game. Yay,ardiis,derke,cryo and taco are all better than him
GreyDaze [#23]So he is better than yay?? Not saying sayf is bad by any means but yay had an off game. Yay,ardiis,derke,cryo and taco are all better than him
he had 2nd highest acs that event what u on?, im glad hes on a better team now he can showcase his abilities
Raiden2k [#24]he had 2nd highest acs that event what u on?, im glad hes on a better team now he can showcase his abilities
I'm literally a TL fan and am glad sayf is on the team. U can maybe make an argument for him being top 5 but he is not better than ardiis or derke
GreyDaze [#25]I'm literally a TL fan and am glad sayf is on the team. U can maybe make an argument for him being top 5 but he is not better than ardiis or derke
Time will tell thats all i can say.
Raiden2k [#24]he had 2nd highest acs that event what u on?, im glad hes on a better team now he can showcase his abilities
This isn’t real he won’t even be the Chamber on Liquid like💀
Gutssz [#4]ardiis = cNed
ardiis better Chamber
cNed better Jett
The only thing I think Ardiss has on cNed is he can flex Initiator or Cypher pretty comfortably
Achroma [#11]cned aim duel better, but in decision making + agent pool ardis better.
i'm not NAVI fan
blazennn [#27]This isn’t real he won’t even be the Chamber on Liquid like💀
they havent revealed what roles they will play, the only certain things are that redgar is the IGL/Vision and Nats smokes/lurk
blazennn [#27]This isn’t real he won’t even be the Chamber on Liquid like💀
We don't know whether he will be. My bet is that he will be chamber on maps where raze is required(so jamppi can play raze) and jamppi will be chamber on maps where Jett is required(sayf can play jett)
GreyDaze [#31]We don't know whether he will be. My bet is that he will be chamber on maps where raze is required(so jamppi can play raze) and jamppi will be chamber on maps where Jett is required(sayf can play jett)
jamppi has been playing a shit ton of raze on stream so this could be true
Raiden2k [#32]jamppi has been playing a shit ton of raze on stream so this could be true
Yeah that's what I based my take on
GreyDaze [#33]Yeah that's what I based my take on
Jett and Chamber won’t be meta. It isn’t meta right now, and if chamber gets a expected nerf it won’t be then
brobeans [#34]we’ll see. they’re 1-1 currently
its 2-1
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blazennn [#28]The only thing I think Ardiss has on cNed is he can flex Initiator or Cypher pretty comfortably
nonononono no ardiis cypher please thank you.
sad_gambit_fan [#36]its 2-1
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⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠉⠉⠉⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⢭⣭⡙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⠀⢰⣾⡿⠣⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⣧⡘⠋⠀⣀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠿⠟⠛⠋⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣤⣀⣰⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣷⣦⣈⠛⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣷⣶⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠀⠀⠙⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⢿⡿⠋⠀⠀⠀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣤⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣦⣤⣤⣴⣿⣿⣿⣟⣡⣾⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠀⠀⠀
vlr says 1-1 ?
GreyDaze [#2]His op and Jett upgrade. Chamber downgrade and rifling slight downgrade. Overall almost equal I'd say. Ardiis is the 2nd best chamber itw and cned at one point was the best player itw. If anyone is going to fill ardiis' shoes,it's cned. He has the most potential among all players in franchising
I wouldn’t say his rifle is a downgrade
brobeans [#38]vlr says 1-1 ?
Thats prob because the head to head doesn't include the match page that you are on.
sad_gambit_fan [#36]its 2-1
did u forget?
⢀⣠⣄⣄⣤⣠⣀⡀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣤⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⠿⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣿⣿⣧⣀⣀⣀⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣤⣤⣤⣤⣤⣭⣭⣿⣿⣿⣿⡀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣀⢀⣀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣶⣶⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣦⡀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇
⢀⣶⣾⣿⣿⡄⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣶⣄⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇
⠘⠿⠿⠿⠿⠃⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠁⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⢻⣛⡋⠁
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⠿⠿⣿⣿⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠛⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠟⠋⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣿⣿⣏⣀⣀⣀⣀⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣶⣶⣶⣤⣾⣿⣧⡀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠉⠉⠉⠉⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⢭⣭⡙⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⠀⢰⣾⡿⠣⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⢿⣿⣿⣧⡘⠋⠀⣀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠿⠟⠛⠋⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣤⣀⣰⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣷⣦⣈⠛⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢰⣿⣿⣷⣶⣶⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠀⠀⠙⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⠿⢿⡿⠋⠀⠀⠀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣤⠀⠀⠀⠀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⠟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣾⣿⣦⣤⣤⣴⣿⣿⣿⣟⣡⣾⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠛⠀⠀⠀
no its def 1-1 lol https://www.vlr.gg/130688/xset-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2022-lr2