What's wrong with this guy? He is literally asking for two innocent players livelihood to be destroyed when his whole career depends on players feeding him leaks! Also, I get his shahz angle. Shahz streams a lot so he thinks shaz doesn't care, right? But tenz? The guy barely streams despite being one of the most popular pros. I don't get why he is so mad at them.
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babysasuke [#2]Dont ever question Weorge Weddes
you are defending brits and french I'm starting to think you're SHITMEA?????
nutab1e [#6]you are defending brits and french I'm starting to think you're SHITMEA?????
you caught me
Im from Whales
hmmmmm i see your point, but again shahzam is part of the issue with his stream schedule like forget the hate and whatever, shahzam still refuses to not stream every single tournament he played in, even 1 or 2 day before his matches and even in lcq(although that was for the whole team).
Listen man u can't deny there's a streaming culture going on with SEN, you saw how zellsis blew up right? evey single new player will want that more than to compete ultimately(zombs) and SEN is telling u we're not about that.
they ultimately want to break through that culture and be just competitive and for that they're letting go of TENZ(probably)
George didn't have to say it like that imo, but he's saying what he heard and actually i respect SEN a lot bcz they're sacrificing a shit ton of clout to make this pure competitive and serious system, i genuinly love what they're doing.
don't feel bad TENZ doesn't need SEN, and shahz probably too
NRG, EG did better than SEN in the past year - 90% of their roster is cut. Will from 100T qualified for champs - got cut from his team. C9 mitch had better matches than TenZ in the last year - cut from the team. The list goes on for players who played better than TenZ and Shazam and they dont have a chance in franchised league
BUT somehow supporters of Tenz and Shaz think they deserve to play in the franchised league. If they are so good, they should be able to prove themselves just like everyone else has to.
FlyingDoggoWoweeClap4 [#5]Common Leorge Leddes L
people gagging on his cock so hard rn because of the leak
just wait till february and yall will start hating on him again LMAO
right! People used to hate him for his shitty personality and how he treated another reporter but now it seems he can even call for pros to be cut from roster but people wouldn't care cz he is giving them the juice lol.
SaltyMcNulty [#4]Always knew he has agendas against these two.
A lot of pros don’t like him, he’s a shitty person tbf especially since that Wardell situation. He’s kinda cringe.
wohe [#12]hmmmmm i see your point, but again shahzam is part of the issue with his stream schedule like forget the hate and whatever, shahzam still refuses to not stream every single tournament he played in, even 1 or 2 day before his matches and even in lcq(although that was for the whole team).
Listen man u can't deny there's a streaming culture going on with SEN, you saw how zellsis blew up right? evey single new player will want that more than to compete ultimately(zombs) and SEN is telling u we're not about that.
they ultimately want to break through that culture and be just competitive and for that they're letting go of TENZ(probably)
George didn't have to say it like that imo, but he's saying what he heard and actually i respect SEN a lot bcz they're sacrificing a shit ton of clout to make this pure competitive and serious system, i genuinly love what they're doing.
don't feel bad TENZ doesn't need SEN, and shahz probably too
I get what you are saying about shahz but tenz doesn't even stream that much. He streams way less than some other players like cryo, Asuna, xeppa etc. So, a guy should lose his job bc of people's perception that is not based on truth? SEN milked TenZ for content now it's his fault that he became popular? That makes no sense.
kskm [#13]NRG, EG did better than SEN in the past year - 90% of their roster is cut. Will from 100T qualified for champs - got cut from his team. C9 mitch had better matches than TenZ in the last year - cut from the team. The list goes on for players who played better than TenZ and Shazam and they dont have a chance in franchised league
BUT somehow supporters of Tenz and Shaz think they deserve to play in the franchised league. If they are so good, they should be able to prove themselves just like everyone else has to.
I am not even a huge supporter or anything. It's just feels wrong and ironic that a valorant reporter can call for peoples head. I mean he isn't an opinion writer or anything either. Pros get dropped all the time and that's fine but he said they don't care about winning and I wanted to understand the basis of it.
HuntersFury [#19]I get what you are saying about shahz but tenz doesn't even stream that much. He streams way less than some other players like cryo, Asuna, xeppa etc. So, a guy should lose his job bc of people's perception that is not based on truth? SEN milked TenZ for content now it's his fault that he became popular? That makes no sense.
no no no i agree with TENZ, i think how george made him as a bad aspect of the team is really wrong from him, what he should've said probably is that keeping TENZ would make all the new comers want to get some of his streaming clout that he brings naturally with him (not his fault whatsoever if what george said is true then the ORG would have really mistreated him) and they decided to start a competitive system in their team away from streaming and so
yeah in conclusion: Tenz have nothing to do with that streaming aspect, it was wrong of george to limp him with shahz like that
Shawn23 [#18]A lot of pros don’t like him, he’s a shitty person tbf especially since that Wardell situation. He’s kinda cringe.
Yeah but saying they should just retire as a random vlr users and and as a well known figure in the community are different things. Also, it's quite bit ironic that he implies tenz/shahz are not deserving, doesn't work hard when he would be jobless if people didn't feed him info.
SaltyMcNulty [#26]Yeah but saying they should just retire as a random vlr users and and as a well known figure in the community are different things. Also, it's quite bit ironic that he implies tenz/shahz are not deserving, doesn't work hard when he would be jobless if people didn't feed him info.
bro if it takes one "well known figure" to say you should lose your job, and you actually do because if it, maybe your job wasnt as secure as you thought it was
George is ultra prone to recency bias, and every time a team performs poorly he underrates the players massively, but realistically there's something to be said about TenZ value as a player. Even if he's still on top mechanically, do you really wanna build a team around him? Dude seems to give no fucks about strategy, and the only time a team with him found real success was when as shahz said: "they were letting him do what he wanted". That seems like an unsustainable approach. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if tenz didnt manage to find a spot on a franchised teams, when there are plenty of players not that much less skilled than him ready to put in hours where tenz isin't
Pope [#29]George is ultra prone to recency bias, and every time a team performs poorly he underrates the players massively, but realistically there's something to be said about TenZ value as a player. Even if he's still on top mechanically, do you really wanna build a team around him? Dude seems to give no fucks about strategy, and the only time a team with him found real success was when as shahz said: "they were letting him do what he wanted". That seems like an unsustainable approach. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if tenz didnt manage to find a spot on a franchised teams, when there are plenty of players not that much less skilled than him ready to put in hours where tenz isin't
can’t change the fact that he’s one of, if not the most, mechanically gifted players in the game. last year SEN had no real coaching staff which i believe played a huge part in why he seemed “out of control” in most of their matches. i’d give him a chance under a legit coaching staff with 4 months of preparation
empty0307 [#30]can’t change the fact that he’s one of, if not the most, mechanically gifted players in the game. last year SEN had no real coaching staff which i believe played a huge part in why he seemed “out of control” in most of their matches. i’d give him a chance under a legit coaching staff with 4 months of preparation
I really want to see him compete at the highest level, but him potentially going Wardell's route wouldnt surprise me
Pope [#29]George is ultra prone to recency bias, and every time a team performs poorly he underrates the players massively, but realistically there's something to be said about TenZ value as a player. Even if he's still on top mechanically, do you really wanna build a team around him? Dude seems to give no fucks about strategy, and the only time a team with him found real success was when as shahz said: "they were letting him do what he wanted". That seems like an unsustainable approach. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if tenz didnt manage to find a spot on a franchised teams, when there are plenty of players not that much less skilled than him ready to put in hours where tenz isin't
I mean if tenz said I don't wanna scrim or I don't wanna follow the script then I would have understood. He didn't elaborate on why he thinks TenZ is a lousy mfer who doesn't put in the effort and doesn't deserve it, so it's all speculation that's hurting a young players image. TenZ seem like a loveable guy, unless he is a shitty person and damn care guy behind the scene then I don't understand this hatred. He literally said I have never liked TenZ and ShahZam!
George has never been a good person or a likeable guy, he consistently tries to start shit with other pros and reporters while acting like he's a saint.
He's not a reporter he's a leaker, reporters actually follow the concepts of journalism, he is the joke of every pro in the scene.
Going on a podcast with someone like Thorin about Valorant doesn't really help his case either.
Don't let this offseason and the leaks he gets allow you to forget that he's a blight on the community.
HuntersFury [#16]right! People used to hate him for his shitty personality and how he treated another reporter but now it seems he can even call for pros to be cut from roster but people wouldn't care cz he is giving them the juice lol.
i won't forget how shitty human being he is towards other reporter OuttaPocket
Shawn23 [#18]A lot of pros don’t like him, he’s a shitty person tbf especially since that Wardell situation. He’s kinda cringe.
Wardell situation?
h9zard [#35]I'd be offended for Tenz (especially) and Shahz if this wasn't a podcast that had Thorin and Geometric in it.
Never thought geo to be this unhinged, like she was fueling George to be more hateful!
HuntersFury [#38]Never thought geo to be this unhinged, like she was fueling George to be more hateful!
I dont know if this is true but I thought one of the reasons she lost her job in VCT was she tried to make fun of tenz during an official broadcast and it backfired.
h9zard [#39]I dont know if this is true but I thought one of the reasons she lost her job in VCT was she tried to make fun of tenz during an official broadcast and it backfired.
ew wtf I thought she was cool before :(
h9zard [#39]I dont know if this is true but I thought one of the reasons she lost her job in VCT was she tried to make fun of tenz during an official broadcast and it backfired.
she's just shit at her job tbh, there were other moments where she kept making fun for crazy racoon for literally zero reason and the rest of the table just had to awkwardly laugh
He very much clearly has an agenda against Shahz and TenZ (For some reason). He even says that he doesn't like them at 1:15:20 which is so weird because not liking TenZ as a player is understandable, but as a person? The dude just minds his business and is so wholesome. The Woman on the right is speechless hearing what George is saying lol. I really believe this could get out of hand if it reaches Twitter. Crazy how no one caught this in the 3 days that the video was out. Granted, it barely has 7k views.
BigTiddyMilf [#42]He very much clearly has an agenda against Shahz and TenZ (For some reason). He even says that he doesn't like them at 1:15:20 which is so weird because not liking TenZ as a player is understandable, but as a person? The dude just minds his business and is so wholesome. The Woman on the right is speechless hearing what George is saying lol. I really believe this could get out of hand if it reaches Twitter. Crazy how no one caught this in the 3 days that the video was out. Granted, it barely has 7k views.
probably bc they refuse to leak him roster info unlike his buddy zombs lmao
This whole video was kinda weird tbh. i dont really agree with george's take. I completely understand why people in here are heated about it. Hating on tenz was super cringe. Only thing that kinda make sense was when they said tenz might not be motivated as other young players and could be the reason why tenz wont get picked. But still they cant really say that from outside point of view. Sentinels team and new coaches probably know way more about it and probably make decision on what works best for sentinels
SAMPV6 [#45]George is so dumb bro, and who tf is this Geo girl again?
Used to be a R6 caster also casted the valorant Berlin masters then got shadowbanned by Riot for some reason.
everyone on this sub talking like they know shit bro LMAO George has literally talked to people INSIDE sen and came to this conclusion ya mfs just mad that ya favorite streamers are getting called out for not caring about winning
not willing to put in the work = cut them from the roster its that simple cause like he said there are so many players willing to put in the work to win just like in normal pro sports.. no one who doesnt want to put in the work is safe from being benched
edit: idgaf about George but IF this is true it is fucked up that some people willing to put in the work dont have orgs but those who dont care do have a spot on a starting roster
hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard
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