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Americas franchise system with 5-3-2 slots (NA/BR/

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imatheussss

It's almost confirmed that NA is only gonna get 5 spots and I'm seeing some people complain about it, but the truth is NA is starting with a big advantage anyway, and here is why

Americas league will be placed in LA and I don't think anyone is gonna doubt it's the most stacked one (compared to EU and Pacifics) with Optic, Loud, Xset, Lev and some other great teams. If you think about it, due to geography, the teams from NA that don't make it into the franchise will have a massive advantage just because they can scrim with the franchise teams, while on the other side Latam and Br will only have each other to practice with (not to mention that they're gonna lose their 5 best teams), what are the odds for a Br/Latam team win ascension? It's most likely we're gonna see a new NA team making it into franchise every year, so the minimum Riot could do is give Br and Latam 5 spots from start.

And also, NA has a strong top 4/5, but their teams from the bottom would easily be smashed by a lot of BR teams such as Furia, Nip, TBK and VK, why would it be fair to a blended Americas league to give to a region way more slots than the others two, if they are not as competitive as some may think it's?

5 slots to NA is a lot already, if the teams are so good then they only have to win Ascencion, people want a stacked Americas league, not a league with a strong top 5 and a bad 6-10.

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W

#3
Gutssz
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EMEA: 8 EU 1 CIS 1 TR btw

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  • with the promotion it will be likely that it will be an american team so its not the end of the world
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idk why everyone's saying NA is sure to win the ascension tournaments, BR/LATAM could definitely win still.

but, if you're saying NA is sure to win these tournaments, then why should more slots be given to BR and LATAM? for representation? i thought everyone on this website wanted slots allocated to regions based on performance (EMEA fans during Champs 2021)? If NA has a strong top 5 and all those teams are in franchising, leaving a weak NA top 6-10, then BR/LATAM should win the ascension tournaments based on your logic.
(i'm not saying i agree with this^, i'm just trying to make a point)

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Subreezy [#5]

idk why everyone's saying NA is sure to win the ascension tournaments, BR/LATAM could definitely win still.

but, if you're saying NA is sure to win these tournaments, then why should more slots be given to BR and LATAM? for representation? i thought everyone on this website wanted slots allocated to regions based on performance (EMEA fans during Champs 2021)? If NA has a strong top 5 and all those teams are in franchising, leaving a weak NA top 6-10, then BR/LATAM should win the ascension tournaments based on your logic.
(i'm not saying i agree with this^, i'm just trying to make a point)

What do you agree with then? Have a real opinion you spineless fool

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nutab1e [#7]

What do you agree with then? Have a real opinion you spineless fool

why would i form an opinion based off of nothing substantial? at that point it wouldn't be an opinion, it would be a prediction.

my prediction is 5/3/2 NA/BR/LATAM, and I believe BR and LATAM can easily win the ascension tournaments. this game can change quickly in a year.

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Subreezy [#8]

why would i form an opinion based off of nothing substantial? at that point it wouldn't be an opinion, it would be a prediction.

my prediction is 5/3/2 NA/BR/LATAM, and I believe BR and LATAM can easily win the ascension tournaments. this game can change quickly in a year.

do you think that distribution of teams is optimal? Your meaningless 'point' that you make is nothing less than common bait

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nutab1e [#9]

do you think that distribution of teams is optimal? Your meaningless 'point' that you make is nothing less than common bait

i believe it is optimal. why are you so mad that i'm asking the original poster to think through his logic? worry about yourself king, your crown is slipping

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Subreezy [#10]

i believe it is optimal. why are you so mad that i'm asking the original poster to think through his logic? worry about yourself king, your crown is slipping

I'm not a king and never claimed to be all good. It only takes a thread to make you say something of substance thank you for your input

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personally id rather 5-3-2 makes the most sense to me.

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Finally a W post. As someone from NA the amount of fellow NA-ers crying over not having enough team slots is embarrassing. 5 makes enough sense on its own (it's half the entire Americas league, after all), and Riot is supposedly going to expand the leagues each year meaning more chance of NA teams getting in anyway. LATAM getting two slots is sensible (KRU and LEV, or FUSION instead of LEV if they want a LATAM-North rep) and Brazil getting 3 (LOUD + FURIA + someone else, not sure) also makes sense.

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Subreezy [#5]

idk why everyone's saying NA is sure to win the ascension tournaments, BR/LATAM could definitely win still.

but, if you're saying NA is sure to win these tournaments, then why should more slots be given to BR and LATAM? for representation? i thought everyone on this website wanted slots allocated to regions based on performance (EMEA fans during Champs 2021)? If NA has a strong top 5 and all those teams are in franchising, leaving a weak NA top 6-10, then BR/LATAM should win the ascension tournaments based on your logic.
(i'm not saying i agree with this^, i'm just trying to make a point)

In Brazil we have 5 good teams, Loud, Furia, TBK, Nip and VK, we will completely lose 2 of them, and there will be a blend of nip/vk/kru/tbk for the 3rd spot, which means we will only have tbk and one other good team in brazil regionals league, it's not enough, from my point of view, to compete against NA regionals because the scrim level is gonna be way different, I don't think the odds favour BR/Latam to win Ascension, but that doesn't mean I don't favour all the 5 SA franchised teams to win against the top 6-10 from NA, so why would NA get their spots if they are not better? Of course I could be wrong and with the best 3 from BR leaving we could see some new good teams rising, but I'm being realistic

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imatheussss spitting FACTS

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IDC if the LEV org makes it but those 5 players(or at least 3 of them together) deserve to be in franchising. I feel the same way about XSET where they have a few standout STARS but might not have the org to make it through

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imatheussss [#14]

In Brazil we have 5 good teams, Loud, Furia, TBK, Nip and VK, we will completely lose 2 of them, and there will be a blend of nip/vk/kru/tbk for the 3rd spot, which means we will only have tbk and one other good team in brazil regionals league, it's not enough, from my point of view, to compete against NA regionals because the scrim level is gonna be way different, I don't think the odds favour BR/Latam to win Ascension, but that doesn't mean I don't favour all the 5 SA franchised teams to win against the top 6-10 from NA, so why would NA get their spots if they are not better? Of course I could be wrong and with the best 3 from BR leaving we could see some new good teams rising, but I'm being realistic

i think if 2 top teams from brazil do not make it into franchising (and they stay together), that team can easily win the ascension tournament. if NA teams scrim with top teams (which there really isn't anything you can do to fix that) and they become better as a result, then that team should win the ascension tournament. i think this ascension tournament will help prove what regions deserve their slots in franchising.

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