FPX and XSET both didnt call the bug out.
Riot called the remake cuz of the bug.
XSET agreed to remake and play, instead of just not replaying and taking the loss.
I feel especially cuz its a 1 million dollar tournament, replaying for the business is fair. Most orgs would accept the replay.
Its fkn bs that riot cant fix these bugs and that the bug had to be caught by an observer to have something done about it.
my take:
xset shouldnt be fkd cuz of the bug and deserved the replay
capital_d_colon [#2]Ange1 feels like that xset shouldnt had accepted to replay the round
Don't you get a fined? If you don't expect?
zeldrols [#4]Wrong of riot to ask for a replay. Xset should have deny a replay. All and all really shitty situation that could have been avoided by Riot. Angel had most based correct take during post match interview.
i've heard there could be a fine for not playing it out. idk how true this is, but it's more incentive to play it out.
capital_d_colon [#2]Ange1 feels like that xset shouldnt had accepted to replay the round
I don't think you can fault someone for taking advantage of a system like this. It's in the rules that everyone agrees to by competing, and XSET wasn't the one who initiated it. I don't think I could honestly tell a group of players that they shouldn't take an arguably deserved second chance at winning the biggest tournament they've ever competed in.
capital_d_colon [#2]Ange1 feels like that xset shouldnt had accepted to replay the round
Pretty sure the org would punish the players if they didnt accept the repay
charizard_123 [#10]Most orgs would accept the replay.
While this is true, I don't think it justifies it. I don't think it's the right thing to do, unless they agree with Riot's decision, but zekken's tweet makes me believe they don't (but still could tbf). It's a matter of sportsmanship.
Orgs dont gaf. It's literally a difference of $240K USD, why would they ever tell their players to deny a replay in favor of sportsmanship?
Noodle [#7]the only correct decision for XSET is to accept the replay for the org but go for knife fights at mid until someone wins, then if FPX shoots they become the bad guys
W of the situation: Noodle
capital_d_colon [#2]Ange1 feels like that xset shouldnt had accepted to replay the round
I don't get this point, why wouldn't XSET want to replay the round when they are playing in the biggest tournament of the year and it came out they lost because of false information given out because of a bug. Rewatching the round, you can clearly see Dephh thought there was a player in heaven and that put AYRIN and Zekken in a 2v2 against Ange1 and Shao, and if Dephh knew that there was nobody heaven and he didn't have to watch it he would have been in perfect position to trade out AYRIN's death, then possibly get traded then that kill gets traded by Zekken peeking from main. I bet if FPX was in the same situation they would have replayed
CringePlayer [#13]Orgs dont gaf. It's literally a difference of $240K USD, why would they ever tell their players to deny a replay in favor of sportsmanship?
Do you think most of the orgs are rich, lmao? It's $240K
Subreezy [#8]i've heard there could be a fine for not playing it out. idk how true this is, but it's more incentive to play it out.
had both teams decided to not play and got fined would have painted Riot as a shitty company. Now xset name getting drag in there too.
Noodle [#7]the only correct decision for XSET is to accept the replay for the org but go for knife fights at mid until someone wins, then if FPX shoots they become the bad guys
least gigachad DRX fan
jawn [#17]XSET have every right to accept a replay after a bug altered not only the round but the entire series
WOAH CALM DOWN IM AN NA FAN AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ONLY REPLAYED FROM 11-12 FPX WON FAIRLY IN THE END BUT HOW EU FANS ARE HANDLING IT IS TOO FUNNY
NA>>EU
zeldrols [#19]had both teams decided to not play and got fined would have painted Riot as a shitty company. Now xset name getting drag in there too.
who knows the backlash from the org for not playing it out either? there's a lot of things that as viewers we can't really speak more on. i just think they had a right to agree with riot.
CringePlayer [#13]Orgs dont gaf. It's literally a difference of $240K USD, why would they ever tell their players to deny a replay in favor of sportsmanship?
then blame the org, sure. But It doesn't seem like the org really forced them, it could be the true and in that case fuck XSET, but it seems to me the players were ok with it too, after seeing zekken's deleted tweet
Dybala21 [#24]Oh boy what did i miss? I went to sleep after Drx match so I didn’t know anything
DAMN. u missed a lot
Subreezy [#22]who knows the backlash from the org for not playing it out either? there's a lot of things that as viewers we can't really speak more on. i just think they had a right to agree with riot.
well xset getting more hate now lol
nezuvalorant [#21]WOAH CALM DOWN IM AN NA FAN AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE ONLY REPLAYED FROM 11-12 FPX WON FAIRLY IN THE END BUT HOW EU FANS ARE HANDLING IT IS TOO FUNNY
NA>>EU
when did they start the replay? I saw the OT from 12-12
Dybala21 [#24]Oh boy what did i miss? I went to sleep after Drx match so I didn’t know anything
A very confused Valorant population hyped up by teenage angst.
sentinelmain377 [#25]DAMN. u missed a lot
Care to explain please for me what happened? Or is there a link that relates atleast
capital_d_colon [#2]Ange1 feels like that xset shouldnt had accepted to replay the round
xset said it was riots final decision in press conference, so dont think they had a choice here
Subreezy [#8]i've heard there could be a fine for not playing it out. idk how true this is, but it's more incentive to play it out.
idk. i honestly don't know what I think about this whole situation. but there might be more... riot is selecting orgs for franchise. XSET wouldn't want to go against riot on something big like champions i believe.
(idk if riot already close the orgs on NA. from what I've heard, BR was still open for grabs, but considering that the announcement should happen soon, riot may have selected)
Pixsy [#30]xset said it was riots final decision in press conference, so dont think they had a choice here
yeah, im just repeating what ange1 said in the press aswell
Dybala21 [#29]Care to explain please for me what happened? Or is there a link that relates atleast
Basically a turret bug thats been in the game for 2 years fcked up XSETs 24th round for OT since it shot heaven and i think ayren (EDIT MB it was dephh who held heaven but u get the picture) held heaven after that and they were at 3v2 to secure the round.
The bug : https://twitter.com/DSajoof/status/1569811915890917377?s=20&t=b3cms9JT5ccSeOLgUKG7nA
Riot ruled the bug out and they replayed the round all over, Xset secures the round for OT after the replay but FPX brought it back and took the series OT while clowning on Xset and calling them sore losers while Xset is trying to explain that Riot made the decision and not them. Basically a shitshow.
Kochan [#34]Basically a turret bug thats been in the game for 2 years fcked up XSETs 24th round for OT since it shot heaven and i think ayren (EDIT MB it was dephh who held heaven but u get the picture) held heaven after that and they were at 3v2 to secure the round.
The bug : https://twitter.com/DSajoof/status/1569811915890917377?s=20&t=b3cms9JT5ccSeOLgUKG7nA
Riot ruled the bug out and they replayed the round all over, Xset secures the round for OT after the replay but FPX brought it back and took the series OT while clowning on Xset and calling them sore losers while Xset is trying to explain that Riot made the decision and not them. Basically a shitshow.
Oh damn, why this kind of stuff happen when i’m asleep lol
Thanks
I think xset has the normal reaction and decision that teams would make in that situation. i mean, riot, a higher up and literally the company organizing everything is telling you to do something, not to mention you get a second chance in the biggest event of the year. anyone would take that. xset never asked first, they only accepted after being presented the choice by riot. i think the bug is stupid and that it happens all the time (which it shouldn't) but that's just how it is. if you replay this round you uncover like 50 instances in international events where other bugs happened that all of a sudden qualify for replay. so I don't think it should've been replayed, but it is SO unfortunate that it happened at 11-12 for them.
also fpx didn't know that xset didn't ask for the replay and that riot initiated it. so maybe their tweets are not as respectful, but it is literally past midnight there, they're exhausted, finally done playing after hours and were relaxed/celebrating. their hard work pays off for this win and want to prepare for next do-or-die match. then suddenly being told that they still have a chance of being eliminated and they have to play right then. especially over a dumb bug that shouldn't have happened, I would be so upset and anxious too.
both are not good positions to be in. we don't even know what would've happened if the turret didn't bug. fpx still had a chance of winning. or xset could've won in ot. but this is an international tournament, there are no "what ifs" random and stupid shit happens all the time and you just accept the outcome and move on. it is neither of the team's faults, especially xset as people are heavily blaming them right now. i think this is a very big mistake from riot (first the bug, then the decision to remake).
abcdefgh [#36]I think xset has the normal reaction and decision that teams would make in that situation. i mean, riot, a higher up and literally the company organizing everything is telling you to do something, not to mention you get a second chance in the biggest event of the year. anyone would take that. xset never asked first, they only accepted after being presented the choice by riot. i think the bug is stupid and that it happens all the time (which it shouldn't) but that's just how it is. if you replay this round you uncover like 50 instances in international events where other bugs happened that all of a sudden qualify for replay. so I don't think it should've been replayed, but it is SO unfortunate that it happened at 11-12 for them.
also fpx didn't know that xset didn't ask for the replay and that riot initiated it. so maybe their tweets are not as respectful, but it is literally past midnight there, they're exhausted, finally done playing after hours and were relaxed/celebrating. their hard work pays off for this win and want to prepare for next do-or-die match. then suddenly being told that they still have a chance of being eliminated and they have to play right then. especially over a dumb bug that shouldn't have happened, I would be so upset and anxious too.
both are not good positions to be in. we don't even know what would've happened if the turret didn't bug. fpx still had a chance of winning. or xset could've won in ot. but this is an international tournament, there are no "what ifs" random and stupid shit happens all the time and you just accept the outcome and move on. it is neither of the team's faults, especially xset as people are heavily blaming them right now. i think this is a very big mistake from riot (first the bug, then the decision to remake).
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