Fpx or Liquid or Loud or Leviatan or Prx?
Kirya [#2]Lev and FPX. Not sure which one is better out of them
if fpx quals then maybe we can find out in playoffs
Deadpoool [#11]if fpx quals then maybe we can find out in playoffs
Yeah Lev is best for now just FPX ascent used to be their best map and it got banned every game against them
BronzilianYoru [#20]The only team 16/1 in the map. Loud.
Leviatan lost at Ascent to shitty teams. yeah ik, they improved, but still.
same to FPX
BronzilianYoru [#22]Leviatan lost at Ascent to shitty teams. yeah ik, they improved, but still.
same to FPX
Yes, and LEV didn't lose ascent at any masters. Loud did
Enzolp [#23]Yes, and LEV didn't lose ascent at any masters. Loud did
only one time and in the finals, even in the Copenhagen poor performance ascent still was a guaranteed win
Enzolp [#23]Yes, and LEV didn't lose ascent at any masters. Loud did
There's no way to have the best Ascent in the world if you lose to Optix, Fusion etc
BronzilianYoru [#26]There's no way to have the best Ascent in the world if you lose to Optix, Fusion etc
When was that? When Shyy had 2 days in the team? Then I think vs optix he didn't played for them yet?
Yeah no, we're talking about now, and in their last vct 5 matches loud lost 1 and won 2. Then LEV I think they're 4-0?
Enzolp [#27]When was that? When Shyy had 2 days in the team? Then I think vs optix he didn't played for them yet?
Yeah no, we're talking about now, and in their last vct 5 matches loud lost 1 and won 2. Then LEV I think they're 4-0?
Shyy had 3 weeks in the team. Also, why are you contradicting yourself?
For you, a match on April 24th in the FINAL of a Masters (which Leviathan didn't achieve) is NOW.
But match on June 26th isn't NOW?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
BronzilianYoru [#28]Shyy had 3 weeks in the team. Also, why are you contradicting yourself?
For you, a match on April 24th in the FINAL of a Masters (which Leviathan didn't achieve) is NOW.
But match on June 26th isn't NOW?
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Ofc I'm comparing them as the now of LEV is more new than Loud???? As I said, betony and Shyy joining LEV didn't happen till June???
If you want we can count since June for both teams, that would be 2-0 loud and 4-0 Lev still LOL.
And no, he had 2 weeks on the team, then 2 days later of that loss in ascent they won ascent against the same team, that's how insane LEV improvement is:)
Enzolp [#29]Ofc I'm comparing them as the now of LEV is more new than Loud???? As I said, betony and Shyy joining LEV didn't happen till June???
If you want we can count since June for both teams, that would be 2-0 loud and 4-0 Lev still LOL.
And no, he had 2 weeks on the team, then 2 days later of that loss in ascent they won ascent against the same team, that's how insane LEV improvement is:)
bro, you can try to juggle all you want, but there's no way that JUNE is the present, and APRIL is not the present.
If we count since June like you said:
Leviatan: 6/1
Loud: 2/0 (maybe 3/0 in minutes)
Why? Because everyone knows Loud's Ascent is the best in the world, so it's always banned. The two teams that haven't banned since June, are excellent teams and lost the map anyway: Optic and Zeta (maybe Zeta again)
BronzilianYoru [#30]bro, you can try to juggle all you want, but there's no way that JUNE is the present, and APRIL is not the present.
If we count since June like you said:
Leviatan: 6/1
Loud: 2/0 (maybe 3/0 in minutes)Why? Because everyone knows Loud's Ascent is the best in the world, so it's always banned. The two teams that haven't banned since June, are excellent teams and lost the map anyway: Optic and Zeta (maybe Zeta again)
bro wins against zeta twice and to prove a point he calls them a "excellent team" LMAO.
Enzolp [#32]bro wins against zeta twice and to prove a point he calls them a "excellent team" LMAO.
Better than FUSION for sure
BronzilianYoru [#34]Better than FUSION for sure
well, we can take those 2 out
what do we have left?
Mixicious [#31]I'm not an Optic fan
but I'm sure they had a REALLY good Ascent
Ascent is one of the worst maps for Optic
Enzolp [#36]well, we can take those 2 out
what do we have left?
Optic, one of the top 3 teams in the world without a doubt.
edit: I just realized now, why do you want to take two wins from Loud and one defeat from Leviatan? It makes no sense to take the defeat LOL
BronzilianYoru [#41]Optic, one of the top 3 teams in the world without a doubt.
edit: I just realized now, why do you want to take two wins from Loud and one defeat from Leviatan? It makes no sense to take the defeat LOL
because they had shyy and betony for 2 weeks i said??? Because you wanted a more fair comparison. You understand only what you want lol
Enzolp [#42]because they had shyy and betony for 2 weeks i said??? Because you wanted a more fair comparison. You understand only what you want lol
Betony had been with Leviatan for over 1 month. And Shyy being 2 weeks or not, they LOST. There's no way a team that lost the map several times (during the circuit) or one time (since June as you said) is better than a team that lost the map ONE TIME (during the circuit) or NEVER LOST (since June like you said)
Mixicious [#31]I'm not an Optic fan
but I'm sure they had a REALLY good Ascent
They did at iceland, not so much anymore it seems
BronzilianYoru [#43]Betony had been with Leviatan for over 1 month. And Shyy being 2 weeks or not, they LOST. There's no way a team that lost the map several times (during the circuit) or one time (since June as you said) is better than a team that lost the map ONE TIME (during the circuit) or NEVER LOST (since June like you said)
Wtf, but why would you say they're the best when the only results they have are 2 times vs ZETA (they're not good, and even less on that map) and OPTIC who also does not play ascent???
You're saying this for Reykjavik, then again nothing recent, to the contrary of LEV, who all their matches in masters were less than two months ago against teams who DO play ascent.
It just does not make sense thia comparison you're making
Enzolp [#50]Wtf, but why would you say they're the best when the only results they have are 2 times vs ZETA (they're not good, and even less on that map) and OPTIC who also does not play ascent???
You're saying this for Reykjavik, then again nothing recent, to the contrary of LEV, who all their matches in masters were less than two months ago against teams who DO play ascent.
It just does not make sense thia comparison you're making
It's not Loud's fault that everyone bans the map, because you know, IT'S THE BEST ASCENT IN THE WORLD.
Again:
There's no way a team that lost the map several times (during the circuit) or one time (since June as you said) is better than a team that lost the map ONE TIME (during the circuit) or NEVER LOST (since June like you said)