- yay
- Jinggg
- f0rsaken
- Derke
- SUYGETSU
- ardiis
- Shao
- Marved
- ScreaM
- Alfajer
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mystbz1 [#3]hes better than everyone on xexia combined
yeah but not better than every other player on his team, cry
nutab1e [#5]yeah but not better than every other player on his team, cry
forskin is the best player on his team what a braindead take
HenHenry2903 [#11]1 - yay
2 - Jinggg
3 - Forsaken
4 - Aspas
5 - SUYGETSU
6 - Derke
7 - ScreaM
8 - Shao
9 - Marved
10 - Sacy
man really tried to sneak in aspas and sacy 💀
Skyss [#8]Where zmjkk?
Has to prove himself first, you can try to guess what their level is but not actually support with facts
PrTsty [#9]Asuna where?
Also marved is SO fucking underrated its insane, eh is easily better than yay imo, everytime Optic is about to lose he is the one stepping up and carrying them through
yay overrated imo
Marved is not better than any of the 7 above him rn
pretty reasonable list, its tough to rank the top 3, 5 or even 10 going INTO a tournament because it usually depends on players performances from months before or players that haven't performed on an international stage in a while (or ever), also taking different roles into account. maybe id have atleast 1 fpx player in the top 3 but maybe thats just emea bias lol
ShyftNot1 [#7]#1 finger BASED. nvm, it's yay. 1 trick chamber Bedge. what a joke, FPX won copenhagen and doesn't have a single player in top 4.
Should interchange yay and scream
Mortadelo [#17]Marved is not better than any of the 7 above him rn
I dont think you understand marveds value
- yay overrated
- forsaken overrated
- ardiis overrated
- shao underrated
- scream overrated
- jamppi underrated, easily top2 european players atm
- where tf is aspas? any1 who has a clue about the game can tell how fucking insane he is, just needs his team to not be complete dogshit, he is so complete its unbelievable
mystbz1 [#3]hes better than everyone on xexia combined
You don’t have to do us like that man XD but agreed f0rsaken is way better than everyone in xerxia
idkbro [#25]
- yay overrated
- forsaken overrated
- ardiis overrated
- shao underrated
- scream overrated
- jamppi underrated, easily top2 european players atm
- where tf is aspas? any1 who has a clue about the game can tell how fucking insane he is, just needs his team to not be complete dogshit, he is so complete its unbelievable
facts = downvote LULW
idkbro [#25]
- yay overrated
- forsaken overrated
- ardiis overrated
- shao underrated
- scream overrated
- jamppi underrated, easily top2 european players atm
- where tf is aspas? any1 who has a clue about the game can tell how fucking insane he is, just needs his team to not be complete dogshit, he is so complete its unbelievable
Literally the truth
idkbro [#25]
- yay overrated
- forsaken overrated
- ardiis overrated
- shao underrated
- scream overrated
- jamppi underrated, easily top2 european players atm
- where tf is aspas? any1 who has a clue about the game can tell how fucking insane he is, just needs his team to not be complete dogshit, he is so complete its unbelievable
Maybe downvote = bad takes. Ardiis was one of the if not the most consistent player in Copenhagen. And its not like they’re putting him on no. 1. how is he overrated?
jwise [#31]You don’t have to do us like that man XD but agreed f0rsaken is way better than everyone in xerxia
no forskin is better than everyone
Mortadelo [#27]Is Marved better than Shao?
Yes and better than ardiis, and shao is better than ardiis aswell
nutab1e [#5]yeah but not better than every other player on his team, cry
what happened to you nutab1e
jwise [#35]Maybe downvote = bad takes. Ardiis was one of the if not the most consistent player in Copenhagen. And its not like they’re putting him on no. 1. how is he overrated?
because there are better players, he is consistently very good but his peak isnt as high as others, I rate him a lot tho, also there is no way he is above shao lol, jamppi and aspas also should be higher than him, I am not saying he is bad just overrated in the list, he is top10 but not top6
nutab1e [#5]yeah but not better than every other player on his team, cry
hey! look at me, this isnt you! i know the real nutab1e wouldn't say these mean things! i see the goodness in you, please stop this kisses your forehead
PicKaRuu [#32]facts = downvote LULW
I dont even think I said anything crazy, literally just facts, like how can shao be lower than ardiis, yay is good but not top1, f0rsaken is not as good as people think he is very 1 dimensional, shao was literally mvp of the tournament he should be higher than ardiis and probably suygetsu too, jamppi is probably most underrated pro atm he has improved so much and has become a beast, easily a top3 players in europe, scream is 1 dimensional af like f0rsaken but has better aim and isnt as undisciplined, aspas is literally a god how is he not top10
lilcheese [#47]Yay #1? Who tf watches this shit seriously
Get used to it Plat Chat always favours NA its a meme at this point
BBL_Wtcn [#50]Get used to it Plat Chat always favours NA its a meme at this point
How this list was pretty much created:
Balla, Wyatt, and Mimi hard favor NA.
EMEA tends to be favored by Sideshow.
Wyatt loves Loud.
Balla hates DRX and most KR teams.
All of them love EDG but don’t want to look stupid with predictions.
And boom! You’ve got their top players list!
idkbro [#42]because there are better players, he is consistently very good but his peak isnt as high as others, I rate him a lot tho, also there is no way he is above shao lol, jamppi and aspas also should be higher than him, I am not saying he is bad just overrated in the list, he is top10 but not top6
Consistency is literally what separates actually good from worse. He was arguably best/2nd best Chamber in Masters 2 until FPX's final 2-3 games where he wasn't putting up as good of numbers but he didn't even have to.
Same situation as with player like Sayf. People still don't talk about him that much even tho he put up best Chamber stats in Masters 2 and even EMEA LCQ just because he isn't super flashy. Its like in CSGO(if you know) where you have flashy players like s1mple, and then you have players like device who was way more passive/boring and didn't have as many flashy moments. Both are insane and top 2 in their roles during peak form, but both play really different style.
Also in Ardiis case add the fact that he played good Jett and KayO as well.
PrTsty [#40]Yes and better than ardiis, and shao is better than ardiis aswell
Agree with Ardiis, he is the only one I wouldn’t have placed there. Other than that Marved is where he needs to be, and hell no he is not better than Shao
Mortadelo [#56]Agree with Ardiis, he is the only one I wouldn’t have placed there. Other than that Marved is where he needs to be, and hell no he is not better than Shao
Marved and shao are pretty even, they both carried their team when it mattered, just fhat marved does it every single tournament. And I know this for a fact. I used to root against optic in so many matchups ans mraved CRUSHED my hopes every single time
Mortadelo [#56]Agree with Ardiis, he is the only one I wouldn’t have placed there. Other than that Marved is where he needs to be, and hell no he is not better than Shao
even Sideshow, Wyatt and balla all put Marved about shao, because thats how its supposed to be, realistic. mimi just brought marved all the way down by placing him at 17 or sum shit
PrTsty [#9]Asuna where?
Also marved is SO fucking underrated its insane, eh is easily better than yay imo, everytime Optic is about to lose he is the one stepping up and carrying them through
yay overrated imo
I don’t agree with your notion that yay is not number 1. He has been the most consistent player on top of already being top 5 mechanical players.
I would like to hear who you think would be number one.
BBL_Wtcn [#50]Get used to it Plat Chat always favours NA its a meme at this point
wow its almost like people have regional biases and without them valorant would be a boring shithole
Lqwnmower [#71]ardiis doesnt really stand out to me i mean hes very good but i feel like he gets overshadowed by his teamates
I think he is overshadowed because he is so inconsistent
idkbro [#25]
- yay overrated
- forsaken overrated
- ardiis overrated
- shao underrated
- scream overrated
- jamppi underrated, easily top2 european players atm
- where tf is aspas? any1 who has a clue about the game can tell how fucking insane he is, just needs his team to not be complete dogshit, he is so complete its unbelievable
because aspas can dodge the ult jett "Scream" in the previous master, that's why it's often called the best player
MitiYa [#74]Lmao no mindfreak, hes better than f0rsaken overrated
even many rounds that PRX should have lost but Mindfreak won it, F0rsaken just good on ranked not on LAN, so jinggg/mindfreak > f0rsaken
eSBee [#6]TBH i really dont mind this list
bro these guys have a hate boner againsy emea suygetsu should be no1. alfajer over derke imo.and shao over ardiss
patuj [#54]Consistency is literally what separates actually good from worse. He was arguably best/2nd best Chamber in Masters 2 until FPX's final 2-3 games where he wasn't putting up as good of numbers but he didn't even have to.
Same situation as with player like Sayf. People still don't talk about him that much even tho he put up best Chamber stats in Masters 2 and even EMEA LCQ just because he isn't super flashy. Its like in CSGO(if you know) where you have flashy players like s1mple, and then you have players like device who was way more passive/boring and didn't have as many flashy moments. Both are insane and top 2 in their roles during peak form, but both play really different style.
Also in Ardiis case add the fact that he played good Jett and KayO as well.
even then ardiis isnt known for being consistent, he was consistent in masters 2 but he isnt specially consistent regularly, also there are simply better and more gifted players than him who are consistent, he is for sure a top top player but just not top6
Also how can you dare to compare devve to ardiis? What joke is this? Device rarely had a bad match, ardiis had a lot of bad maps before masters 2, being consistent is not the only factor that separetas good from worse, some players are simply more gifted and better than others even if less consistent, also people dont talk about sayf because 90% of valorant fanbase are dogshit players who dont know who is good and who is bad, sorry but you simply can argue ardiis is better than shao and even others like jamppi, ardiis is for sure top10 player in the event but still overrated in the platchat rankings which is what I meant, doesnt mean he is bad tho, I personally think f0rsaken is overrated af but he is still a great player, overrated =/= bad
lilcheese [#47]Yay #1? Who tf watches this shit seriously
highest impact out of any player in the playoffs, mald shitter.
PrTsty [#9]Asuna where?
Also marved is SO fucking underrated its insane, eh is easily better than yay imo, everytime Optic is about to lose he is the one stepping up and carrying them through
yay overrated imo
yeah marved should be way the fuck up higher. mimi putting him at 17th kinda messed up his real placement. yay is consistently top 3 and consistency earns him #1. asuna hasn't proven to be top 10 itw based on his international performances. (also i mean come on, do you see the other players on the list?)
ShyftNot1 [#7]#1 finger BASED. nvm, it's yay. 1 trick chamber Bedge. what a joke, FPX won copenhagen and doesn't have a single player in top 4.
I know flag/flair and all but FPX is probably the most well-rounded team to win an event, all of their players are so good so it makes sense that none of them are super high up. What other team would have 3/7 of their players in the top 7 worldwide?
number1_ScreaM_fan [#77]bro these guys have a hate boner againsy emea suygetsu should be no1. alfajer over derke imo.and shao over ardiss
shouldnt scream be number one? asking for a friend
RickyIndian [#81]yeah marved should be way the fuck up higher. mimi putting him at 17th kinda messed up his real placement. yay is consistently top 3 and consistency earns him #1. asuna hasn't proven to be top 10 itw based on his international performances. (also i mean come on, do you see the other players on the list?)
Yeah asuna aint top 10 but he was 19 in total, he was like 6 plaves below zekken, I believe asuna is better than zekken
m8te [#66]I don’t agree with your notion that yay is not number 1. He has been the most consistent player on top of already being top 5 mechanical players.
I would like to hear who you think would be number one.
I mean yeah all time he is probably number 1 but atm I just feel like crazy good support players are your game changers. Players like suygetsu, marved, shao just bring a different kind of value to the table while also having high fraggs
Daniveus [#39]why yay always 1st place, makes no sense.
How does it not make sense? The most consistent valorant player to ever play the game, you guys remember 1 bad game from groups in copenhagen but somehow forgot that he played absolutely insane in playoffs.
number1_ScreaM_fan [#77]bro these guys have a hate boner againsy emea suygetsu should be no1. alfajer over derke imo.and shao over ardiss
I'm counting 6 Emea players , 2na players and 2 apac players, idk where the bias is here , I will admit tho Brens lost was cap
Kk0bra [#92]I'm counting 6 Emea players , 2na players and 2 apac players, idk where the bias is here , I will admit tho Brens lost was cap
suygetsu mvp of last lan is not first, shao deserves higher, derke is far too far
HIGHASGFCCK [#55]aspas off top 5 ? wtf this guys doing
bro farming farmer league why is he that high LMAO
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