İt fucking makes no sense while m3c cant go to champions but furia can .....
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brah just stop, its just reality of competition. You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short. Really I can't excuse them anymore its a best of 5. On that note...
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Ullyr [#8]brah just stop, its just reality of competition. You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short. Really I can't excuse them anymore its a best of 5. On that note...
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hekzy [#6]well riot is dogshit so don't expect much from them.
btw to people interested, just to know how colossal of a failure riot is. They've managed to actually start the process of killing the game in EMEA. The viewership and playerbase is actually constantly decreasing over here in Europe and riot is doing everything in their hand to keep us disinterested by consistently undermining the fact that EMEA has the biggest playerbase (so it deserves more esports exposure) and the best teams (so it deserves to be compensated for that, not punished (last year 4 EMEA teams in champs)).
Ullyr [#8]brah just stop, its just reality of competition. You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short. Really I can't excuse them anymore its a best of 5. On that note...
I was American M3C fan, I loved deffo but he left M3C and I’m EDG Fan Now.
My New Name Is Ul·liu (乌利尔)
我来自China，我最喜欢的球队是 Edward Gaming
You Can Support EDG Like Me Come Join Us
Everyone knows M3C> FURİA
hekzy [#14]btw to people interested, just to know how colossal of a failure riot is. They've managed to actually start the process of killing the game in EMEA. The viewership and playerbase is actually constantly decreasing over here in Europe and riot is doing everything in their hand to keep us disinterested by consistently undermining the fact that EMEA has the biggest playerbase (so it deserves more esports exposure) and the best teams (so it deserves to be compensated for that, not punished (last year 4 EMEA teams in champs)).
not riot's fault if EMEA orgs doesn't know how to market their teams
AloisD [#12]2 slots because one is LCQ and the other is a shared slot Brazil and LATAM
Wtf is this logic.by this logic kr and japan or sea should also have a shared slot.anyways its a wasted slot easy pickings for their opponents
inlucid [#20]not riot's fault if EMEA orgs doesn't know how to market their teams
huh? they don't need to market their players like some sentinel clowns for clout. They dominate the scene, that's all that matters. Everything else is cringe redditor 13yo child semantics.
I feel like i explained 5 times already, but here we go again..
Latam is split in two latam north and latam south(where leviatan and kru are from), then they have to play for a slot to masters. Brazil is a region.
Brazil last year have 2 DIRECT SPOTS to champions and LATAM 1 and there was an LCQ with LATAM and BRAZIL that give 1 spot.
So basically SA have the same spots as last year, but the las 2 spots teams have to win them in a LAN between Brazil and LATAM wich makes it more competitive.
BoF7ooM [#10]EMEA won last years champions dominatingly and masters 3 only to get one of their slots removed KEKW
Wdym? they have 3 spots just like last year
Yicko [#4]i think their logic is they are combining 2 regions LATAM and BR, not saying it makes sense but that's just how it is
So by that logic EA LCQ should give 3 spots? Nah man, that’s not it
Ullyr [#8]brah just stop, its just reality of competition. You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short. Really I can't excuse them anymore its a best of 5. On that note...
I was American M3C fan, I loved deffo but he left M3C and I’m EDG Fan Now.
My New Name Is Ul·liu (乌利尔)
我来自China，我最喜欢的球队是 Edward Gaming
You Can Support EDG Like Me Come Join Us
“You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short.”
Do you even know what M3C stands for? So no, they don’t fall short
“You have 3 spots”
How is that supposed to help, be honest what place would M3C place if they traveled to Istanbul?
PunisherXPR [#28]Last year EMEA had 4 spots
Last year EMEA won Masters 3 which is why they had 4 spots. Riot didn’t know ven give us that opportunity this year and spot went straight to SA LCQ instead
If not, GUILD would have made it
Mortadelo [#30]Last year EMEA won Masters 3 which is why they had 4 spots. Riot didn’t know ven give us that opportunity this year and spot went straight to SA LCQ instead
If not, GUILD would have made it
It would've been G2, not Guild
PunisherXPR [#28]Last year EMEA had 4 spots
Last year EMEA had 3 slots, Gambit had a slot for winning Masters3, not for EMEA
Mortadelo [#29]“You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short.”
Do you even know what M3C stands for? So no, they don’t fall short
“You have 3 spots”
How is that supposed to help, be honest what place would M3C place if they traveled to Istanbul?
bro how are you suppose to know what place they place at masters or champs because they can't even qualify for that ... Look at the past EMEA qualifier event and recall how many fking times they made the quarters/semis and choke. Pls stop with your delusional copium and accept reality. If they can't qualify in a best of 5 series then they're not good enough.
You saying just cause they're Masters 3 winners last year they deserve to go lmao "so they don't fall short" by that logic we should let ACEND and SEN auto qualify too. STOP THE COPIUM.
just_rate [#25]I feel like i explained 5 times already, but here we go again..
Latam is split in two latam north and latam south(where leviatan and kru are from), then they have to play for a slot to masters. Brazil is a region.Brazil last year have 2 DIRECT SPOTS to champions and LATAM 1 and there was an LCQ with LATAM and BRAZIL that give 1 spot.
So basically SA have the same spots as last year, but the las 2 spots teams have to win them in a LAN between Brazil and LATAM wich makes it more competitive.
The question still remains why does SA has 4slots while others only have 3. NA-3 EMEA-3 EA-3 SEA-3
Bro EMEA has more teams going through than BR and LATAM
And its time for you to drop this "M3C cant go to champions" They literally failed to qualify for a single big event this year, just cuz they were crazy last year doesnt mean they deserve shit this year, they just had their chance and Scream smoked them, end of story go cry another place
jv566 [#34]The question still remains why does SA has 4slots while others only have 3. NA-3 EMEA-3 EA-3 SEA-3
What? SA does not exist bro, this is like saying why Asia is getting 6 slots while everyone else is not
jv566 [#34]The question still remains why does SA has 4slots while others only have 3. NA-3 EMEA-3 EA-3 SEA-3
Because NA is 1 region, EMEA is 1 region, APAC is just Paper Rex, and East Asia is just DRX and maybe ZETA. It's not that hard bro.
jv566 [#34]The question still remains why does SA has 4slots while others only have 3. NA-3 EMEA-3 EA-3 SEA-3
brazil + latam has 4 slots, not SA
jv566 [#34]The question still remains why does SA has 4slots while others only have 3. NA-3 EMEA-3 EA-3 SEA-3
Well, South america has 4 slots, Asia has 6, and?
jv566 [#38]By that logic america is getting 7 and the superior region only has 3 slots in that
Wdym lol, LATAM is getting 2 spots while APAC 3, is APAC the same as EMEA or NA now?
kowa [#24]every day dude, just move on
man i would've loved to see u guys in the same situation LMFAO
dudeeee [#39]Because the game need fans from all over the world
If we go by that logic, might as well just have EU and NA only attend champs because other region sucks
Well in that case EA LCQ should provide more spots cause it's like 3 or 4 regions combined? and them getting only 1 spot isn't fair. Imo there should've been more spots for champs.
Rabbiit [#41]Well, South america has 4 slots, Asia has 6, and?
By that logic america is getting 7 and the superior region only has 3 slots in that.
While on the other hand europe russia africa only has 3
s1nek [#32]Last year EMEA had 3 slots, Gambit had a slot for winning Masters3, not for EMEA
True, my bad
jv566 [#46]By that logic america is getting 7 and the superior region only has 3 slots in that.
While on the other hand europe russia africa only has 3
Exactly, so your comparison was wrong, Latam has 2 slots and Br 2 slots, Emea 3, NA 3, etc.
Ernno [#48]You guys talk about this every single day since M2 ended, move on.
true, we don't know how to claim our rights, maybe we should get a crash course from u guys ?
JuanEmeve [#49]instead of saying that sa have 4 slots, you might be saying that europe has 3, na has 3, brasil and the rest of latam have one each, and they have to compete for other 2 slots, basicly, we still being the regions with less teams.
These morons think they are the center of the world.
Ullyr [#33]bro how are you suppose to know what place they place at masters or champs because they can't even qualify for that ... Look at the past EMEA qualifier event and recall how many fking times they made the quarters/semis and choke. Pls stop with your delusional copium and accept reality. If they can't qualify in a best of 5 series then they're not good enough.
You saying just cause they're Masters 3 winners last year they deserve to go lmao "so they don't fall short" by that logic we should let ACEND and SEN auto qualify too. STOP THE COPIUM.
Dude you didn’t get a single one of my points and all your statements there are fallacies and avoiding the matter. Look I’m gonna try to make it as clear as possible
- “If they can’t win a bo5 they are just not good enough”
So, how does the fact that they have lost affect to the number of spots EMEA should get again? So, if EMEA had one spot, the second team can’t win a bo5 against the champions so they are not good enough for the tournament?
- “We can’t know how they would place”
There is no actual way you think M3C wouldn’t at least make playoffs
JuanEmeve [#49]instead of saying that sa have 4 slots, you might be saying that europe has 3, na has 3, brasil and the rest of latam have one each, and they have to compete for other 2 slots, basicly, we still being the regions with less teams.
huh ? u realise there's basis for the distribution ? and it's not just giving them away
just_rate [#37]Because NA is 1 region, EMEA is 1 region, APAC is just Paper Rex, and East Asia is just DRX and maybe ZETA. It's not that hard bro.
EMEA IS 1 REGION ??? TF ARE U ON DOG ? WHT ABOUT TURKEY, CIS AND MENA ??????????????
Rabbiit [#50]Exactly, so your comparison was wrong, Latam has 2 slots and Br 2 slots, Emea 3, NA 3, etc.
EMEA HAS TURKEY CIS AND MENA IN IT DUMB FUCK
in ur logic eu should get 2 turkey 1 cis 1 mena 1
Rabbiit [#50]Exactly, so your comparison was wrong, Latam has 2 slots and Br 2 slots, Emea 3, NA 3, etc.
kkkkkkk o cara se perdeu total no argumento
hekzy [#23]huh? they don't need to market their players like some sentinel clowns for clout. They dominate the scene, that's all that matters. Everything else is cringe redditor 13yo child semantics.
wtf if EMEA orgs doesn't market their players they won't survive because tournament earnings aren't the main source of money.
wohe [#56]EMEA HAS TURKEY CIS AND MENA IN IT DUMB FUCK
in ur logic eu should get 2 turkey 1 cis 1 mena 1
no, emea is a region, just like brazil, latam and na. you can see that on riot's video explaining masters format
just_rate [#37]Because NA is 1 region, EMEA is 1 region, APAC is just Paper Rex, and East Asia is just DRX and maybe ZETA. It's not that hard bro.
What do we have in SA kru(consistent in appearance and disappointment) & LOUD
Mortadelo [#53]Dude you didn’t get a single one of my points and all your statements there are fallacies and avoiding the matter. Look I’m gonna try to make it as clear as possible
- “If they can’t win a bo5 they are just not good enough”
So, how does the fact that they have lost affect to the number of spots EMEA should get again? So, if EMEA had one spot, the second team can’t win a bo5 against the champions so they are not good enough for the tournament?
- “We can’t know how they would place”
There is no actual way you think M3C wouldn’t at least make playoffs
can’t win a bo5 against the champions so they are not good enough for the tournament?
yes
Enzolp [#42]Wdym lol, LATAM is getting 2 spots while APAC 3, is APAC the same as EMEA or NA now?
these guys don't get that SA is not a region, SA nomenclature was just used for champs lcq
Mortadelo [#29]“You got 3 slots and M3C have been here multiple times but always fall short.”
Do you even know what M3C stands for? So no, they don’t fall short
“You have 3 spots”
How is that supposed to help, be honest what place would M3C place if they traveled to Istanbul?
He's a plastic fan, he stanned Gambit for the last 1 year and now he's gone lol
Rabbiit [#50]Exactly, so your comparison was wrong, Latam has 2 slots and Br 2 slots, Emea 3, NA 3, etc.
Forgot it you will never understand
kowa [#62]can’t win a bo5 against the champions so they are not good enough for the tournament?
yes
No? So according to you if we get 1 spot FNC is not good enough, if we get 2 TL is not good enough and if we get 1000 me and my friends are good enough? Don’t you realize that’s like saying giving an spot to a region automatically makes their teams better or something
wohe [#56]EMEA HAS TURKEY CIS AND MENA IN IT DUMB FUCK
in ur logic eu should get 2 turkey 1 cis 1 mena 1
LATAM is LATAM North and LATAM south, two different leagues. And there is BRAZIL, they are they own region.
wohe [#55]EMEA IS 1 REGION ??? TF ARE U ON DOG ? WHT ABOUT TURKEY, CIS AND MENA ??????????????
EMEA has one VCT, whereas LATAM and Asia have 2 and 3, respectively!
Piter [#69]EMEA has one VCT, whereas LATAM and Asia have 2 and 3, respectively!
no they don't EU plays alone, CIS plays alone, TR plays alone and then who qualifies play in the EMEA CLOSED QUALIFIERS
they are not together they have their own leagues
Ullyr [#33]bro how are you suppose to know what place they place at masters or champs because they can't even qualify for that ... Look at the past EMEA qualifier event and recall how many fking times they made the quarters/semis and choke. Pls stop with your delusional copium and accept reality. If they can't qualify in a best of 5 series then they're not good enough.
You saying just cause they're Masters 3 winners last year they deserve to go lmao "so they don't fall short" by that logic we should let ACEND and SEN auto qualify too. STOP THE COPIUM.
Mf supported M3C/Gambit for the entirety of 2021 and first half of 2022, several bitter losses and this guy hops onto another teams and acts like he never ever liked Gambit
Goodbye, no one needs fans like you
Olofboost [#64]He's a plastic fan, he stanned Gambit for the last 1 year and now he's gone lol
The arguments are literally horrible lol
dejikke [#59]no, emea is a region, just like brazil, latam and na. you can see that on riot's video explaining masters format
holy fuck the brain damage is impeccable
wohe [#55]EMEA IS 1 REGION ??? TF ARE U ON DOG ? WHT ABOUT TURKEY, CIS AND MENA ??????????????
LATAM is LATAM north and LATAM south two different leagues, the two best teams from each league have to play for 1 master spot and 1 lcq spot.
And if you count us as "SA" SOUTH AMERICA we have to add BRAZIL, so we have 3 different leagues in SA :)
Without any trolling (please vlr just looking for a legit conversation here)
Can someone explain why EMEA & NA have 3 representatives going to Champions, while APAC (I’m including Korea and Japan in that) have 6 slots, & SA (combining LATAM & Brazil) has 4 slots?
Is the viewership & support in these regions that much higher than EMEA & NA? Or am I missing something else? :) thanks!
wohe [#51]true, we don't know how to claim our rights, maybe we should get a crash course from u guys ?
20$ per hour
Mjtchell [#79]Latam and BR are two separate regions with a singular slot, and they have to share competition for the other 2 slots
Latam 2 slots and BR 2 slots.
EMEA does not need 4 if these regions barely get 2
EMEA is bigger region than Latam and BR combined
SnyderFan [#52]These morons think they are the center of the world.
We are the center of the world? We have bigger server population and more achievements in fps than everyone else
Olofboost [#75]Furia wouldn't win jackshit in EMEA, that's the difference
Furia win today, M3C not, that's the difference
s1nek [#83]Furia win today, M3C not, that's the difference
You win bronze ranked game today, M3C don't win today, means you're better than M3C?
inlucid [#20]not riot's fault if EMEA orgs doesn't know how to market their teams
Somehow that's not the problem for CSGO
Only Riot cares about market shit, that's why Valve / CS TOs will always be better and straight on point
Olofboost [#85]You win bronze ranked game today, M3C don't win today, means you're better than M3C?
no, it means that I got my goal and M3C did not
dejikke [#63]these guys don't get that SA is not a region, SA nomenclature was just used for champs lcq
You guys don't understand that nobody execept u guys consider brazil and latam as a region
IceFoxx00 [#87]Wait India gets 2 slots for Champs?!?!?!?
LOUD out in only 2 games at masters 3 so sad
s1nek [#88]no, it means that I got my goal and M3C did not
Yes? Goals vary from the easiest to the hardest
In order to qualify to LAN from EMEA, you must work 60 hours per week non stop
In order to qualify to LAN from South America, all you need to do is just not drink and not party before games
Mjtchell [#79]Latam and BR are two separate regions with a singular slot, and they have to share competition for the other 2 slots
Latam 2 slots and BR 2 slots.
EMEA does not need 4 if these regions barely get 2
Emea is an massive region that covers the entirety of 2 continents and 1 sub continent. The area is larger, playerbase is larger, the viewership is larger. Emea has staunchly outperformed sa in every event bar m1 where the best emea team (that won the next event when they could attend) was unable to go due to a war. The only justification is the meaningless boundaries that riot drew. They could've easily split eu and cis and then I guess they now deserve more slots because they are 'two separate regions'. By your logic you could group everywhere outside of sa as the rest of the world region and I guess sa deserves more slots despite level of play because they encompass two regions
hekzy [#23]huh? they don't need to market their players like some sentinel clowns for clout. They dominate the scene, that's all that matters. Everything else is cringe redditor 13yo child semantics.
Riot does similar promotion for both regions, albeit a little more for na.
But if emea’s best team can’t match the viewership of a mid tier na team, the fault is on the org. You can laugh at viewership for trash na teams all you want but don’t cry about how the na stream will take priority and emea will fall out. Believe it or not the viewers keep the scene alive, not the teams.
s1nek [#83]Furia win today, M3C not, that's the difference
Furia didn't come first, yet they will still get spots.
Makes no sense when EMEA has the biggest region and only get 3 spots in champs while SA gets 4
jv566 [#89]You guys don't understand that nobody execept u guys consider brazil and latam as a region
they literally are? thats why they get a respective slot for themselves and are not combined, then play each other to gain more slots for their region, APAC have 2 slots plus APAC LCQ, just because riot does not want to do a region vs region for you guys does not mean we are only 1 region.
joelmoreirah [#91]? Br have 2 slots, Latam have 2 slots and Na and EMEA have 3 eachone. Why are u crying?
Emea is an massive region that covers the entirety of 2 continents and 1 sub continent. The area is larger, playerbase is larger, the viewership is larger. Emea has staunchly outperformed sa in every event bar m1 where the best emea team (that won the next event when they could attend) was unable to go due to a war. The only justification is the meaningless boundaries that riot drew. They could've easily split eu and cis and then I guess they now deserve more slots because they are 'two separate regions'. By your logic you could group everywhere outside of sa as the rest of the world region and I guess sa deserves more slots despite level of play because they encompass two regions
Olofboost [#81]EMEA is bigger region than Latam and BR combined
and they are bigger than APAC and KR/JP combined too right?, then they deserve 3 slots too?
redding [#77]Without any trolling (please vlr just looking for a legit conversation here)
Can someone explain why EMEA & NA have 3 representatives going to Champions, while APAC (I’m including Korea and Japan in that) have 6 slots, & SA (combining LATAM & Brazil) has 4 slots?
Is the viewership & support in these regions that much higher than EMEA & NA? Or am I missing something else? :) thanks!
riot was probably afraid by how dominant emea was at champions
jv566 [#93]What are the 14 countries in Latin America?
The continent generally includes twelve sovereign states: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, and Venezuela
How is Brazil a region if it is included in LATAM
These countries belong to SOUTH AMERICA. Suriname and Guyana doesn't belong to LATIN AMERICA because english and dutch are germanic languages.
JuanEmeve [#49]instead of saying that sa have 4 slots, you might be saying that europe has 3, na has 3, brasil and the rest of latam have one each, and they have to compete for other 2 slots, basicly, we still being the regions with less teams.
Emea is an massive region that covers the entirety of 2 continents and 1 sub continent. The area is larger, playerbase is larger, the viewership is larger. Emea has staunchly outperformed sa in every event bar m1 where the best emea team (that won the next event when they could attend) was unable to go due to a war. The only justification is the meaningless boundaries that riot drew. They could've easily split eu and cis and then I guess they now deserve more slots because they are 'two separate regions'. By your logic you could group everywhere outside of sa as the rest of the world region and I guess sa deserves more slots despite level of play because they encompass two regions
wohe [#74]holy fuck the brain damage is impeccable
In case you haven’t noticed, riot isn’t using the defined borders of regions to decide slots. Emea is a region, Brazil is a region, Latam is a region, apac is a region.
joelmoreirah [#91]? Br have 2 slots, Latam have 2 slots and Na and EMEA have 3 eachone. Why are u crying?
Why would Portuguese, a European, prioritize SA over EMEA
So weird
clutchzero [#58]wtf if EMEA orgs doesn't market their players they won't survive because tournament earnings aren't the main source of money.
How does that have anything to do with EMEA getting less spots? What in the fucking fuck are you talking about? It's simple, EMEA is the best region, should get the most spots.
blueberry [#95]Riot does similar promotion for both regions, albeit a little more for na.
But if emea’s best team can’t match the viewership of a mid tier na team, the fault is on the org. You can laugh at viewership for trash na teams all you want but don’t cry about how the na stream will take priority and emea will fall out. Believe it or not the viewers keep the scene alive, not the teams.
Yes the best NA teams can't match mid-tier EMEA teams on the server. If Riot wants viewership so much they might as well make this garbage esport into Twitch Rivals. If they gave a single fuck about integrity, quality and level of competition this fucking circus wouldn't be going on. That's why ESL/blast/whoever >>>>>>>>>>>>> riot
Emea is an massive region that covers the entirety of 2 continents and 1 sub continent. The area is larger, playerbase is larger, the viewership is larger. Emea has staunchly outperformed sa in every event bar m1 where the best emea team (that won the next event when they could attend) was unable to go due to a war. The only justification is the meaningless boundaries that riot drew. They could've easily split eu and cis and then I guess they now deserve more slots because they are 'two separate regions'. By your logic you could group everywhere outside of sa as the rest of the world region and I guess sa deserves more slots despite level of play because they encompass two regions
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