onur about VAL replay system

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trembolonaRage

https://twitter.com/onurthegreat/status/1553414882569101314
"I dont want it to be implemented. its bad because frustated/lazy coaches and analysts wants to copy other teams setups with the smallest possible effort"

Thoughts?

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ChickenJoe

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What are YOUR thoughts about it, trembolonaRage?

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WinterZ

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Rare Onur L

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lol such a L

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mf wasnt even at copenhagen talking about lazy coaches 💀

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meyournightmare

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but his team was

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Mortadelo

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Wtf is that supposed to mean

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arecyc

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it means he wasnt at copenhagen?

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ColdWKey

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Didn’t he have Covid or something and couldn’t travel?

Edit: yeah he couldn’t make it to Copenhagen due to Covid https://www.dexerto.com/valorant/leviatan-head-coach-onur-unable-to-attend-valorant-masters-after-testing-positive-repeatedly-1866715/

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bonkashi

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pretty sure he wouldn't have been able to go anyway seeing as he is unvaccinated

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Mortadelo

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Cause he had Covid and couldn't travel? How is that being lazy?

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It's not being lazy but maybe he got covid because he was unvaccinated 🤔🤔

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Mortadelo

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My friend I have my 3 shots and I've had covid 3 times, vaccine he's with symptoms not to not get it

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6vine

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It shouldn’t even matter lol, this thread has literally 0 relevance to him being antivaxx

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Mortadelo

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It's whatever bro

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hahahah

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elayaCL

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Riot didn't let him go, are you on crack or something?

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NG1nS

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why didn't they let him?

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Mortadelo

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He had covid, he got over it but he kept testing positive after 2 weeks which can happen apparently. Both Chile and Denmark's traveling restriction allowed him to attend but Riot didn't

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arecyc

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i wonder why hmmmm....

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Mortadelo

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Cause he had Covid?

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arecyc

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if only there was something that everyone is getting that reduces the chance of getting covid

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Mortadelo

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How sad it only lowers your symptoms and not your chances of getting it

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arecyc

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literally false

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Mortadelo

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Okay bro, if you wanna blame a guy for getting Covid go ahead man

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arecyc

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yeah hes lazy for not wanting to get a vaccine

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Mortadelo

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No, he is not, getting the vaccine is not his problem he is not an antivax he is a liberalist. I don't share his reasons but at least i respect his conviction for his morals. If you don't wanna understand it it's your problem

continue thread →

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6vine

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Not sure if you’re trolling or you’re genuinely braindead

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JiangLi

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Hes not wrong . Boaster and Vanity said the same thing. Teams will be making less effort to study their opponents. Less Than 20% CS players use replay system in csgo. 99% of them are pros. Its not of much use for casual audience.

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But it would let people make even sicker highlight videos. Look at the Virre stuff from CSGO; I want that in valorant. Also would let all you see the util combos from such a cool view.

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JiangLi

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Yeah i also want to see clockwork type of things in val but theres no guarantee they add free moving cam with the replay system. It could be just plain simple like that . If its like that it will really not serve more purpose .

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zardinez

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If they’re adding a replay system, they’re definitely adding a freeview camera

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Don't make it easier for Valorant to progress because it will be "easier" for teams to anti strat?

Do you guys just try to make contrary takes to popular ones?

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Daniveus

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what he said is true but I feel like that's just one small nuisance among many benefits.

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NG1nS

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idk about this one, i understand it but i think it's still really helpful

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6vine

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Agreed. Replays will ruin the competitive scene. Should only be added for Normal game modes

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Joakin

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"I dont want it to be implemented" ???? where he says that?

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tyforfreesiteENZO

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lol, thats the part of competitive game. of any competitive scene.

replays should be ingame since 2020, its a joke we still dont have it

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monitar

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cs has it decades ago, i dont see any problem with it.

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onurtgreat

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I'm just making some content for you guys. I really can't care less.

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Onur help brazil plx

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W coach

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Noyn

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Will you be able to participate in the franchise system in 2023? Has there ever been this conversation with Riot? We need you to coach a second brazilian superteam

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onurtgreat

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I hope so! Yes, Leviatan is doing the interview process as many other teams.

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Noyn

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Yes, but I would like to know if there is a possibility that Riot and the partners will bar you from participating in the franchise due to vaccine issues

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onurtgreat

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As far as I know the only official tournament worldwide where Riot asked for the vaccination status was in Brazil at the beginning of this year. Having said that I believe it's not a requisite for the LCQ anymore. About being able to compete in the franchise system I think the requirements would be up to each country not to Riot. I know that EUA has more restricted travel policies than Europe nowdays. That could be a problem. I hope it changes in a near future.

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Noyn

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Thanks for the reply, good luck in Champions!!

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-Artorias

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cant wait to take a photo with you in istanbul <3 W coach

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Sure!

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WinterZ

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Onur, what do you think of Leviatan’s Masters II performance this year? Is this only the beginning of Leviatan’s LATAM dominance?

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onurtgreat

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I think we could play way better! The pressure to qualify to Champions made us to play worse. We're going to do a 3-weeks bootcamp in Europe and should be ready to make a better run.

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WinterZ

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Alright good to know! I’ve got full faith in you and your squad to make a deep run in Champs. Good luck with bootcamp and practice.

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Phamous

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Need a replay system… Every modern day sport has some sort of replay/film system. Esports should be no different just based on competition.

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tyforfreesiteENZO

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even every competitive esport game have some replay/demo system. most of them i think.

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He is right, best coach itw not even close !!!

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matches shouldnt be streamed either, that makes analyzing strats way too easy. the only way u could look at other teams strats should be only by directly playing these teams and have the coach breaking down the plays in real time.
these mfs want anything for free today smh

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Glycoroldas

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Lazy coaches potentially copying tactics is a small price to pay for better fragmovies, highlights, content and higher level of competitive play as well.

It's one thing to copy a tactic, another thing is to execute it well. Moreover, replay system would weed out weak leaders(both coaches/IGL), as under replay system, they would have to come up with more unique tactical decision on the fly, which promotes robustness and higher levels of creative tactical decision making.

For this reason Boaster doesn't want a replay system, he does his homework and most of the time succeeds when it matters less. But after showing his repertoire, him and fnatic eventually get figured out in latter stages of tournaments, to the extent where he is unable to make significant adjustments to avoid doing the obvious at that point. With a replay system, this would be happening much sooner and fnatic wouldn't be going to playoffs.

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lol no, fnc didnt lose this time coz of lack of strategic depth or being figured out. if a team like fpx cant beat them after fighting 4 times you know its not the anti strating thats lacking. and your entire opinion on fnatic is just bad. fnc lost coz they just leveled down as a team, there coordination was lacking and stuff.

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Glycoroldas

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You missed my point where fnatic always gets beaten in finals and semifinals.

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symbols07

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true, i dont know why its even required. like sure i would like to see it may be implemented for pro games but i cant imagine my gold teammates who dont know that they cant dry peak a one way smoke learning anything from a replay mode

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such an L LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dude dont want people to see how his team plays because he's afraid, csgo povs are all over and team still had an era