FNC gonna drop their last piece of dead weight and have an absolute god squad for champs, might try to grab a guy like Zeek or if they want someone more flexible then try to poach Hoody, Cloud or Molsi
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Hewcho [#4]imagine they pick again turkish player maybe lauress?
Idk if another turkish player will be beneficial unless their English is good
0d1nxD [#8]brave would be perfect for that spot but they kicked him for literally no reason
They didn’t kick him for no reason + Enzo better player than him
tyforfreesiteENZO [#7]when u have enzo in team u cant have a god squad im sorry.
same with alfa on lan
this is an obvious bait i hope no one responds after me
0d1nxD [#8]brave would be perfect for that spot but they kicked him for literally no reason
Brave has way too much overlap with enzo and also struggled in big games to frag(150 acs in S1 playoffs with a .72 KD while playing similar agents to enzo) They need a player on skye/kayo/breach which idk if he can fill
tyforfreesiteENZO [#7]when u have enzo in team u cant have a god squad im sorry.
same with alfa on lan
i agree about the enzo part but it only goes up for alfa on lan from here
NG1nS [#11]mistic plays a lot of agents tbf they need a really flexible guy
Ya but some of his agents aren't necessary. The average flex player plays 4 agents (usually 3 initiators and 1 in another role) he plays 5 but they don't need a viper player at all with alfa boaster and enzo. If they get someone to play kayo on 3-4 maps, breach on 2-3 and skye on bind(who is better than fade IMO) then the team will be in a great spot. Mistic is a liability on most of those agents anyway so a replacement is necessary
zakrin72 [#15]i agree about the enzo part but it only goes up for alfa on lan from here
dont get me wrong, i like alfajer, he is a monster online. but idk bout him on lan, u saw it bro. he made too many mistakes
ShyftNot1 [#5]no, they will just go on another honeymoon period, until they hit a team in champions that has stuck together for months if not years and then be giga-boomed by their chemistry.
Agreed, this seems to be the trend at this point. Imo they need a coachand staff change, it’s a hot take but they run out of stuff later in the tournament. Just look how well fpx improved this time, this needs to be the case for us too. And look how optic improve so fast after a loss. This is never th case for us.
GooberBoy [#20]Ya but some of his agents aren't necessary. The average flex player plays 4 agents (usually 3 initiators and 1 in another role) he plays 5 but they don't need a viper player at all with alfa boaster and enzo. If they get someone to play kayo on 3-4 maps, breach on 2-3 and skye on bind(who is better than fade IMO) then the team will be in a great spot. Mistic is a liability on most of those agents anyway so a replacement is necessary
yeah i agree they could replace him but fnatic isn't like that normally, I don't think they would drop him bcz they qualified with him so maybe after champs
but if it did happen everyone of the mentioned above are great tbh especially molsi i think he's the only one easy to get rn or zeek of course
I also wanna add in here for everyone saying Mistic is an overall awful player, I think he's genuinely a top 6 controller player (boaster, nats, redgar, soulcas, ange1 prob ahead but then after its an odd jumble with guys like zeddy and baddyg all playing well in their limited opportunities) but flex is not his role. Put him on a team like ACE or G2 and I think he could be a very good supportive 4th fragger for the team, or even a team like Fokus , MAD or BIG where he could be a star or even try IGLing
idkbro [#6]bye, wont be missed, boaster next if he cant fix this team mentality, get ex6tenz back to playing and they smurf valorant
At the very least Boaster has been a top 3 fragging IGL for his team, even if u don't like his comms he's a genuinely good smokes player
tonyhart7 [#27]Lmao when lose once you get replaced see Optic and Prx didnt change roster since 2021
Well Optic and PRX never had any players that were actual liabilities to their roster and never had fragging or role problems. The only time I can think of for either was when F0rsaken was on Sova which they quickly changed or when Victor was struggling but they were never gonna drop him after one meh tourney when he had covid. FNC has been a player away at pretty much every tourney they competed in, and mistic is the one guy who has struggled over multiple international tournies(was an atrocious fragger in both Copenhagen and in Champs last year) that has remained on the team. Derke and Boaster continue to perform, Enzo has been good since joining and Alfa is just getting started, whereas mistic is clearly behind on his role to every single player in this tourney apart from maybe Russ.
GooberBoy [#29]At the very least Boaster has been a top 3 fragging IGL for his team, even if u don't like his comms he's a genuinely good smokes player
meh, he has overperformed imo, next event he will go back to the mean
Tomatongfuel [#30]My guy is doing fine on assists per round, esp on breach and Skye leave him alone he’s doing his job as a support player
11 initiator players this tournament avg a higher APR than Mistic, there are 12 teams... The only main initiator players who have less are either of the XSET guys but they also interchanged with smokes a lot and FPX who has 4 different players playing that role
GooberBoy [#33]11 initiator players this tournament avg a higher APR than Mistic, there are 12 teams... The only main initiator players who have less are either of the XSET guys but they also interchanged with smokes a lot and FPX who has 4 different players playing that role
Of teams that made it into playoffs, looking at non-IGLing dedicated initiator/support players, only shyyy and Leo have higher apr. Am excluding IGLs because im comparing him to anyone who would have “done better”
Tomatongfuel [#34]Of teams that made it into playoffs, looking at non-IGLing dedicated initiator/support players, only shyyy and Leo have higher apr. Am excluding IGLs because im comparing him to anyone who would have “done better”
IGL's are the main players in his role lol, the flex initiator role is the most popular IGL role because it puts them on agents like Breach and Kay/o that can be played hella supportive. Of initiators in playoffs he's still behind d4v41, benkai, stax, shyy, fns, leo and was around the same as enzo ardiis(when on initiators) and crashies who are all marginally better fraggers. Thats anywhere from 7-10 dudes who he's not support as well as.
GooberBoy [#35]IGL's are the main players in his role lol, the flex initiator role is the most popular IGL role because it puts them on agents like Breach and Kay/o that can be played hella supportive. Of initiators in playoffs he's still behind d4v41, benkai, stax, shyy, fns, leo and was around the same as enzo ardiis(when on initiators) and crashies who are all marginally better fraggers. Thats anywhere from 7-10 dudes who he's not support as well as.
Even assuming comparing IGLs and non-IGLs in a discussion about dropping a player is valid, including FNS is unfair as he has only played breach on initiator as his APR on breach is well below mistic. Most of his APR seems to come from viper and that’s just not a valid comparison. That leaves benkai, d4v41 (who to be fair actually has better apr on initiator than his overall stats due to him also playing chamber and who I probably should’ve included first time mb) stax, shy and Leo with higher APR (though the difference w shy and esp Leo is statistically insignificant). I will also admit that while looking at this, i noticed that though his breach is very solid and his Skye isn’t bad either for support, his kayo isn’t the best when compared to others in a similar role, and that is probably his biggest weakness in role. The acs point is eh as his role is basically not to frag ever
GooberBoy [#28]I also wanna add in here for everyone saying Mistic is an overall awful player, I think he's genuinely a top 6 controller player (boaster, nats, redgar, soulcas, ange1 prob ahead but then after its an odd jumble with guys like zeddy and baddyg all playing well in their limited opportunities) but flex is not his role. Put him on a team like ACE or G2 and I think he could be a very good supportive 4th fragger for the team, or even a team like Fokus , MAD or BIG where he could be a star or even try IGLing
Having him on BIG instead of obnoks would be a w upgrade
GooberBoy [#31]Well Optic and PRX never had any players that were actual liabilities to their roster and never had fragging or role problems. The only time I can think of for either was when F0rsaken was on Sova which they quickly changed or when Victor was struggling but they were never gonna drop him after one meh tourney when he had covid. FNC has been a player away at pretty much every tourney they competed in, and mistic is the one guy who has struggled over multiple international tournies(was an atrocious fragger in both Copenhagen and in Champs last year) that has remained on the team. Derke and Boaster continue to perform, Enzo has been good since joining and Alfa is just getting started, whereas mistic is clearly behind on his role to every single player in this tourney apart from maybe Russ.
oh Yeah lets kick player who got to blamed and change roster again because why not
instead fix whats the problem, its more easier to change player and got ass kicked by Team that has been together for so long
RadiantGamer [#23]honestly fnatic have to just do roster changes closer to international events so the honeymoon period lasts for the entire event
Still think "honeymoon period" is a myth
GooberBoy [#31]Well Optic and PRX never had any players that were actual liabilities to their roster and never had fragging or role problems. The only time I can think of for either was when F0rsaken was on Sova which they quickly changed or when Victor was struggling but they were never gonna drop him after one meh tourney when he had covid. FNC has been a player away at pretty much every tourney they competed in, and mistic is the one guy who has struggled over multiple international tournies(was an atrocious fragger in both Copenhagen and in Champs last year) that has remained on the team. Derke and Boaster continue to perform, Enzo has been good since joining and Alfa is just getting started, whereas mistic is clearly behind on his role to every single player in this tourney apart from maybe Russ.
f0rsaken wasn't the problem when he was on sova, he played well actually. Jinggg just couldn't fill in the jett role well and mindfreak was on cypher which was also a big issue. give mistic a chance in champs, he is a very capable player when he played smokes back then.
sashi [#44]today the last emea team will be eliminated from masters and another thread will pop out from fpx fankids saying who to remove/add, these loser region basement dwellers can keep creating these threads but the fact remains, every player did have some great games and some off games
You're right, people keep overreacting.
In the end this was just a bo3 and FNC didn't lose just cause mistic was bottomfragging...
tonyhart7 [#27]Lmao when lose once you get replaced see Optic and Prx didnt change roster since 2021
yeah, fnatic strat is drop one pick one
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