Loud veto

why did they let through their worst map (split) and optics best map. actually trolling. its not even like loud are good at fracture, last time it was 13-2 and its not close this time either

their coach is a double agent for optic

bad map pool , what do u want them to pick other than ascent?

Loud veto/picks have been really weird this tournament

sad_gambit_fan [#3]

bad map pool , what do u want them to pick other than ascent?

Bind?

sad_gambit_fan [#3]

bad map pool , what do u want them to pick other than ascent?

bind icebox breeze?

Im sure you know more about which maps they are practicing and have worked on in the months it has been from the games you are referencing ;)

PicKaRuu [#5]

Bind?

optic is known for being good on bind?

did they even change comp from last time

sad_gambit_fan [#3]

bad map pool , what do u want them to pick other than ascent?

ban split and play breeze 3rd instead

mave [#6]

bind icebox breeze?

their icebox isnt that good , optic's breeze is good
and bind is also a good for optic , thought idk why they let fracture and split through instead of bind / icebox

sad_gambit_fan [#11]

their icebox isnt that good , optic's breeze is good
and bind is also a good for optic , thought idk why they let fracture and split through instead of bind / icebox

have you watched optic play bind last month? they were horrible and breeze is one of optic worst maps

sad_gambit_fan [#8]

optic is known for being good on bind?

well, their split is bad are they going to play split because OPTIC's bind is good? Their bind is not bad

mave [#12]

have you watched optic play bind last month? they were horrible and breeze is one of optic worst maps

the only bad bind map they had was the one with the neon comp
there is no way they play that again , with the raze comp they were a really good bind team

mave [#9]

did they even change comp from last time

Loud did, optic didn't

mave [#12]

have you watched optic play bind last month? they were horrible and breeze is one of optic worst maps

that was a month ago

sad_gambit_fan [#14]

the only bad bind map they had was the one with the neon comp
there is no way they play that again , with the raze comp they were a really good bind team

nah they got completely shit on by eg with their old comp

They actually not having a big map pool. Because all of those great winrate they got from bashing their own region. Loud is great on ascent, breeze, bind. Kinda average on icebox, trash on fracture and split.

And optic is great on bind too. So their map pool fucked when facing an actual good team

mave [#12]

have you watched optic play bind last month? they were horrible and breeze is one of optic worst maps

optic breeze looked good wdym? they beat xset and eg very easily (they both r good breeze teams on na)
marved kayo and victor jett was really good

sad_gambit_fan [#19]

optic breeze looked good wdym? they beat xset and eg very easily (they both r good breeze teams on na)
marved kayo and victor jett was really good

it's still historically one of their worst maps there's a reason they ban it this masters

mave [#17]

nah they got completely shit on by eg with their old comp

"completely shit on"
eg is a good bind team lmao
boostio and jawgemo popped off and they won both pistol and a bonus
it was a bad match for them , they shit on eg after that in playoffs

mave [#20]

it's still historically one of their worst maps there's a reason they ban it this masters

they didn't insta ban it though?

Yeah... no ideia... hope they have something cooked

mave [#20]

it's still historically one of their worst maps there's a reason they ban it this masters

it was their perma ban for a long time till recently where they found success with marved kayo and victor jett
and they try to ban icebox or whatever the other team is really good on

sad_gambit_fan [#21]

"completely shit on"
eg is a good bind team lmao
boostio and jawgemo popped off and they won both pistol and a bonus
it was a bad match for them , they shit on eg after that in playoffs

that they beat eg in their rematch(without playing bind) has nothing to do with my point that they should rather play bind against them than fracture and split

since they banned haven, they were prob expecting OPTC to pick split, maybe theyve done some studying on OPTC's split and not their bind

maybe they've cooked some insane comp and have been labbing out some crazy strats, that's the only reason why they would pick the map they went into OT with Gamelanders Blue

mave [#25]

that they beat eg in their rematch(without playing bind) has nothing to do with my point that they should rather play bind against them than fracture and split

maybe loud dont want to play optic on bind???
and they prob have prepped something for split

Idk why would they let split through and didnt ban optics best map fracture

sad_gambit_fan [#28]

maybe loud dont want to play optic on bind???
and they prob have prepped something for split

ok you obviously don't agree with me, but from my point of view i would prefer playing a map where im good on and my opponent is really good on over playing a map where im dogshit on and my opponent is really good on

they've been training on Split and they made that call even before Masters. and they improved a lot on Fracture. i mean, if it wasn't for both Sacy and Less bottomfragging, this would've been different

mave [#20]

it's still historically one of their worst maps there's a reason they ban it this masters

Optic beat loud 15-13 last masters on breeze
with marved on chamber
they would absolutely stomp loud with vic on jett

Saadhaak said that they discovered that Split are one of their best maps while training in BR/EMEA.