fnatic gonna eat optic with this lineup
boaster>fns
alfa>>>victor
mistic<<marved
derke~yay
fearoth>>>crashies
Although chet is an amazing coach, he gonna anti strat the fuck outta fnc and play some cringe comp real nice
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Sprouts [#7]Enzo is not better than Crashies and FNS may be a worse player than Boaster, but is clearly a better, more experienced IGL
boaster has been around since m2 2021, just talking about experience valo, don't pull csgo on me
Sprouts [#7]Enzo is not better than Crashies and FNS may be a worse player than Boaster, but is clearly a better, more experienced IGL
How is he clearly better
Crashies is better than Enzo, I feel like. And so is FNS is better than boaster in IGLing. Also viktor maybe inconsistent sometimes but that doesn't mean, he is less better than alfa.
Tbh these types of comparisons are useless. You can't know how top teams for diff regions look like against each other without actually seeing them play.
Fnatic do be lookin nice tho
boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashies
mini > chet
since_beta [#11]boaster has been around since m2 2021, just talking about experience valo, don't pull csgo on me
Why wouldn’t LANs in a different game transfer over? A LAN is a LAN, it’s the experience of being in person that matters
idkbro [#15]boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashiesmini > chet
PERFORMING WELL AGAINST WORSE TEAMS??? YOU MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BEST TEAMS ITW???
Yeah Marved fucking owned against DRX PRX and Loud, but look at mistic go against FUCKING FOKUS
Sprouts [#17]Why wouldn’t LANs in a different game transfer over? A LAN is a LAN, it’s the experience of being in person that matters
that has to be the worst take I have heard man, wtf
since_beta [#11]boaster has been around since m2 2021, just talking about experience valo, don't pull csgo on me
FNS has played 16 matches (39 maps) on LAN in Valorant. Boaster has played 12 matches (29 maps) so idk where you’re getting this idea.
idkbro [#15]boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashiesmini > chet
KEKW
idkbro [#15]boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashiesmini > chet
Mistic is not better than Marved lmfao, he’s underrated maybe but Marved is currently the best smokes player in the world
You’re on some crazy copium
idkbro [#15]boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashiesmini > chet
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Noodle [#20]FNS has played 16 matches (39 maps) on LAN in Valorant. Boaster has played 12 matches (29 maps) so idk where you’re getting this idea.
FNS- 17 actually
idkbro [#15]boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashiesmini > chet
not that it matters because val is a team game, but these are the only correct rankings
FNS>Boaster (FNS won a Masters and has been runner-up at berlin, Boaster only got to finals in the first masters when the game was newer)
Marved>Mistic (both are good, but marved's impact is so easy to see in comparison to mistic relying more on team to win, marved sometimes takes games into his own hands)
Alfa>Victor (Vic is a great player but Alfa is Just on another level)
Yay > Derke (Derke is a beast but has yet to really prove himself on LAN imo)
Enzo=Crashies (both good support players and aim is solid on both players)
Chet> minijake (Chet won a masters)
Optic would win 3-2 VS Fnatic imo, Optics map pool is insane
Will__ [#26]not that it matters because val is a team game, but these are the only correct rankings
FNS>Boaster (FNS won a Masters and has been runner-up at berlin, Boaster only got to finals in the first masters when the game was newer)
Marved>Mistic (both are good, but marved's impact is so easy to see in comparison to mistic relying more on team to win, marved sometimes takes games into his own hands)
Alfa>Victor (Vic is a great player but Alfa is Just on another level)
Yay > Derke (Derke is a beast but has yet to really prove himself on LAN imo)
Enzo=Crashies (both good support players and aim is solid on both players)
Chet> minijake (Chet won a masters)
Optic would win 3-2 VS Fnatic imo, Optics map pool is insane
Some corrections imo,
Viktor=Alfa
And Derke has already proven himself on LAN.
Other than this you're pretty much spot on
lorenzopajaroFC [#18]PERFORMING WELL AGAINST WORSE TEAMS??? YOU MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BEST TEAMS ITW???
Yeah Marved fucking owned against DRX PRX and Loud, but look at mistic go against FUCKING FOKUS
only loud is good from those 3, rest are dogshit and should have never been there, got lucky war literally happened in europe
Sprouts [#22]Mistic is not better than Marved lmfao, he’s underrated maybe but Marved is currently the best smokes player in the world
You’re on some crazy copium
nah, I just dont think marved is as good as people think atm, he is insane but for me mistic has always been a beast and he will show it, agree to disagree I guess
Will__ [#26]not that it matters because val is a team game, but these are the only correct rankings
FNS>Boaster (FNS won a Masters and has been runner-up at berlin, Boaster only got to finals in the first masters when the game was newer)
Marved>Mistic (both are good, but marved's impact is so easy to see in comparison to mistic relying more on team to win, marved sometimes takes games into his own hands)
Alfa>Victor (Vic is a great player but Alfa is Just on another level)
Yay > Derke (Derke is a beast but has yet to really prove himself on LAN imo)
Enzo=Crashies (both good support players and aim is solid on both players)
Chet> minijake (Chet won a masters)
Optic would win 3-2 VS Fnatic imo, Optics map pool is insane
what is this joke? how has derke not proven himself on lan? literally masterclass performance in champions, yay is one of the best itw but derke is in a league of his own, no1 is close to him imo
JustEnjoying [#28]Some corrections imo,
Viktor=Alfa
And Derke has already proven himself on LAN.Other than this you're pretty much spot on
alfa is way better than victor lol, tell me you dont watch EU without telling me you dont watch EU, like not even close, this is just disrespectful to alfa
egg80085 [#27]saw this in another thread but fnc probably wins a bo3 but optic win the bo5
Optic ain't winning no BO5 rofl. Fnatic can play every map except Breeze.
idkbro [#32]alfa is way better than victor lol, tell me you dont watch EU without telling me you dont watch EU, like not even close, this is just disrespectful to alfa
Nahhh they are pretty close
Verstepping33 [#16]Utility usage: Enzo> Crashies. Other fundamentals: Crashies>Frenzo
how? enzo is probably one of the best players fundamentally, he literally doesnt make mistakes, has the perfect style where it is steady and doesnt rely of his flicking, he reminds me of ropz is a sense (obviously ropz is better ik) but both dont really do mistakes
ColinTheGoat23 [#25]alfa and victor a lot closer than u think
is this a joke? alfajer easily a top5 player itw atm, victor not even top10
idkbro [#31]what is this joke? how has derke not proven himself on lan? literally masterclass performance in champions, yay is one of the best itw but derke is in a league of his own, no1 is close to him imo
sorry man but I disagree, Derke in form is crazy but I don't think he matches Yay's consistency. The worst series I've seen Yay have so far is against EG, and he only went -2. Derke has some games where he just gets completely shutdown imo
JustEnjoying [#34]Nahhh they are pretty close
bro, believe they are not, alfajer is on derke level, victor is a worse zeek, he is really good but alfajer is just worldclass
Will__ [#37]sorry man but I disagree, Derke in form is crazy but I don't think he matches Yay's consistency. The worst series I've seen Yay have so far is against EG, and he only went -2. Derke has some games where he just gets completely shutdown imo
one example of this would be against FPX in late march, Derke went -15, even boaster got more kills than him that series
Will__ [#37]sorry man but I disagree, Derke in form is crazy but I don't think he matches Yay's consistency. The worst series I've seen Yay have so far is against EG, and he only went -2. Derke has some games where he just gets completely shutdown imo
how? derke was top1 acs in champions, top3 acs in challenger 1 and now top2 challengers 2 acs, is thats not being consistent I dont what is, I would even argue derke is even more consistent, yay was kinda meh until playoffs in masters 1
55555555 [#6]I DIDNT KNOW THIS
its not your fault fearoth is way better than enzo idk why he changed
idkbro [#38]bro, believe they are not, alfajer is on derke level, victor is a worse zeek, he is really good but alfajer is just worldclass
I disagree man. Viktors pretty good. Both worldclass
idkbro [#15]boaster>fns
alfa>>>>victor
mistic>marved (sorry but mistic underrated af, also different roles, mistic isnt controller anymore, would still say mistic is better, marved kinda overhyped atm for performing well in some matches against worse teams, he was overperforming imo, mistic is consistently better)
derke>>yay
fearoth>>crashiesmini > chet
U can give tough competition to trembolona in being delusional
Will__ [#40]one example of this would be against FPX in late march, Derke went -15, even boaster got more kills than him that series
that doesnt prove inconsistency? its literally 1 bad series when your team got literally destroyed, not his fault, it was a bad team performance so obviously he wont get 300 acs, yay also has bad series
deathlyclaws [#45]U can give tough competition to trembolona in being delusional
he probably didnt even watch fnatic play
idkbro [#47]he probably didnt even watch fnatic play
oh the reply is to me, mb! marved can see the point on him being better than mistic I agree but the rest I think is pretty reasonable
idkbro [#46]that doesnt prove inconsistency? its literally 1 bad series when your team got literally destroyed, not his fault, it was a bad team performance so obviously he wont get 300 acs, yay also has bad series
Give me one series where Yay has gone -15 or more in 2022 and I'll say that you are right, but I doubt there is one because Yay always performs even if his team isn't there that day unlike Derke
Shownu [#33]Optic ain't winning no BO5 rofl. Fnatic can play every map except Breeze.
literally fnatic picking a different map each series, they dont care what map to play and these mfs think a team who is struggling in NA can beat this Fnatic
idkbro [#48]oh the reply is to me, mb! marved can see the point on him being better than mistic I agree but the rest I think is pretty reasonable
You are so lost in the sauce rn you don't even know who is replying to who. Take a breather man
JustEnjoying [#44]I disagree man. Viktors pretty good. Both worldclass
not as good tho, fans on vlr were literally shitting on victor and calling for him to be replaced until masters playoffs, he clearly isnt close to a guy who is top1 acs in the hardest region? victor is mid table in acs in a less competitive region, sorry but he is worldclass but just one more in the elite, alfajer is just the elite of the elite
JustEnjoying [#51]You are so lost in the sauce rn you don't even know who is replying to who. Take a breather man
XD ITS JUST HARD WHEN I HAVE TO SCROLL DOWN THIS MUCH
idkbro [#41]how? derke was top1 acs in champions, top3 acs in challenger 1 and now top2 challengers 2 acs, is thats not being consistent I dont what is, I would even argue derke is even more consistent, yay was kinda meh until playoffs in masters 1
bro, u need to get ur eyes checked, maybe ur brain too
Dr_DoofenshmirtZ [#54]bro, u need to get ur eyes checked, maybe ur brain too
why? yay was kinda meh thats a fact, he was consistently good but not spectacular, derke is consistently gigaspectacular
idkbro [#53]XD ITS JUST HARD WHEN I HAVE TO SCROLL DOWN THIS MUCH
That's why too much internet is bad
difficult question to answer, individually, optic win. but as a team, hell no. all these comments comparing the wrong things.
boaster=fns
mistic<marved
derke=yay
alfajer>victor
enzo=<crashies (could go either way)
on paper it looks equal but we are not comparing individuals we are comparing teams and right now i have no doubt FNC take the W.
idkbro [#29]only loud is good from those 3, rest are dogshit and should have never been there, got lucky war literally happened in europe
usual cope
also yay washes derke on his worst days
Will__ [#49]Give me one series where Yay has gone -15 or more in 2022 and I'll say that you are right, but I doubt there is one because Yay always performs even if his team isn't there that day unlike Derke
not comparable, fnatic literally got 13-0d in 1 map, literally destroyed by fpx, optic hasnt gotten destroyed like that so far in 2022, also if you didnt know 1 bad series isnt a proof of inconsistentcy, derke still topfrags 90% of the time
idkbro [#29]only loud is good from those 3, rest are dogshit and should have never been there, got lucky war literally happened in europe
Bro it can get annoying when NA starts hyping up their teams and all, but at least they don’t take themselves as serious as europeans do
idkbro [#52]not as good tho, fans on vlr were literally shitting on victor and calling for him to be replaced until masters playoffs, he clearly isnt close to a guy who is top1 acs in the hardest region? victor is mid table in acs in a less competitive region, sorry but he is worldclass but just one more in the elite, alfajer is just the elite of the elite
yeah acs is the best way to determine how good a player is, victors role definitely relies on his acs to have impact
idkbro [#55]why? yay was kinda meh thats a fact, he was consistently good but not spectacular, derke is consistently gigaspectacular
delusional derke fanboy
asdfval [#58]usual cope
also yay washes derke on his worst days
cope? how are drx and prx good? would they beat guild, full strenght fnatic, fpx or m3c? also no1 expected shit from them, they got nothing to lose, now they have expectations, people will expect them to do well this masters, I dont think they will perform that well without having nothing to lose anymore (talking about prx), drx is just bad atm they need roster changes and coaching staff that can make them play a more sustainable branch of valorant
idkbro [#59]not comparable, fnatic literally got 13-0d in 1 map, literally destroyed by fpx, optic hasnt gotten destroyed like that so far in 2022, also if you didnt know 1 bad series isnt a proof of inconsistentcy, derke still topfrags 90% of the time
yeah not comparable because yay is better, yay would never let his team get 13-0d his impact is too much to allow that to happen
idkbro [#63]cope? how are drx and prx good? would they beat guild, full strenght fnatic, fpx or m3c? also no1 expected shit from them, they got nothing to lose, now they have expectations, people will expect them to do well this masters, I dont think they will perform that well without having nothing to lose anymore (talking about prx), drx is just bad atm they need roster changes and coaching staff that can make them play a more sustainable branch of valorant
bro you spend too much time on this website
asdfval [#61]yeah acs is the best way to determine how good a player is, victors role definitely relies on his acs to have impact
yeah EU best region with 6th as their highest placed finish at the last masters, despite being the only region with 3 slots.
lorenzopajaroFC [#60]Bro it can get annoying when NA starts hyping up their teams and all, but at least they don’t take themselves as serious as europeans do
because NA know its just hyping up nothing else they do it for fun, I actually think that and I think most high level players in EU do, many said it too, Optic literally didnt have a challenge apart from Loud, maybe too much ego but I think last masters was just unlucky circustances and the gap is still big comparing EMEA to other regions, like, I see FPX, Fnatic and Guild, you cant tell me optic who won masters are better than them, I would even bet LAN m3c or Acend would beat Optic
asdfval [#65]bro you spend too much time on this website
you got almost 600 posts since january so probably not as much as you do lol
Will__ [#64]yeah not comparable because yay is better, yay would never let his team get 13-0d his impact is too much to allow that to happen
ok you are baiting good bye
idkbro [#68]you got almost 600 posts since january so probably not as much as you do lol
you have been posting for 2 hours straight, stand up, stretch, go outside and breath
asdfval [#62]delusional derke fanboy
yes, im very delusional, just check the facts, best player statiscally
asdfval [#70]you have been posting for 2 hours straight, stand up, stretch, go outside and breath
its literally 10 pm, I am just chilling watching valorant and hanging in vlr, even then I dont have 600 posts in half a year, you cant tell others that they spent too much time on this website
deathlyclaws [#42]boaster<fns(fns real Indian pride)
alfa>>>victor
mistic<<marved
derke~yay
fearoth<<<crashies(no way u guys once again underestimate crashies)
enzo getting slept on? he will show you in masters
idkbro [#73]its literally 10 pm, I am just chilling watching valorant and hanging in vlr, even then I dont have 600 posts in half a year, you cant tell others that they spent too much time on this website
600 posts in 6 months really isnt that much, youre gonna spend all night on vlr.gg bc u have no job to wake up to
HaSanity [#57]difficult question to answer, individually, optic win. but as a team, hell no. all these comments comparing the wrong things.
boaster=fns
mistic<marved
derke=yay
alfajer>victor
enzo=<crashies (could go either way)on paper it looks equal but we are not comparing individuals we are comparing teams and right now i have no doubt FNC take the W.
Honestly I think Fnatic wins individually, alfajer derke and enzo better than victor, yay and crashies + individually boaster is better than fns and mistic is more or less on par with marved
idkbro [#71]yes, im very delusional, just check the facts, best player statiscally
statistically, perc30fishfillet and babybay are both better than derke
asdfval [#77]statistically, perc30fishfillet and babybay are both better than derke
are you stupid? I am talking about vct stats, not open qualifiers lol, in vct this stage babybay 255 acs, derke almost 280 acs in a tougher region, also are you not intelligent enough to understand you cant compare stats from perc30fishfillet who I dont even know and must be playing tier5 NA and a guy that plays at the highest level? if derke played open qualifiers like babybay his stats would be inflated too, would probably have 400 acs or something
idkbro [#78]are you stupid? I am talking about vct stats, not open qualifiers lol, in vct this stage babybay 255 acs, derke almost 280 acs in a tougher region, also are you not intelligent enough to understand you cant compare stats from perc30fishfillet who I dont even know and must be playing tier5 NA and a guy that plays at the highest level? if derke played open qualifiers like babybay his stats would be inflated too, would probably have 400 acs or something
i think you are not intelligent enough to understand acs means jack shit for the players you are comparing, derke and yay play two completely different roles (yay being better at his role and having more impact ofc) two people playing the same agent doesnt mean they play the same way
idkbro [#69]ok you are baiting good bye
hes right though, yay has single handedly stopped it from happening multiple times
asdfval [#79]i think you are not intelligent enough to understand acs means jack shit for the players you are comparing, derke and yay play two completely different roles (yay being better at his role and having more impact ofc) two people playing the same agent doesnt mean they play the same way
thats literally so stupid, its the best comparison we can make, both are the star players of their teams and play the same agent, its literally valorant this is not cs where roles are so different in each team, the positions you play will be 90% of the times the sames as other playes playing the same agent you are, you are so dumb for thinking them not having the each same role doesnt make them comparable, following your logic we cant compare any player itw unless they do the exact same, thats so stupid, yekindar and rain play the same role but not 100% there are some differences like derke and yay but still we can 100% compare them, YOU ARE SO STUPID
Will__ [#26]not that it matters because val is a team game, but these are the only correct rankings
FNS>Boaster (FNS won a Masters and has been runner-up at berlin, Boaster only got to finals in the first masters when the game was newer)
Marved>Mistic (both are good, but marved's impact is so easy to see in comparison to mistic relying more on team to win, marved sometimes takes games into his own hands)
Alfa>Victor (Vic is a great player but Alfa is Just on another level)
Yay > Derke (Derke is a beast but has yet to really prove himself on LAN imo)
Enzo=Crashies (both good support players and aim is solid on both players)
Chet> minijake (Chet won a masters)
Optic would win 3-2 VS Fnatic imo, Optics map pool is insane
yay has never beaten an emea team
idkbro [#81]thats literally so stupid, its the best comparison we can make, both are the star players of their teams and play the same agent, its literally valorant this is not cs where roles are so different in each team, the positions you play will be 90% of the times the sames as other playes playing the same agent you are, you are so dumb for thinking them not having the each same role doesnt make them comparable, following your logic we cant compare any player itw unless they do the exact same, thats so stupid, yekindar and rain play the same role but not 100% there are some differences like derke and yay but still we can 100% compare them, YOU ARE SO STUPID
you clearly dont even watch them play. yay and derke don't play anywhere near close enough to compare, its like comparing marved and zander, sure they play the same roles but they play completely differently and have entirely separate roles in their teams
you are the stupid one, my irl life lacking friend
asdfval [#84]you clearly dont even watch them play. yay and derke don't play anywhere near close enough to compare, its like comparing marved and zander, sure they play the same roles but they play completely differently and have entirely separate roles in their teams
you are the stupid one, my irl life lacking friend
nice retard logic, by your logic we cant compare anything, derke and yay play the same agent which is chamber which is fucking broken and you 100% need to get tons of impact, derke gets way more impact, better player, simple as that, dont care if they play different positions, one is more aggressive one is playing more passive with it, idc, its not a big difference, by your logic we cant compare device and s1mple which is stupid, maybe yay should learn from derke since he gets way more impact in the same/similar role :), fucking retard
idkbro [#87]nice retard logic, by your logic we cant compare anything, derke and yay play the same agent which is chamber which is fucking broken and you 100% need to get tons of impact, derke gets way more impact, better player, simple as that, dont care if they play different positions, one is more aggressive one is playing more passive with it, idc, its not a big difference, by your logic we cant compare device and s1mple which is stupid, maybe yay should learn from derke since he gets way more impact in the same/similar role :), fucking retard
i can tell you are not a very high rank, nor do you really pay much attention to pro play, so im just gonna end this here
asdfval [#88]i can tell you are not a very high rank, nor do you really pay much attention to pro play, so im just gonna end this here
you are actually clueless lmao also I am higher ranked than you ever will probably, you are probably diamond and thinks thats good fucking dog, btw you need to at least have some idea about the game even if you are dogshit at it to talk about it, saying you cant compare yay and derke because they have very different roles is retarded, you probably are just saying this because you think you have a good idea about the game and want to be different with some stupid opinion to feel inteligent but in reality you are a retard who doesnt know more than platchat dogs
idkbro [#89]you are actually clueless lmao also I am higher ranked than you ever will probably, you are probably diamond and thinks thats good fucking dog, btw you need to at least have some idea about the game even if you are dogshit at it to talk about it, saying you cant compare yay and derke because they have very different roles is retarded, you probably are just saying this because you think you have a good idea about the game and want to be different with some stupid opinion to feel inteligent but in reality you are a retard who doesnt know more than platchat dogs
diamond? bro i solo q to immortal in 3 days on fresh accounts effortlessly, im in immortal on my main and i play the game at most once a week
post ur tracker low elo brainlet, keep yapping about acs while lower acs players shit on ur favorite teams
idkbro [#67]because NA know its just hyping up nothing else they do it for fun, I actually think that and I think most high level players in EU do, many said it too, Optic literally didnt have a challenge apart from Loud, maybe too much ego but I think last masters was just unlucky circustances and the gap is still big comparing EMEA to other regions, like, I see FPX, Fnatic and Guild, you cant tell me optic who won masters are better than them, I would even bet LAN m3c or Acend would beat Optic
This is unreal...
YouDii [#86]Fnatic honeymoon phases always do look strong.
Why did I get downvoted for this? I'm literally complimenting them lmao
ChrisPewPew [#39]boaster = fns
Alfaje r>> Victor
Derke > Yay ( if you llok at his stats derke has been way better than tenz in his prime)
Mistic < Marved
Fearoth > Crashies
i'd argue crashies is better but other than that yes
idkbro [#50]literally fnatic picking a different map each series, they dont care what map to play and these mfs think a team who is struggling in NA can beat this Fnatic
Don't judge them until playoffs, they've burned fans before
zardinez [#98]Don't judge them until playoffs, they've burned fans before
True, lets if they can play good off fundamentals and have some depth this time once their gimmicks get figured out but honestly I think this is the strongest fnatic ever, enzo + boaster igl duo too op and derke/alfajer is perfect for this meta
Revlo [#97]Fnatic dominating a washed shit region. If even EG was in EMEA they'd look like prime astralis.
Emea > Na
kristof [#95]is that even a question?
Optic just got exposed by some tier 4 shitters yesterday
EG will wreck a top EMEA team
since_beta [#19]that has to be the worst take I have heard man, wtf
You're in denial, man. Seek help. He give u a straight fact and u just spit on it. lol
since_beta [#19]that has to be the worst take I have heard man, wtf
A LAN is A LAN. the comebacks on valorant's LAN is due to experience. Optic came back vs Guard because their leader had been there before. 100t came back vs acend because their players had been in that situation before, performing under LAN's pressure and
JustEnjoying [#14]Crashies is better than Enzo, I feel like. And so is FNS is better than boaster in IGLing. Also viktor maybe inconsistent sometimes but that doesn't mean, he is less better than alfa.
Tbh these types of comparisons are useless. You can't know how top teams for diff regions look like against each other without actually seeing them play.
Fnatic do be lookin nice tho
I would put Alfajer over victor seeing him twice because of how much of a difference maker he is. Not saying Victor can't be, but he is inconsistent like you said
idkbro [#29]only loud is good from those 3, rest are dogshit and should have never been there, got lucky war literally happened in europe
PRX sat on G2, which was the team that beat FNC with Mistic on it.
DRX is the best team i think strat wise. i would explain how they play since clearly you haven't seen them played before if you say they were bad, but seeing how braindead this take is, i wont waste my time
deathlyclaws [#42]boaster<fns(fns real Indian pride)
alfa>>>victor
mistic<<marved
derke~yay
fearoth<<<crashies(no way u guys once again underestimate crashies)
FINALLY LOVE TO CRASHIES. The guy is SOOOOOO UNDERRATED it's painful to see Enzo (a good player) put ahead of him
Flamephoenix [#110]fns > boaster. boaster better mechanics fns better igl
vic < alfa
marved >>>>> mistic
yay > derke
crashies >> fearothoptic own, call me when fnatic make it to GFs twice and have a title 🥱🥱
Derke > 100x yay
Zoners [#111]Derke > 100x yay
yay 1 world title, 1 world mvp, 2 grand final appearances
derke 0 word titles, 0 word mvps, 1 grand final appearance
Flamephoenix [#113]yay 1 world title, 1 world mvp, 2 grand final appearances
derke 0 word titles, 0 word mvps, 1 grand final appearance
masters ≠ world title
Will__ [#66]yeah EU best region with 6th as their highest placed finish at the last masters, despite being the only region with 3 slots.
want me to remind u about champioms whem there wasnt a war in europe?
Flamephoenix [#113]yay 1 world title, 1 world mvp, 2 grand final appearances
derke 0 word titles, 0 word mvps, 1 grand final appearance
champions is world lol, but clearly NA teams were too shit to advance into playoffs except C9 which was knocked out the next day
NightBeam [#43]its not your fault fearoth is way better than enzo idk why he changed
enzo coming up with that redbull clutchhhhhhhhhh.
a massive whiff by fearoth, fnc lose the round.....
idk the first one sounds better to me :)
JustEnjoying [#14]Crashies is better than Enzo, I feel like. And so is FNS is better than boaster in IGLing. Also viktor maybe inconsistent sometimes but that doesn't mean, he is less better than alfa.
Tbh these types of comparisons are useless. You can't know how top teams for diff regions look like against each other without actually seeing them play.
Fnatic do be lookin nice tho
agree with what you said at last but, crashies and enzo cant be compared same with fns and boaster , unless we have a real match happen in between the teams. but crashies is no where near alfa, people are talking about alfa reaching top 5 in the world after some more time(probably a year) and victor isnt anywhere near that. sure victor is good but when comparing one on one alfa takes the dub
asdfval [#58]usual cope
also yay washes derke on his worst days
derke score twice your igl on his worst day. on his good day the entire of optic acs will still be less than GoDerke
Sprouts [#22]Mistic is not better than Marved lmfao, he’s underrated maybe but Marved is currently the best smokes player in the world
You’re on some crazy copium
can agree, this means in a match anyone of those 2 can perform better
Will__ [#26]not that it matters because val is a team game, but these are the only correct rankings
FNS>Boaster (FNS won a Masters and has been runner-up at berlin, Boaster only got to finals in the first masters when the game was newer)
Marved>Mistic (both are good, but marved's impact is so easy to see in comparison to mistic relying more on team to win, marved sometimes takes games into his own hands)
Alfa>Victor (Vic is a great player but Alfa is Just on another level)
Yay > Derke (Derke is a beast but has yet to really prove himself on LAN imo)
Enzo=Crashies (both good support players and aim is solid on both players)
Chet> minijake (Chet won a masters)
Optic would win 3-2 VS Fnatic imo, Optics map pool is insane
ok boaster reached finals when the game was new totally agree. but fns literally won a trophy when the best region in the world wasnt there to compete that means that victory cant be taken in the same regards. if you actually believe in your point then you have to agree that optic won an easier tournament
JustEnjoying [#44]I disagree man. Viktors pretty good. Both worldclass
alfa on one hand is the best player in the entire region(stat wise impact rating and acs) and victor on the other hand struggles to even get top 3 on his own team
Will__ [#40]one example of this would be against FPX in late march, Derke went -15, even boaster got more kills than him that series
that was his only underperformance this entire year and that was because he wasnt used to chamber , it was his first time. he was still the #2 on his team for the series and that low performance was specifically on ascent where they lost 13-4
asdfval [#77]statistically, perc30fishfillet and babybay are both better than derke
i need the shit you are smoking before looking at the stats
Will__ [#66]yeah EU best region with 6th as their highest placed finish at the last masters, despite being the only region with 3 slots.
just wait till you see another emea vs emea finals this master , you fuckin moron
HaSanity [#57]difficult question to answer, individually, optic win. but as a team, hell no. all these comments comparing the wrong things.
boaster=fns
mistic<marved
derke=yay
alfajer>victor
enzo=<crashies (could go either way)on paper it looks equal but we are not comparing individuals we are comparing teams and right now i have no doubt FNC take the W.
finally a sane take on this shit website
YouDii [#86]Fnatic honeymoon phases always do look strong.
just like the one they will have once they beat optic and lift both trophies this year with your mum
symbols07 [#127]just wait till you see another emea vs emea finals this master , you fuckin moron
stay mad
symbols07 [#126]i need the shit you are smoking before looking at the stats
past 60 days, perc30fishfilet has 313 acs, babybay has 288, and derke is at 278
idk what drugs it takes to think 278 is higher than 288 or 313 but it seems i need the shit you're smoking
TwinFM [#116]champions is world lol, but clearly NA teams were too shit to advance into playoffs except C9 which was knocked out the next day
better than bronzil that didnt make it out of groups until riot felt pity for the tier 3 region and gave them an instant slot into playoffs 💀💀💀. how do you talk when u go out dead last in masters 2 and 3, winning matches only with exploits LUL. trash bronzil
Flamephoenix [#132]better than bronzil that didnt make it out of groups until riot felt pity for the tier 3 region and gave them an instant slot into playoffs 💀💀💀. how do you talk when u go out dead last in masters 2 and 3, winning matches only with exploits LUL. trash bronzil
NIP winning against leviatan, made Loud To playoffs actually, if leviatan had won it would have been KRU, also loud made it to finals actually.
since_beta [#11]boaster has been around since m2 2021, just talking about experience valo, don't pull csgo on me
And FNS has been here since the beginning of competitive Valorant in 2020
Valgod [#12]How is he clearly better
FNS reads other teams like a book and coordinates his team to optimize their skills. Boaster is a good individual player and an alright igl but if we're talking about just pure igl, he can't compare to FNS
idkbro [#50]literally fnatic picking a different map each series, they dont care what map to play and these mfs think a team who is struggling in NA can beat this Fnatic
A team struggling in NA? You clearly know nothing, everything I needed to know about your bias trash opinion
TwinFM [#116]champions is world lol, but clearly NA teams were too shit to advance into playoffs except C9 which was knocked out the next day
Ironic considering how many EU teams made it past groups last masters
symbols07 [#117]enzo coming up with that redbull clutchhhhhhhhhh.
a massive whiff by fearoth, fnc lose the round.....
idk the first one sounds better to me :)
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